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Eike goes quiet as she considers that, and though she doesn't ask you any further questions, you do notice a few books on theology intermixed with her reading materials over the coming weeks. There's a fair bit that you know and a great deal that you suspect that you haven't outright said, and you can tell that she can tell that those unspoken words are floating overhead, unseen but not unfelt. The lure of those secrets are a strong lure for any Grey Wizard worthy of the title, and you've no doubt that in proving herself worthy of those secrets, she'll uncover ones equal to or greater than them.

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unseen but not unfelt
Motto reference! Seen and felt.
According to a Dragon I discussed the matter with, the Chaos Gods did have dominance over this world for a very long time, and the Shartak - usually called 'Dragon Ogres' - and Fimir are remnants from that era.
Regardless of if Eike realizes this might actually be Deathfang rather than the more familiar and local dragon, I imagine EikeQuest will be fiercely debating whether or not to talk to Cython about theology. She surely must know of their interest in the subject, but for an apprentice, it equally must be a major decision whether to match wits with an Ice Dragon. I presume most of that negaverse is assuming that Mathilde meant Cython, but there's a small minority that holds that she meant Deathfang because of the expedition.
well mr eltharion, allow me to introduce u to the greatest Anti-Greenskin tower on the continent, and it's operator :evil2:
Meet Wolf, my doggo.

I also very much appreciate the reverse-xenofiction of the Eonir's views of the mundane (owls) and not-so-mundane (New York viewed as tooth-and-claw).

As for this Batman Eltharion character, I'm not too worried. We have our own Batcave, Batcopter, and megacorp, after all.
 
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Pretty sure that was decades ago.
Probably less than four I'd guess. He fights Grom in 2425, then spends some years fixing up Yvresse, and then an unknown mount of time actually fighting Greenskins in the Badlands.

If this was a mission interested in soft diplomacy, they wouldn't be sending Eltharion.

Unless he's coming as a favor to Teclis by-way-of-Tyrion, which is certainly possible.
That would be my guess. We know Teclis has noticed the project and has been making moves that will apparently piss off a lot of other Elves. Worst case scenario I can see here is that someone is looking to sabotage negotiations so that they can reasonably be said to have failed, instead of skipping them and going to threats.

Or he could go another way and look to join. Which frankly we would have to gouge him for everything we can get. At least 2 members of the project would dislike working with Ulthuan.
He doesn't have much to gouge. Eltharion isn't a trained wizard himself, and while he can put some political pressure out, Yvresse is not among the more powerful of Ulthuan's Kingdoms.

It is hitting me again how seriously the Emperor is treating this, jumping immediately to the fastest "get over here right now" possible by just posting in Azyr Global Chat and hoping Hubert will see it right away and pass it along.
There is, I suspect a lot of interest in Ulthuani diplomacy among the Imperial Court right now anyway, even outside of the uses tot eh Waystone Project.

But that last bit really takes the cake. For a moment there I confused Imrik with Eltharion in my head, so I just sort of swore at the nonsense that would happen, but Eltharion is more reasonable
I'd actually say Imrik is more reasonable in some ways. He's probably less likely to go "here's the price, take it or walk" than I suspect Eltharion will be for one. And for another, he's less likely to be rude if he actually respects Mathilde. He's probably quite similar to Asarnil I suspect, but perhaps a little more savvy about politics. The problem with Imrik would be getting through to him that Mathilde is someone to respect in the first place.
 
She goes quiet as she thinks about that for a while. "I like Her," she says simply. "I did for the reasons most do when I was a child. And now because the things She does, and that Her people do, are good in a simple and straightforward way. The things we do are good in a complicated way. It's refreshing."

You nod. There's a lot of different ways Grey Wizards make peace with the morass of grey areas and lesser evils that the Order is often forced to operate within, and patronizing the Cult of Shallya is probably one of the healthier ways you've heard of. "So you're more of an admirer of Shallyans than a Shallyan yourself?"
Huh that's pretty neat Elkie seemed to be more devout and faithful in Shallyan initially but I think she understands she can't be a proper Shallyan given the bloody work she'll have to do as a Gray Wizard. But that doesn't mean she can't do good or help others do good.

