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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Fouredged Sword said:
I am confidant we could pull it off. I am not that we would not be caught. We are very sneaky on the entrance. Not so much on the exit.

We are as the night. The coming of night can sneak up on you. The dawn that signals it's departure? Not so easily missed.
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This will certainly be a test of if Mathilde is actually capable of subtlety.

Or, given everything, she might just arrange for his death through other means. Canon-wise Vladimar died fighting Goblins in the east (presumably coming out of the Dukhlys), we might very well set that up.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
I am confidant we could pull it off. I am not that we would not be caught. We are very sneaky on the entrance. Not so much on the exit.

We are as the night. The coming of night can sneak up on you. The dawn that signals it's departure? Not so easily missed.
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It took them week to find all the poison dots we stuck to the emperor during our testing. We don't have to fight him, he just has to die. And we can do that very quietly indeed.
 
Holy shit. Me saying: This could go really well or really bad.
Is the understatement of the century.
This will likely have a similar impact on the Quest and the timeline as our successful Re-conquista of 8 Peaks.

If we choose to do this we need to make absolutely sure this succeeds or we're better off not doing it.
 
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Gavin Prince said:
Almost a shame we didn't go for Hexenwraith styling on our Rider, and imbue it with Directed/Duel instructions.

A giant scythe-wielding skeletal rider crashing through to murderise the Tzar while cackling the entire way would certainly not give cause for anyone to say "Imperinyi Grey Wizard Did This!"
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It might if Grey Wizards then become famous for summoning scythe-wielding skeletal riders.
 
Every time we've seen Boris he's been nothing but competent and well-meaning, He's shown that he's annoyed with his dear old dad not really doing the non glorious work of being a ruler but he's picked up the slack there. He currently thinks Kislev is in a really shitty spot and will only get worse with time. I'd say he has a pretty decent read of the situation. I'm currently leaning in the direction of killing the King.
 
I'm leaning towards "no".

We've managed to avoid this sort of thing up until now. Killing for political reasons is a step we've not had to take yet and I see no reason to start now.

Besides, these tributaries are just the first thing to come out of the waystone project. From the sounds of things if we eventually produce something bigger with more visible impact and immediate value, then the people of Kislev would be on board with rolling things out anyway.
 
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He speaks again, this time, it seems, more to himself than to you. "I cannot stand by as the extinction of Kislev becomes the legacy of the Bokhas." He refocuses on you. "If not you, then it must be another way. A worse way. A way that will hurt Kislev at a time when it cannot afford to be hurt. If you have a price, or your Order has a price, or your Emperor has a price, it will be paid."
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Boney, is this implying that without our help, Boris will forcefully usurp his father, whether by assassination or openly?
 
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I'm not really at all concerned about the morality of it (Boris has outright said if we don't he'll do it another way that will hurt Kislev worse and we don't exactly have any way to stop him), or if we can manage it, mainly just worried about that chance of being caught.

If we do get caught, we're at minimum banished from the Empire I think.

Except we're a Lady Magister, so probably they'd be required to go straight to execution or Pacification?
 
I do not think this is a good idea. Meddling with another nation's course like this, even if if it were for good reason, even if it's never found out that we did it... it just doesn't sit right with me. And "assassinating somebody just because they're in the way", because that's what this is, isn't a good reason in my book.

Plus, it feels like if we did it, we'd always have in the back of our mind "We assassinated a head of state for this; what's a bit of <X> in light of that?" for other decisions regarding the Waystone Project. Or for another other future project or cause we undertake that would be big enough.
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"Nie, not directly. Kislev is not a rich land, but it is a large land. What it lacks in treasure it has in muscle and will. But the Tsar goes unchallenged because he leaves the Boyars be, so those resources go towards their own comforts and projects and glory. Even if he wished to change things, he could not - the Boyars are so accustomed to his ways they will not accept his changing them. And I know for sure that he does not wish to change things."
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... Is there any way to get the Boyars on board with the Waystone Project instead, then? If the Tsar won't order this because it's an Imperinyi project -- and because the payoffs are incremental and slow -- then can the Boyars be convinced to do this somehow?

Some way to convince them that this will leave them stronger or wealthier or more secure against the Za?

Some way to make them think it'll improve their authority or their grip on their land? The idea being that "This is Boyar land; protected by the wards/deals/etc they have made; not the Tsar as a whole"? And so their own fierce independence is moved to do this; it isn't something that centralized authority imposes on them, but rather something that they themselves did?


... Or, alternatively, we could enter negotiations with Ulthuan for some way to get bigger and faster ways to drain energy, maybe?
 
Mopman43 said:
I'm not really at all concerned about the morality of it (Boris has outright said if we don't he'll do it another way that will hurt Kislev worse and we don't exactly have any way to stop him), or if we can manage it, mainly just worried about that chance of being caught.

If we do get caught, we're at minimum banished from the Empire I think.

Except we're a Lady Magister, so probably they'd be required to go straight to execution or Pacification?
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I'd be more worried about what the Kislevites might do to us than the Empire
 
Well, did not see that one coming. That said, Id say ensuring Kislev is as strong and prepared as possible is certainly something we should favor. That includes a proactive, imperial-friendly Tzar.

Also, it sounds very much like the alternative would be civil war, which would most likely weaken Kislevs and Boris position. If he even wins it.
 
Anyway I think we have to take the chance. I believe we are very likely to succeed (the Tsar has sent away the magic users that might somewhat counter us), and getting a sympathetic, active Tsar on the throne is going to be critical when the next Storm of Chaos hits.

Though I must say, assassinating the ruler of Kislev is definitely going to make us a more likely Everchosen Candidate again, lol.
 
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