Mopman43
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Harpies are also part of the Beastmen roster, they aren't just in Naggaroth.
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A detailed picture of the Winds is also useful to Wizards writing about Winds. The Windfall paper includes sketches that attempt to explain what each Wizard present sensed at the Windfall, and while that's not nothing it would've been incredibly useful to also have photographs. I don't believe the auditory version has that advantage, unless Mathilde and Egrimm are also going to invent the phonograph record.
Ok ,so how about this :
So a two headed humanoid entity with four arms and two head with the heads like Janus is depicted one forward looking and one backward looking with for arms like how asura is depicted ,but leaner ,more like an assassin build with weapons in each hand and a cloak.
So a two headed humanoid entity with four arms and two head with the heads like Janus is depicted one forward looking and one backward looking with for arms like how asura is depicted ,but leaner ,more like an assassin build with weapons in each hand and a cloak.
At that point you could strip your current one of its shape and start from scratch, but it'd undo all the hard work you put into binding and training it, so it seems entirely worse than keeping the one you've got and making the new skin with an entirely new Rider.
That's a good point re: Ambers, but though Harpies are most easily found in Naggaroth and Troll Country, they also have a tendency to start showing up whenever and wherever Beastmen infestations get really bad.
I think we'll be fine, judging by this Boney quote about spells that look like they cause mutations:
If a wizard in grey robes, a witch hunters hat, and has a reputation for being a sworn enemy of the dead, turns up and starts throwing ghosts at people, you're going to file it under "not my problem". Maybe even "ask the chaplain about it later" if you're really worried.
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If the form is not able to change than I would prefer a generic knight. My initial motivation for this was the Mist Knights hype. Also its a battle magic meant to charge and cause fear/confusion. I believe a knight charging will better fit the very apparition that was bound.
Absolute not voting for spiders, cant see it having the same use.
Absolute not voting for spiders, cant see it having the same use.
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Having a common touchstone wind phenomona on record for the Collages is actually big deal. It will cut down the invidual attempts to comminicate specific phenomona as wizards won't have to each create invidual keys for their own works. They can point to picture on our Seviroscope and then explain the differences from there.
That is solid advancement.
Edit: Audotry one is more of applied magic advenecement compared to visual which is theorical magic advencement.
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I personally like the idea of the spider since I think it would, weirdly, fit us.....
Hmmm, maybe a giant cat? Symbol of our God. Or maybe a knight astride a cat mount?
Hmmm, maybe a giant cat? Symbol of our God. Or maybe a knight astride a cat mount?
Ranald riding a giant cat.
Actually; there I can see there are scenarios where both would be useful for the Grey College.
A generic Grey Wizard is a nice decoy to have, particularly if a Grey Wizard summon the Rifer and cast Doppleganger only on the human part to look like the generic wizard, achieving a similar thing in reverse). There are some interesting spy tricks you can play with having a standardised appearance that agents can assume in a setting with limited communication.
More generally, on the early modern battlefield it would be very hard to distinguish one grey wizard from another. People's eyesight isn't that good and early telescopes are harder to use and expensive. If you know there's an enemy grey wizard and see one riding around you're likely to not recognise its genericness.
Having the ability to manufacture sightings and even the appearance of Mathilde Weber on a battlefield is also valuable for the College.it allows them to play misdirection games, cover up if Mathilde has gone on long term assignment abroad, and potentially even cover up her eventual death to keep trading on her reputation.
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Oof, OK, then developing skins is actually pretty risky, since it would involve redoing the capture and binding and then we have a whole extra Apparition bolted to our soul with a different skin than the one we've already got. No wonder companies charge premium currency for the skins in lootboxes, if making new ones is this aggravating.
That's a great argument and has swung me back around to supporting Mounted Wraiths.
The skin is applied at the point of binding the Rider. More specifically, the skin is the binding.
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I think both versions of the sevirscope are valuable enough that we should do first one, then the other. They have completely different use cases for the most part.