"I don't make much of a secret that I have a good relationship with Ranald," you say, with an amused little smile at your understatement. "Much of what I do is aligned with His interests, and as a youth it struck me as only sensible to act in accordance with Him and receive His aid, than do so in spite of Him and hope for no worse than His indifference."
Mathilde best buddy and prime entertainment of Ranald and as a child decided that having a God in her corner for doing stuff she'd already would do is a smart idea.

It's a fair question. "My life would certainly have been simpler without Him, but I wouldn't say it would have been easier. I think Volans was right to have imposed an officially irreligious stance on the Colleges, but I think that there's a lot of Wizards for whom it makes sense to reach their own individual accords with the Gods. If you can square your duties as a Grey Wizard with the desires and affinities of Shallya, or with any other God you feel compatible with, then I think that it can be a useful relationship to pursue further."
Yeah not giving the Colleges an official faith is the right choice, Mathilde's take on Religion on Wizard seems pretty good.

She's quiet for a long time, and you turn most of your attention back to your reading as she digests that. "You've researched the Gods a fair bit, haven't you?"

"That might be overstating the matter, but yes, I've done some reading and discussing on the matter."
Mathilde out here having heretical talks with Cython, ability to sense Divine Energy, knowledge of souls from Dwarves and Necromancy, and once had the opportunity to study the fingerprints of gods.

All of these wonders are beyond the reach of the Cityborn, and for once it is the richest and most influential of them that are feeling the bite the keenest, as they are the ones most jaded and starved for novelty. This tension could be addressed by granting diplomatic sinecures to those with the influence to request them, allowing the rich and powerful the privilege of travel with a mumbled explanation about deepening diplomatic ties between the Eonir and their new allies. That this hasn't happened probably indicates that this disquiet is being cultivated, the pressure being contained and allowed to build. If done carelessly this would eventually lead to an explosion, but this sort of pressure can be a very useful motive force if properly harnessed. Eonir society seems like it is set to undergo several major changes in the coming decades, and in each of them the hand of the Queen seems to be at work, moulding the eventual shape of the society to come.
Didn't expect the Tourism interest to be that strong but given the explications it makes a lot of sense.

Most people are unaware that in times of great need, there are other, more arcane ways to send the most urgent of messages. Your first indication that this has occurred is when Hubert alights on your balcony one day, carrying news that had been emblazoned upon the sky itself for those with the eyes to see it. The bulk of the message he relays to you vocally - that the Asur had sent a delegate to discuss a matter with the Colleges of Magic, and that it would be appreciated if you could make yourself present to handle the matter as soon as reasonably possible. The rest was enciphered, as is reasonable when the night sky is to be your notice board, and you try a few intermediate ciphers before you manage to tease out the remainder of the message, which consists of the identity of the Elf in question. Not Teclis, unfortunately, nor any of the other very few living Asur you know the names of offhand. You can only hope, as you signal for your Gyrocarriage, that this 'Prince Eltharion of Yvresse' is a reasonable sort of Elf.
Magic message in the sky is very cool. Also I'm guessing this dude is pretty important.

Prince Eltharion is known as "The Grim", after his entire family and most of his people were slaughtered by Grom the Paunch.

He is mainly known for his immense hatred of Greenskins and being completely humourless and serious at all times. When he appears in the Defenders of Ulthuan/Sons of Ellyrion novels (which Boney may or may not be using) he is depicted as blunt to the point of rudeness, treating any strangers with constant suspicion and barely giving once-close acquaintances so much as the time of day.
He'll be positively disposed to Mathilde due to her writing Waagh and Peace, killing a Waagh and helping reconquering land from Greenskins. Sure there is the element of human pocking at stuff she shouldn't but murder blender recognizes murder blender.

Dude is basically a dwarf, we should be fine.
..... I know that this is meant primarily as a joke but I actually think this is true.

