He's an honorary Grey for doing that to his name. Clearly the reason he survived so long is that no plan of attack could get past the planning stage.
If I knew something about CSS, I'd write an extension to scramble his name in the threadmarks too.
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If I knew something about CSS, I'd write an extension to scramble his name in the threadmarks too.
NavySeel
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Clearly all of the names are his, and each time a new one is used he grows in power.
Tasoli
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To me it looks like somebody put a curse on Alcatraz's name so he is not remembered in the histories.
And a weaponized meme is Grey Collage idiom. Perhaps they are trying to erase the concept of Black Collage this way or something.
Huh, the Grey's would be the ones to have a damnatio memoriae spell.
Mopman43
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Al-Kharid is lucky he's not trying to make his name in Araby, it'd really mess with his mystique.
So his name is literally The Shit?
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As much as I would love for that to be the case, I did leave out the fact that the pronounciation is also a factor. الخراد could be bastardised into الخرة, which would literally mean that, but if his name is pronounced الكراد, then it would be far removed enough that it wouldn't be a logical inference unless someone misremembered his name. Unfortunately English can't really tell the difference between ك and خ.
I actually wanted to say this in my original post, but explaining it would ruin the joke. But then again, I think this thread is especially predisposed to liking linguistic nerdistry.
Someone misremembering his name is indeed an unlikely possibility.
So I tried to use Google Translate to get an idea of the pronunciation, and it told me the first is Scraps, the second is Hell, and final one... The Kurds? That seems wrong?
Is it correct that the first and second have an oh sound (in english) at the end? I do enjoy the idea that his name actually sounds like Alkarado.
deathofrats0808
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I mean, you're joking, but probably. Nehek was the guy who founded Khemri, which was Settra's city.
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Google translate is doing some weird stuff. If you google the second one, you get a pretty gross image of real life dung. Google Translate can't interpret all the slang available in the Arabic word I guess.
Also, there is no o sound at the end. I think I understand why google translate is mistranslating. It's because I didn't add Diacritics. The machine can't analyse the words properly because it doesn't know how to pronounce it. You need a human brain to interpret it or someone to write it out with vowel markers.
Don't ask me to start adding Tashkil to my Arabic, it's a nightmare on a keyboard.
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I'm glad I remember just enough high school Arabic to follow your explanation.
General explanation for other people:
In terms of pronunciation, the first and the third vary by a single letter <خ> vs <ك>, which is /x/ vs /k/ (so loch vs lock). The second varies from the first with the last /a:/ shortening to /a/ ('alif to fatḥah (here omitted)) and the loss of voicing on the last consonant shifting from /d/ to /t/, written <د> and <ة>, hence as a plausible bastardization. That last one is weird because it's a letter variant that I think often serves as a gender marker?
So Codex is saying that depending on how the <kh> in Alkharad's name is pronounced, you could plausibly mutate it into the Arabic for "the shit" if it's a /x/, but since /x/ and /k/ are contrastive in Arabic, a /k/ pronunciation wouldn't necessarily suggest that connection as immediately.
It's hard enough for me to do the normal abjad when I'm doing this on my phone and I don't even have an Arabic keyboard at all and wasn't going to get one for a single conversation.
Also had to make sure I was remembering the vowel values of the ḥarakāt of Arabic rather than the ómatehtar of the Tengwar.
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If it helps, "ħara" is also shit in Maltese language, which is distantly related to Arabic... with "il-ħarja" being "the shit"
It does not, however, have any positive connotation.
It does not, however, have any positive connotation.
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Unfortunately, one of the ways his name got scrambled was "Avacado", so the burrito clause made it non-canon.
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*ahem* I Was An Immortal Vampire But The Last Hero Who Slew Me Took Over The World And Now I'm The Rebellion's Only Hope?
How do Dwarves refer to Amethyst wizards? Do they use Uzkulzhufok--- as they would with necromancers, and you get it from the non-violent context of the discussion? Or would they use uzkulundi-zhufok---?
