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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Okay I got a big question. Does the Tsar hunt bears? I don't remember all the lore details when it comes to Kislev so I gotta ask.
 
On a barely related note (honestly, just to distract myself from the current conversation), I have to imagine that between all the recruiting and negotiations we've done for either the Waystone Project or other things, that by the end of the arc Mathilde will definitely have the Politicking skill up to Basic, and maybe an offered trait relating to it.
 
Mopman43 said:
Ursun allows hunting bears as long as it is done respectfully (no traps, don't hunt a hibernating bear, etc)

Though, his Cult has minimal power right now.
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It's why I think it just may be a effective path here. Boris is pretty big about Ursine. Said Bear just might be quite a bit more ferocious than the Tsar would anticipate.

But it's very hubristic to assume Gods would silently support said plans. Just something that I think would be interesting.
 
Ouf. Well this definitely makes me happy we started the rollout in Stirland, where we had the personal trust with Roswita directly. I can't say I saw things being this desperate, but I did think our main ties in Kislev being the heir and us being foreign would cause issues. Unfortunately, the smooth rollout in Stirland didn't provide any dramatic or obvious enough benefits (unless you're Teclis) to get others on board.

But yeessshh this vote. I do think Boris is desperate and does very much want to improve things, but man killing leaders because you think someone else is better for the greater good...it's not a good path to walk down. I think in general I do lean towards yes, but I know the votes can reflect in Mathildes headspace and I believe some hesitancy at this massive step would be good.

[X] No
 
Erandil said:
I have to say the idea of a Wizard, even a high ranking one, being expected to single-handedly to decide wether to assinate the head of a neighbouring non hostile, sometimes even allied, power is severely immersion breaking to me and a really insane political stance. It practically makes their wizard lords more powerful as well as trusted than the entire rest of the imperial bureaucracy, even the elector counts, which goes against pretty much the entire established lore of Warhammer.

Killing foreign heads of state is one of the most direct shaping of foreign policy there is and the central authority losing control of such an activity is what we generally would associate with severe disfunction or failed states.
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The problem is... who would be?

Going for a Magister Patriarch or Matriarch means just kicking the problem up one step whilst introducing a large delay as MLs would have to go back to Altdorf for instructions (unless they're away which raises even bigger questions). The SP isn't that much better and the individual Colleges do have a tendency towards independence (as seen in the Night of a Thousand Arcane Duels).

Of course there's also going to the central authority (aka Luitpold) but the Colleges as a whole are independent enough that they quite readily resisted being outlawed by Dieter IV. Indeed Collegiate wizards have repeatedly decided what to disclose to Luitpold.

To push things even further Mathilde has made decisions that the Empire/Colleges/Grey College wouldn't agree with - particularly in regards to the Liber Mortis and Heidi's status.


Considering all that Mathilde is the LM on the spot she's not going to pass the buck and then be potentially forced to make a choice between what she wants to do and what the Grey College/Colleges/Imperial authorities want to do (which may very well differ from one another thus forcing Mathilde to pick between them).
 
The thread in general: "It is with a heavy heart and hand that I choose this, the lesser of two evils."

Meanwhile, in Omegahuggerland: "This is the third least morally ambigious vote we've had in years!"

[x] Yes

Tzar Vladimir, in death you will do more for the war against Za than you ever managed in life.

... I mean that in a non-Necromantic way I swear.
 
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A_Somebody said:
Ouf. Well this definitely makes me happy we started the rollout in Stirland, where we had the personal trust with Roswita directly. I can't say I saw things being this desperate, but I did think our main ties in Kislev being the heir and us being foreign would cause issues. Unfortunately, the smooth rollout in Stirland didn't provide any dramatic or obvious enough benefits (unless you're Teclis) to get others on board.

But yeessshh this vote. I do think Boris is desperate and does very much want to improve things, but man killing leaders because you think someone else is better for the greater good...it's not a good path to walk down. I think in general I do lean towards yes, but I know the votes can reflect in Mathildes headspace and I believe some hesitancy at this massive step would be good.

[X] No
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You could vote both, I know at least one other person did that. Also, Boney reads the thread, and the sentiment of Yes, but with awareness that it's a nasty thing is a pretty common sentiment.
 
Mathilde does generally reflect thread thoughts and comments, so she's gonna be somber aobut it, but imagine if it was just reflected in the vote instead.

Boris: I know this is...a grave matter, but...Sometimes, there are choices we have to make, and..what is yours?
Mathilde: I thought you'd never ask! Of course i'm gonna do it, i'll be happy to! Let's start right away! I can't wait to try this out.
Boris:...okay, i got concerns now
 
You know thinking about how this roll out action got so political and looks to be bloody just makes me want to roll out tributeries in some place that won't ask us to assasinate somebody.

So how about we roll out at Moot next turn? They border Sylvania as much as Stirland so they are a valid place to prioritize. It would pen Sylvaina and its Dhar in. Plus you know, Halfling would probably appriciate that we are improving the soil.
 
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[X] Yes
Beyond any other relevant information the basic fact of the matter is that the Tsar is an absolute monarch. If he fails to be an effective leader (Or even a mediocre but benign one) then there is literally no mechanism to get rid of him beyond violence. Kind of the major flaw in the system.
 
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