Kinda hard to tell how he'll feel about the whole thing. He's definitely a bit dour, but he was also central to preventing Grom from sinking Ulthuan through destroying the Tor Yvresse waystone and has a lot of experience with repairing the network from the aftermath of that. Hopefully he'll see the value of what we're doing here.
Dude can respect the need to murder bad guys and can likely tell that Mathilde is doing this project with good intentions, but there is also the question of who sent him here and what's his motive for coming.

I guess he read our anti Waaagh magic paper.
I mean the Usur did have a person at the lecture and it's the kind of stuff he'd read up on. So yeah he likely read the paper/lecture.

If this was a mission interested in soft diplomacy, they wouldn't be sending Eltharion.

Unless he's coming as a favor to Teclis by-way-of-Tyrion, which is certainly possible.
Hadn't thought of that but it is a likely options especially given Teclis's commentary about who he was going to send letters that would piss a lot of people off.

I imagine our "used a god-enhanced Burning Shadows to slay half a million greenskins in an instant" credentials would probably earn us some measure of respect.

...come to think of it, we do have some pretty hefty anti-greenskins accolades, don't we?

Assassinated three(?) Warbosses in a day. Assassinated the head of the Crooked Moon goblins by shooting him through his Warpstone teeth and out the back of his throat, throwing his entire tribe into infighting so that they could be slaughtered by some very angry dwarves. And Waaagh and Peace, which might be of intense interest to him in particular, since it's basically a cheat sheet for how to best fuck with Greenskin magic (and Ulthuan doesn't usually fight greenskins).
Mathilde has at least earned a bit of respect from him due to Greenskin murder and opposition.

I looked Eltharion up on the Warhammer wiki, and there was a very interesting and potentially relevant few lines in his history.



The man has messed with Waystones before and successfully repaired them.

Instead of a "don't do that" finger-wagger, Teclis may have sent us their most experienced Waystone repairman!
I did not know that, I mean he's likely not their best guy but he's probably the best guy who isn't currently stuck in AP hell.

"Mathilde, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
― Prince Eltharion of Yvresse... Probably
Seeing his reaction to Mathilde will be neat.

It is hitting me again how seriously the Emperor is treating this, jumping immediately to the fastest "get over here right now" possible by just posting in Azyr Global Chat and hoping Hubert will see it right away and pass it along.
Emperor is so stressed that poor poor man.
 
Really liked the elfcation segment, Boney. Thanks for the good work.
I've never been happier we picked elves for this segment of the story, honestly.
well mr eltharion, allow me to introduce u to the greatest Anti-Greenskin tower on the continent, and it's operator
Eltharion: "This appears to be a dog."
Mathilde: "Yes, who's a good boy, who's a good boy, yes you are! ... What were we talking about?"
 
I presume most of that negaverse is assuming that Mathilde meant Cython, but there's a small minority that holds that she meant Deathfang because of the expedition.
Good question. According to a Dragon I discussed the matter with, the Chaos Gods did have dominance over this world for a very long time,

Those Dragons consider those that we know of in the Old World, the ones that allow themselves to be bound to a Wind like our neighbour is to Hysh, to have betrayed their nature as nomads between worlds.
Mathilde refers to Cython as "our neighbour" later in the conversation.
But finding out the other dragon is almost certainly Deathfang is a trivial exercise.

How many dragons could Mathilde have spent enough time with to have deep discussions with?
Her relationship with Asarnil and Deathfang is known: she published a Asarnil's memoir, and just went on the worst road trip with them.
 
I don't know the canon, but I do know dramatic irony, so I assume that ending on this line is meant to make lore-knowledgeable people wince and go "ooooooooh."
I'm gonna buck the trend and say "mildly positive" in that Eltharion is meant to be a Token Reasonable Elf even in later canon so there's probably not horrendous shit tacked on him.
I'd actually say Imrik is more reasonable in some ways. He's probably less likely to go "here's the price, take it or walk" than I suspect Eltharion will be for one. And for another, he's less likely to be rude if he actually respects Mathilde. He's probably quite similar to Asarnil I suspect, but perhaps a little more savvy about politics. The problem with Imrik would be getting through to him that Mathilde is someone to respect in the first place.
HIgh Elf Diplomat Roll (Not Bretonnia): 1

-They sent Imrik

High Elf Diplomat Roll (Bretonnia): 100

-They sent Imrik
 
It's really beautiful to see how the insular Eonir suddenly are getting interested in the Empire. If we're lucky we might see an entire upheaval of their culture and turn them prone to travel.
 
