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I'm not really at all concerned about the morality of it (Boris has outright said if we don't he'll do it another way that will hurt Kislev worse and we don't exactly have any way to stop him), or if we can manage it, mainly just worried about that chance of being caught.

If we do get caught, we're at minimum banished from the Empire I think.

Except we're a Lady Magister, so probably they'd be required to go straight to execution or Pacification?
Permanent Elfcation. Or back to 8 peaks.
So how would we ask the emperor what he wants of Kislev? Just, run into the chamberlain in passing and say, "Hey, might be a good time to ask Kislev for any favors you want of them. I promise Boris is up for it."?
Hey Boss, turns out Kislev owes me their continued existence. Anything you want to capitalize on there? Cause I want them to ship all their magically capable boys south instead of killing them.
 
God, I wish we had based the Waystone Project in Kislev and it had never come to this.

There is nothing he would not do if it meant more Kislev and less Za, he said. It breaks my heart that he meant it.
 
God, I wish we had based the Waystone Project in Kislev and it had never come to this.

There is nothing he would not do if it meant more Kislev and less Za, he said. It breaks my heart that he meant it.
I suspect that if that had been the case we still would have been asked this, just for different reasons.

This is a case where… well, the assassination needs to happen not because of the tributaries, which are frankly relatively minor, but because the Tzar is just going to keep getting in the way of preparations, and the project being based in Kislev would not have actually changed that.
 
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Easiest method is if the Tsar goes on a hunt we have a shadow knife lodge itself in his heart while the guard are distracted. Easy, clean, no murder weapon.

But also very identifiably an assassination. The best bet it to use magic to interfere with a fight he's in- he has no friendly magic users with him most of the time, so they won't be actively able to detect it as it happens, and as long as we aren't too overt, it shouldn't leave much of a trace.
 
God, I wish we had based the Waystone Project in Kislev and it had never come to this.
Likely we could have avoided it if we had, though Boris would likely still have been chafing at Vladimir not taking it seriously.

But then again, maybe we'd have just put him and Johann in the same room for long periods of time and trusted him to work his magic?

There is nothing he would not do if it meant more Kislev and less Za, he said. It breaks my heart that he meant it.
Breaks his heart too.
 
But also very identifiably an assassination. The best bet it to use magic to interfere with a fight he's in- he has no friendly magic users with him most of the time, so they won't be actively able to detect it as it happens, and as long as we aren't too overt, it shouldn't leave much of a trace.
Have our shadow trip him right into a trolls mouth?
 
But also very identifiably an assassination. The best bet it to use magic to interfere with a fight he's in- he has no friendly magic users with him most of the time, so they won't be actively able to detect it as it happens, and as long as we aren't too overt, it shouldn't leave much of a trace.
Push them off a balcony. We did that to Petr von Stolpe.
 
One thing we should probably not ask for as a boon if we do this is MAXIMUM BOOK. The new Tsar immediately giving the Grey Wizard most known for international wheeling-and-dealing for their pet library that specific kind of carte blanche immediately after the suspicious death of the previous Tzar is, admittedly, the kind of anecdote that historians find very funny.
Not a good idea, though.
 
But also very identifiably an assassination. The best bet it to use magic to interfere with a fight he's in- he has no friendly magic users with him most of the time, so they won't be actively able to detect it as it happens, and as long as we aren't too overt, it shouldn't leave much of a trace.
Yeah, I mean, we could miasma his whole unit while they're fighting something and get them all killed with out a trace. But that's pretty tragic in its own way.
 
But also very identifiably an assassination. The best bet it to use magic to interfere with a fight he's in- he has no friendly magic users with him most of the time, so they won't be actively able to detect it as it happens, and as long as we aren't too overt, it shouldn't leave much of a trace.
Maybe a sleep spell at the right moment? Mathilde is the expert and has lots of options. We can certainly 47 him.
 
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Boris is the guy we're talking to. The Ice Witches like Boris:
Goshbedarnit, I meant Vladimir.