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The proper term would probably be Uzkulenzhufokri. The '-ar' suffix is something that continues indefinitely, the '-en' suffix is something that is currently happening but has a definite end. 'Uzkular' is the word for undeath in general, so 'uzkulen' seems like a good construction for denoting something that is explicitly not that.
Middenheim priests tend to be moderate Teutogen supremacists, the rest of Middenland has both those that reject it entirely and those that embrace it too enthusiastically for polite society.
I think 'Katalhuyk' is meant to be a reference to Çatalhöyük, so I wouldn't try to extract Khazalid from it.
The Wiki is wrong. It's 'Katalhüyk' in the original source, but the italicized 'h' can be mistaken for a 'b'.
Mopman43
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I'll have to take your word for it.
I specifically went to check my completely legitimate copy of Sold Down the River, but there seems to be a typo there stating it is buyk.
Edit: I have now found another completely legitimate copy, this one with the correct spelling. And corrected the wiki.
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Besides, Johann is the one with undeniable Kenergy.
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@Boney
I know the Golds made us promise to claim that we came up with the apparition binding techniques without citing them as a source.
And that we very briefly thought about trying apparition binding against Drycha but weren't sure that it would work at all.
I assume Laurelorn must have also been raided by Drycha at least once. They're a source of tree-themed magic and she's questing for more tree magic.
Suppose we asked the elves whether our apparition-binding techniques could be useful as a method of restraining or sealing Drycha.
I'm not sure which elves to ask specifically, but if we do a follow-on 'interactions of high magic and AV' research after the book publication, the topic of apparitions is likely to come up.
Then we explain the political kerfuffle about publishing, and if the 'bind drycha' idea might actually work, ask them to say that they were the ones to supply the initial techniques on subject.
the actual questions
1. Could we ask the Laurelorn elves to confirm one way or the other that our apparition-binding might be effective against Drycha?
2. Could we ask them to pretend to serve as a source for the inspiration of apparition-binding?
I know the Golds made us promise to claim that we came up with the apparition binding techniques without citing them as a source.
And that we very briefly thought about trying apparition binding against Drycha but weren't sure that it would work at all.
I assume Laurelorn must have also been raided by Drycha at least once. They're a source of tree-themed magic and she's questing for more tree magic.
Suppose we asked the elves whether our apparition-binding techniques could be useful as a method of restraining or sealing Drycha.
I'm not sure which elves to ask specifically, but if we do a follow-on 'interactions of high magic and AV' research after the book publication, the topic of apparitions is likely to come up.
Then we explain the political kerfuffle about publishing, and if the 'bind drycha' idea might actually work, ask them to say that they were the ones to supply the initial techniques on subject.
the actual questions
1. Could we ask the Laurelorn elves to confirm one way or the other that our apparition-binding might be effective against Drycha?
2. Could we ask them to pretend to serve as a source for the inspiration of apparition-binding?
NavySeel
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Pretty sure Boney has said that anyone Mathilde would ask about Drycha in Laurelorn would still know her as Drycha the kind, friend of elves.
So I seriously doubt she's raided them.
Edit: Here's the quote.
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deathofrats0808
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Boney's said before that the perception of Drycha in Laurelron is still that she's a kind and helpful soul who would only attack people if it was super necessary. So I doubt she's ever been there. They might know about whether appartition binding would work on dryads in general.
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But why would they tell us if something we have access to would be good for enslaving a good portion of their citizens?
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Yeah... if they haven't had any Drycha problems their knowledge of Aethel Loren is just going to be secondhand info that they have a bad reputation.
Still, maybe there will be some context to build off of once those tourists come back and confirm reports that Aethel Loren is unusually crazy, so dryad raiding problems become more sympathetic-sounding?
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Mopman43
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I'm pretty sure both of those Laurelorns are meant to be Athel Loren.