Okay everyone else justifiably freaking out over elf step-uncle/Batman visiting, but I really loved the tourism bits! It's great seeing the Eonir perspective on stuff humans would take for granted, like an actual natural (well kinda) forest!

This means that the Cityborn are not in a position to do any travel, as very little of the Empire can be reached, appreciated, and returned from within a single day.
I am getting "foreign tourists being shocked they can't visit the Grand Canyon and Statue of Liberty in one day" vibes.
Under the name Taal, this Forestborn says, Kurnous rules over a forest at least ten times larger than that of Chrace, and they believe that a deeper communion with Kurnous is possible there than anywhere within Laurelorn.
Ohhhh I'm gonna be generous and say thus guy is legit, but isn't a coinkidink that a recently demoted god has followers who just so happened to come up with a 'religious pilgrimage exemption' to that pesky Cityborn restriction on travel.
 
Honestly, even aside from the elves and their reactions to the traveling, I'm amuse by Mathilde's listening to them. I can totally imagine her just casually lurking in the background of some gathering or the other listening to these overexaggerated stories of stuff her knows so well and struggling not to laugh. Meanwhile the elves would probably be glancing at her the whole time trying to catch some hint as to how accurate they are.
 
The asur have no way of knowing that the project depends on Mathilde being a trusted middlewoman to work with, so an argument against dissolving the project might be 'what can Uluthan pay each of the non-empire particpants to all stop working on this?'
TBH I think the project depending on mathilde being a trusted middleman to work with back when it was a longshot. Now that we're probably within sight of working jerry-rigged waystones, and the biggest would be "needs mathilde as a trusted middleman" has also already established a bunch of economic ties with the other party they'd have the biggest problem with, without mathilde the project would be noticeably TENSER but still still probably capable of going ahead.
 
@Boney thank you for the update. It was wonderful to see Mathilde's tutoring of Eike in subjects she seemed interested in, an examination of the Elven perspective on the Empire, and most importantly, I'm very much looking forward to seeing your interpretation of Eltharion within quest canon.
 
TBH I think the project depending on mathilde being a trusted middleman to work with back when it was a longshot. Now that we're probably within sight of working jerry-rigged waystones, and the biggest would be "needs mathilde as a trusted middleman" has also already established a bunch of economic ties with the other party they'd have the biggest problem with, without mathilde the project would be noticeably TENSER but still still probably capable of going ahead.
I'm not so certain. Mathilde has thrown some figurative weight around in order to get people to let go of their secrets. I'm not even certain that their respective polities would push hard enough to get this project through, as we're pretty much the driving force behind this project.
 
It has to be annoying to live in a forest where every damn owl constantly bombarding you with mystic wisdom and/or quests.
An Owl that just goes "Hoot" probably comes of as really relaxing.
 
I love the image of some elves in a mystical forest loosing their minds at an owl that goes hoot, no riddles, no prophecies or deep secrets, it just goes hoot.
I love the image of some elves staring at the owl hooting for hours until they realise its not actually intelligent.
Getting asked "Who?" repeatedly as they continually attempt to break down their own identity sufficiently to satisfy the owl until some peasant comes over to see what they're doing.
 
Yvresse has a deep, special connection to the Waystones of Ulthuan. There is a reason Grom invaded it, and it was because his head shaman, Blacktooth, believed he could manipulate the waystones of the land to his benefit, in the process almost sinking Ulthuan beneath the waves.

Given that, I suspect that Eltharion is not here for pleasantries, but to find out if we're a new Blacktooth and to kill us and every other member of the waystone project if he thinks we pose a similar threat to Ulthuan. He is single mindedly devoted to the preservation of his home, after all.
 
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