Eh, I'm still not super concerned, mainly because we only need a very brief window of time to get out of Kislev, and can travel faster than the news of our deed. Just the general confusion should keep that doable.
I do think we'll probably escape on the grounds we're just faster-but we might have to deal with a blizzard or whatever the Ice/Hag(Would they be around to mess with our escape?) Witches can cook up if we get caught.

Why would they even want to capture us? They like us better than they like him
They'd probably not know it was us, just that a magic user has shot the Tzar and figure they ought to do something about that.

If we do get caught then the Empire will probably banish, expel us from the college, remove us from the rolls of knighthood, and possibly blacklist the Waystone Project. It might also be good of us to ensure that Eike is visiting her grandmother so she doesn't get caught in the crossfire if things go south?
 
Probably best to just do it quietly, with a shadow tendril as he sleeps in the palace. 'Died in bed of natural causes' is the storyline we want if we want Kislev stable.
 
One thing we should probably not ask for as a boon if we do this is MAXIMUM BOOK. The new Tsar immediately giving the Grey Wizard most known for international wheeling-and-dealing for their pet library that specific kind of carte blanche immediately after the suspicious death of the previous Tzar is, admittedly, the kind of anecdote that historians find very funny.
Not a good idea, though.
How about formalization of the practice of sending their male magic users to the Colleges, or otherwise re-establishing the Fire Spire as a branch of or sister institution to the Colleges of Magic? That latter bit would be a plausible excuse to move some books around.
 
So any idea what this means? Kind of stuck here.

He is saying that he thinks things are bad enough and this is important enough that he is thinking of removing his father in a public way and that would lead to conflict and death even if he has most of the country on his side and if someone not of Kislev is behind the Tsar's death he can become Tsar with out the Title of disloyal son hanging over him making everything harder to accomplish. Plus I don't think he wants to kill his dad himself even if he thinks he has to be removed as Tsar.

Have we met Tsar Vladimir Bokha before?

No we have not and if we say yes we will in a way meet the Man.
 
One thing we should probably not ask for as a boon if we do this is MAXIMUM BOOK. The new Tsar immediately giving the Grey Wizard most known for international wheeling-and-dealing for their pet library that specific kind of carte blanche immediately after the suspicious death of the previous Tzar is, admittedly, the kind of anecdote that historians find very funny.
Not a good idea, though.
Besides, kind of inappropriate. All of this is about the sacrifices and dirty business done for the greater good, and while the library is definitely going to benefit quite a few people, it's still too personal to fit here.
 
God, I wish we had based the Waystone Project in Kislev and it had never come to this.

There is nothing he would not do if it meant more Kislev and less Za, he said. It breaks my heart that he meant it.
Thing is, it's not really about the Project

"Nie, not directly. Kislev is not a rich land, but it is a large land. What it lacks in treasure it has in muscle and will. But the Tsar goes unchallenged because he leaves the Boyars be, so those resources go towards their own comforts and projects and glory. Even if he wished to change things, he could not - the Boyars are so accustomed to his ways they will not accept his changing them. And I know for sure that he does not wish to change things."
"I have had the same solution in mind for many years - to wait until time and fate solves it. But there are movements to the north, movements we have seen before. Every year Za grows stronger while Kislev remains weak. Time can no longer save Kislev, it can only doom it. If waiting is not the solution, then acting must be."

It's about the Everchosen Bowl
Signs have begun showing in the north that Chaos is spooling up for another invasion, and Boris's assessment is that Kislev needs to start preparing for it right now and preferably yesterday if they're going to survive
And his father won't
He's tried talking and convincing but his father will not stir the Boyars into action in preparation of the coming storm

It's why saying something like "well if you hold off for another year I might have actual Waystones ready and then it'll almost certainly get support" is not an option
Boris can't wait another year, and Waystone rollout isn't even the primary concern

Us coming here to talk about the tributary rollout is just a convenient spark
 
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We could Mockery of Death him in his sleep and then just wait for his guards to burn him.
Kislev funeral tradition (well, the kind for the actually-dead, not the ones they hold for people who are alive) for warriors is for them to be sent out into the Oblast on their horse.

But Mockery of Death only lasts for a few days (a Tsar's funeral would certainly be a whole event into itself), and he'd still be physically breathing while under the spell.

Too risky imo.
 
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