Auditory is for wide spread field usage, visual is for high fidelity lab usage. Both are significant advances.
Auditory is for wide spread field usage, visual is for high fidelity lab usage. Both are significant advances.
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Mathilde on a horse is a superb look for our Rider. It's extremely useful for Mathilde specifically, doesn't actually disadvantage other Grey Wizards anymore than a generic knight - hell, a famous Grey Wizard Lord seeming to show up as reinforcements is a bonus - and it spreads Mathilde's fame, which we're fully leaning into. It also makes it seem more like a regular spell in my opinion, what with the obvious personalisation by the original codifier.
I'm not too fussed about miscasting Mathilde clones actually bouncing back on our reputation anymore than another form doing so. It'd be pretty obvious to anyone who matters.
As for the Seviroscope, the visual version is explicitly described as being less mobile but better for detail work, which is exactly what we want for Kragg in his workshop. If we find a use case for the auditory version we can make it then.
I'm not too fussed about miscasting Mathilde clones actually bouncing back on our reputation anymore than another form doing so. It'd be pretty obvious to anyone who matters.
As for the Seviroscope, the visual version is explicitly described as being less mobile but better for detail work, which is exactly what we want for Kragg in his workshop. If we find a use case for the auditory version we can make it then.
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Mopman43
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I know that Mathilde is a fairly conspicuous grey wizard, but I still don't want to Codify a spell that would plaster Mathilde's face everywhere.
She's obviously capable of changing what she looks like, but it'd make basic Alys Schmidt level intrigue more difficult if our actual face becomes very well known.
It also just feels a bit too self-loving. Something Sigvald would do.
She's obviously capable of changing what she looks like, but it'd make basic Alys Schmidt level intrigue more difficult if our actual face becomes very well known.
It also just feels a bit too self-loving. Something Sigvald would do.
Of course, Mathidle is actually a knight, so one that looks like her would actually qualify as this…
More seriously; a lot of things that a most knight can do a Mathilde rider can do. Particularly if we develop the Knights in the Mist spell I proposed, the fog bank should obscure their actual features.
I wonder if the skin we choose influences how difficult and sturdy the binding is. I imagine encasing the Rider in a solid suit of armor might be more stable than trying for a more loose, clothy look? Or it is the other way around, because Ulgu doesn't lend itself as easily to solid materials and thus something more loose and swaddling like robes or a cloak would be a better binding material?
[ ] [RIDER] Mounted Wraiths
[ ] [RIDER] Knight
-[ ] Conventional Empire
[ ] Other (Ulgu Dragon)
[ ] Other (Ranald on a Giant Cat)
I think I'm happy with any of these winning, even if a couple of them are a little... memey.
[ ] [RIDER] Knight
-[ ] Conventional Empire
[ ] Other (Ulgu Dragon)
[ ] Other (Ranald on a Giant Cat)
I think I'm happy with any of these winning, even if a couple of them are a little... memey.
The type of clothing or covering is irrelevant, as no part of the underlying Apparition is actually exposed to the open air. Even the parts that would look like skin would really be part of the Ulgu bindings that cover the being beneath.
All of those have the issue that it would be highly implausible to have them show up anywhere solo. They are also just some guy to Demons or Druuchi or whomever. Teclis going into melee and fighting with a sword is odd, but his form has the advantage that he genuinely just randomly shows up to save the day wherever he happens to be.
Teclis will also be hilarious because Mathilde's interpretation of Teclis probably has like an eight-pack due to how the colleges idolize him
Sentence has too many verbs. It also strikes me as odd that this doesn't already exist if magically attuned metal is the only necessity. I remember from that Kragg interlude forever ago that he very much is an expert of the winds on a theoretical level. What stopped Runesmiths from inventing this already?
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Hmm. With the clarification about how hard reskinning is likely to be, I'm swinging away from the Mathilde idea, since we'd want something that works for both Mathilde and other wizards. I'm back with Pickle on supporting the ringwraith look again.