"If I die, you'll follow shortly after because the contract is all that keeps you alive" is a pretty efficient leash. IIRC, there is also supposed to be a "ready to obey, even if grudgingly" criteria on summoning, but that's an IIRC and nasu is bad with these things at the best of times.
There's really 3 things keeping them in line. The 3 command spells that let them give an absolute order, which *can* include ordering them to suicide. So... there's that. Then there's the fact that the servants are, for the most part, utterly dependent on their summoner for mana to sustain their existence. And, finally and perhaps most importantly, they mostly *also* want the wish from the grail. It's part of how the spell chooses who to summon. So they'll go along with things because they need the mage alive so they can win. Saber tends to be pretty loyal and obedient to her summoner, but uh, almost every other servant is pretty independent. Like, they'll protect their master because that person is their obvious weakpoint, but very few of them actually are submissive or obedient.
) So... Killing a chaos god? Knowledge of some sort? I dunno, how strong a wish *could* the grail grant?So, to make this less of a derail, what do we think Mathilde's wish would be? She seems to have mostly accepted Van Hal's death at this point, so I doubt she'd wish him back. (She could have just gone the omegahugger route if she wanted that
I honestly think Mathilde would be way too paranoid about the Grail to make a wish. She might think it's a Nurgle thing for example, what with the prominence of the number 7, or Khorne because of the bloodbath required beforehand.So, to make this less of a derail, what do we think Mathilde's wish would be? She seems to have mostly accepted Van Hal's death at this point, so I doubt she'd wish him back. (She could have just gone the omegahugger route if she wanted that
It is also worth noting that even Saber betrays and kills her Master in one of the Bad Ends (that you basically have to try to get)
*breathes in*
*exhales*She seems to have mostly accepted Van Hal's death at this point, so I doubt she'd wish him back. (She could have just gone the omegahugger route if she wanted that
Assuming a 'regular' Grail War, Mathilde would probably accurately deduce that the Holy Grail is full of bad mojo.
I'll be honest, I'm mostly unaware of the greater overarching metastory of Fate, but I'm pretty sure Saber's whole motivation is basically to use a wish to do something back when she was alive, yeah.
Closing the gates is a good one, yeah. And yeah, it's funny that she'd still retain some ability to generate Winds despite it. Hm. The Slann would probably still be able to use magic via the web in some form since it existed before the Gates. Godly magic would *probably* still work? Though since gods didn't seem to exist before the gates maybe the gates closing would make it harder for gods both chaotic and of order to affect the world. There'd probably be a pretty significant delay before the Vortex managed to drain all the magic out of the world. Though maybe Caledor would just let it go and let the existing magic be consumed via spellcasting over the next few years. I bet there'd be a lot of chaos cults trying to open warp gates on behalf of the gods to try and make a new breach. It would certainly lead to some excitement.
"Regular" Grail Wars exist? I thought they were just a myth!
Breaking the cycle wouldn't necessarily require a wish, but it would make it easier. Could just get it dismantled like the F/SN Grail was in some timelines, though I guess someone other than Mathilde would have to do that part given the premise.
Ranald gives Shallya her Cup, creating a stable time loop that results in his own ascension to godhood
Looks like you've accidently kept the luck description from her Assassin form.
That was intentional to explain her EX luck.
No "Liber Mortis [Sealed Due to Distaste], Requires the use of a Command Seal" ala Tamamo's Witchcraft?
Scariest class would be Caster Alter.
That leads to a different question. If all of her forms have EX luck, why mention specifically that the Assassin has more, and especially that the Assassin has more in the description of the other forms?
They don't all have EX Luck.
I know, that was intentional. Caster and Assassin do. The other classes may or may not.
But if Caster has EX luck just like Assassin, why would you put Assassin's luck on the Caster page? I don't get it.
