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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Doomed Wombat said:
First things first, why the hell is this called a mortifying ordeal? I would assume its this
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It's probably a reference to the saying 'The mortifying ordeal of being known'. Teclis has now noticed the existence of new waystones being made, and the waystone project gang is gonna have to scramble to get what they want out of Ulthuan now that they're aware of what's happening.
 
xamaplak said:
We don't know if Teclis is actually coming; he might not be able to come himself because of health constraints. He has to wait an unknown but annoying-for-an-Elf amount of time before it's safe to take a high enough dose of his medication, we may well be getting a note and some angry and terrified non-Teclis elves.
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I'll point out that he needs to wait to take the medication he needs to fight, but if he's fighting then that's honestly a problem.

Other than that it depends. The implication is that he'd be writing to people who are going to be very pissy, but despite his many diplomatic blunders Finbur is meant to be a diplo Phoenix King.

My guess is that if Teclis can't come personally he'll ask Finreir, the surviving Archmage who came with him to the empire. Assuming Finreir isn't dead.

Alliterate said:
Perspective of three Journeymanlings when told their cushy, repetitive ritual Journeywork attracted the personal, intrigued attention of Teclis all the way in the White Tower of Hoeth, and mobilized an Ulthuani response.
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I mean it was going to happen no matter what. I imagine a consequence of doing the project in Kislev would have been alerting them earlier since Boris said he'd threaten to yeet the elves out of Eingrad if that's what it took and well Teclis is seemingly asking them to take readings for him.

What is more interesting to me is that the reconnection of 8 peaks, Vlag and Dum didn't show up on the readings, implying the Karaz Ankor severed their net work from the wider Ulthuani network.

Execute/Dumbo said:
It's probably a reference to the saying 'The mortifying ordeal of being known'. Teclis has now noticed the existence of new waystones being made, and the waystone project gang is gonna have to scramble to get what they want out of Ulthuan now that they're aware of what's happening.
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Ah, Bocchi reference I see.

Well we'll see, personally I want to make em sweat by considering the Drucchi offer.
 
NuclearConsensus said:
If Teclis does come back, which he might not, it would be funny if it ends up similarly to Thorgrim, where Mathilde waltzes off to Naggarythe just as Teclis is asking which one of his kids deserves a gold star.
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I thought it would be hilarious if he hears one of his Lord Magisters was visiting Ulthaun and decided to meet her to see if she knew anything about what the Colleges were doing with Waystones, not realising it was the project lead on vacation.
 
Alliterate said:
Regimand is First Wizard Dad, yes.
Abelhelm was Stern Elector-Count Dad.
Uncle Belegar, of course.
Algard is our Second Wizard Dad. Though I'm not sure about their home life.
Grandpa Kragg, naturally.
(Great-Great-Great-Greatuncle Hatalath status pending)
Teclis is of course welcome to join the family!
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What about Thorek though? The other Grandpa? Granduncle?
Doomed Wombat said:
As in a spy network or is he refering to areas like Sylvania that don't have way stones anymore?
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Possibly the latter. Another example would be the Brass Keep, taken over by Chaos.

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FallenPears said:
I thought it would be hilarious if he hears one of his Lord Magisters was visiting Ulthaun and decided to meet her to see if she knew anything about what the Colleges were doing with Waystones, not realising it was the project lead on vacation.
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This also crossed my mind, as did the other scenario where it was Eike, staying at Lothern, who he ran into.
 
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Doomed Wombat said:
What is more interesting to me is that the reconnection of 8 peaks, Vlag and Dum didn't show up on the readings, implying the Karaz Ankor severed their net work from the wider Ulthuani network.
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I don't think we can quite rule that out yet. What drew Teclis attention was that the network was basically gaining +1 energy on daily basis for months, instead of like +200 like Vlag might have been.

Given he is explicity rulling out reconnection because of that. Which means he might seen a +200 energy, looked at old world rumour mill to seen re-capture of Eight Peaks of Vlag figured out that was it.

I don't think we can rule either way about it quite yet.

Boney said:
And this pattern, it seems, has been recurring day after day for months now. This is no swelling of magical energies in the area, no happenstance reconnection of a temporarily disconnected branch of the network.
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Doomed Wombat said:
What is more interesting to me is that the reconnection of 8 peaks, Vlag and Dum didn't show up on the readings, implying the Karaz Ankor severed their net work from the wider Ulthuani network.
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that energy got pretty quickly repurposed into reactivating the eyes of grimnir and powering the runes of valaya, remember? it went towards that the minute the high kings crown noticed it
 
It's possible that the Grey Lords noticing that K8P reconnected had nothing to do with their side of the network—it was a pretty dramatic event, after all, and whilst they are on the opposite side of the continent, they are still on the continent, and could have simply "seen" it happen, whereas Ulthuan might not even know because they don't have access to that corner of the world.
 
Execute/Dumbo said:
That's great, but also to my knowledge we need the codes for managing Waystones or this isn't going to work, and only Ulthuan would really know them.
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According to the people who mentioned the codes in the first place, either Ulthan and the Drucchi are potential sources for that info and Mathilde echos the sentiment. I know one of the elves mentioned it as well, but I can't find it quickly.

Boney said:
"So we try to extract it from Ulthuan, try to extract it from Naggaroth, or try our luck prodding the enchantment further," you say dubiously, and you get the round of nods you expected but did not want in response. "Well, I suppose we knew going into it that it wasn't going to be easy."
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+ the Drucchi noticed first, turned up first etc.

This is speculation, but I would also speculate that they'll demand a lower price for it than Ulthuan might as well as potentially be willing to spot us info on things like how to build our own network to spite Ulthuan.

I'm not saying we should accept, just make it clear that we're not going to wait on them hand and foot when there are alternatives.

Sa'kage said:
I don't think we can quite rule that out yet. What drew Teclis attention was that the network was basically gaining +1 energy on daily basis for months, instead of like +200 like Vlag might have been.

Given he is explicity rulling out reconnection because of that. Which means he might seen a +200 energy, looked at old world rumour mill to seen re-capture of Eight Peaks of Vlag figured out that was it.

I don't think we can rule either way about it quite yet.
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I think that the network gaining +200 would have been worth a mention, especially since he asked the elves in Kislev to do readings.

DocMatoi said:
that energy got pretty quickly repurposed into reactivating the eyes of grimnir and powering the runes of valaya, remember? it went towards that the minute the high kings crown noticed it
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Speculation, but based on what we know the dwarves payment for the network was that part of the energy is siphoned off for their needs, but plenty would have still been going to Ulthuan.

The lack of reaction to me suggests the dwarves completely separated the networks during the war of vengence? Potentially.

The network is an absolute hodgepodge so who knows what things might be interacting accidentally. Hell I'm not sure if the geomantic web is its own thing or part of a similar, but distinct network. Eh.
 
CeBrudras said:
I don't think """fixing""" Teclis is an interesting narrative to pursue if it even would be possible, but for his condition something Runic actually seems pretty fitting. Passive always-on boosts are super convenient here and Dwarves have a lot of stamina and toughness stuff in their set of effects. The craft of Thugni also seems like a decent avenue for fucking over an ancient elvish curse.
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Fixing Teclis isn't on the table. The Curse of Aenarion is one of the most famous and powerful divine manifestations in the setting, and Teclis has been dealing with it for hundreds of years.

But it's not infinitely powerful, or Teclis chugging potions wouldn't affect it at all. He manages it in various ways, using various methods to eke out a bit more energy, or expend less.

I think a couple more tricks would be very welcome, and would make for a nice scene. And it's not like these aren't very valuable to the Colleges and the Grey Order in their own right.
 
BurnNote said:
Algard is Wizard Uncle Who Is Also Family Head.

The ice witch is either grandma or great aunt.
Baba is or will be grandma. I insist
Johann is the cousin you really like. Gehenna is the cool aunt who lives in another state.
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Not sure which Ice Witch you're referring to. (Okay, I absolutely know which one you're referring to.) Too bad for Zlata--she seems to be interesting if we ever want to just hang with her, except AP hell means we never do.
 
NuclearConsensus said:
What about Thorek though? The other Grandpa? Granduncle?
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Thorek started out as Granpa's frenemy. Now he's more like an older colleague. That may change, but we haven't really had any personal talks with him. With Kragg, we talked about his feelings on the reconquest, on how he's willing to die to keep it that way, how he's working on Bok with little hope of actually succeeding, on how Mathilde is doing a good job for being an Umgi, and we went and told him how we killed a vampire with his stuff. We know Kragg the dwarve. Runeing is a large part of that, but it's not the only part.

With Thorek, we've only talked with the Runelord. About using AV in runes, and other magic stuff, but also the political aspects of being a runelord. His trouble with the guild, getting support from him through his apprentices, the secrets of the middenland dwarfs. But none of that was personal, the way it was with Kragg. There's a reason he's Grandpa, and that's because we had several social actions with him, and he's willing to let Mathilde be more personable/informal than just about any dwarf.
 
Boney said:
Vitality that could lend any other Elf enough strength to lift a boulder floods through him and wars with a curse as old as Ulthuan, giving him just enough strength to sit upright and lift his writing implements.
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Boney said:
"Oh, my sweet, clever children," he laughs, and lifts his quill with a flourish to start writing a series of letters that will make a lot of Elves very upset.
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We had to earn that flourish and we 🦆 ing did!
 
People mentioned that Teclis returning might result in the colleges getting new spells, but what if the opposite is true? What if upon Teclis returning he gets a look at all the wacky spells that the humans have come up with during their insanely suicidal (from an elf perspective) experimentation and notes them down to add to the Elven spellbook?
 
Zero Gravitas said:
It'd be amazing if Teclis comes in just as Mathilde is showing off the Orbs.



Or they showed up and then the all the ambassadors send letters detailing what happened - so it became low priority.
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Setting aside the question of whether he'll turn up at all (I think Finreir is more likely personally) I think what's more interesting is the Aetheric vitae.

Its the one thing we have where I'm somewhat uncertain whether the HE's have it. I am 97% sure they do, but we lucked into it so randomly I'm convinced that there's a tiny chance they don't, or at the very least it is waaaaaaay up the tech tree and we've accidentally pole vaulted over to it.

Sinsystems said:
People mentioned that Teclis returning might result in the colleges getting new spells, but what if the opposite is true? What if upon Teclis returning he gets a look at all the wacky spells that the humans have come up with during their insanely suicidal (from an elf perspective) experimentation and notes them down to add to the Elven spellbook?
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I mean, most of the wacky spells come from doing things that I'm pretty sure are suicidal for an elf. Not just from their perspective.

+ the elves have had a lot longer to note down wacky spells.

That said if Teclis does finally turn up to finish what he started we don't need new spells we need him to teach us the bits of magical theory that aren't focused around optimising the production of battle mages.
 
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