Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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You'd never sell enough for it to matter. Enchanted items are rare and expensive. Otherwise, presumably every soldier would at least have a Bless-enchanted melee weapon.
Somic
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It's not about quantity, it's about having this as an option! How many influential people would appreciate having a gun that works on magical enemies?
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We weren't quiet when pitching the Waystones Project around to potential sponsors; we went to Kislev, to Bretonnia, to the Empire. When the project turned their offers down in favour of Laurelorn, that made it a point of gossip that Laurelorn was accepting visitors. Any agents could report that gossip back to Druchii spymasters from anywhere on the continent and, together with other clues like the Ulric situation and the movement of trade goods, they put together a picture that says Laurelorn is open for business. Then it's just a matter of confirming it with an envoy.
I don't doubt that Ulthuan knows either. They're just deciding what to do about it and probably figure they have a while before the project even starts in earnest, it having been only two years and all.
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Mopman43
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I'd imagine intermediaries are a possibility.
It'll probably be brought up as a downside if we vote to relinquish Head Librarian.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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Few of them? Most of the people who can afford this as an option are probably more comfortable with melee weapons, and then just use those instead. Which makes sense, given the setting, battles are going to come down to melee more often than not.
They've been very respectful to the original lore and when they have added stuff it's been very good. You really wouldn't be able to tell from Total Warhammer that the entire 'Vampire Coast' faction came from a handful of offhand mentions and the board game Dreadfleet, and after that was well received they went hard into making full factions of Kislev and Cathay and the Chaos Dwarves. The game's excellent at encouraging roleplaying through game mechanics, and they haven't been afraid to completely overhaul factions to make that happen when they didn't get it right the first time, like with Wood Elves and Beastmen. The game is just filled with genuine love for the franchise and ungodly amounts of effort and research has gone into every part of it.
Tasoli
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It won't be a (hah) Silver bullet but I think everylittle bit advancement we offer will help.
Plus as it has been noted in story Melee is not always a good idea against monsters so enchanted pistols make sense. And not something others can do since Ulgu Tongs research we did is rather unique.
As I said melee is not always good idea against some monsters. IT has been noted in story even, now granted there is some bias there I imagine since the one who said it was Gustav but he is -I think- right.
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We could give our library a planetarium! Like the one Wan Shi Tong's library in Avatar, though more advanced. Maybe we could get the Celestials or the Golds to build it for us. (I'm not sure who the work would go to; Celestials are the space dudes, but Golds are the engineers.) It'd be impressive for sure, and it's not something you need to be literate to appreciate, so the people of the karak could enjoy visiting it.
Another idea is to give the library a mercenary army. There's a lizardman army that's contracting themselves out in the Old World, taking payments in plaques, and we could do something similar. Our mercenaries would go out, get paid in books, and return them to the karak to exchange them for cash. I think it's likely there's clients who value their gold more than their ancestors' books. It'd also bump up the number of soldiers who can fight for the karak's defence, and they accompany us to dangerous book-holding locations like Drakenhof.
Another idea is to give the library a mercenary army. There's a lizardman army that's contracting themselves out in the Old World, taking payments in plaques, and we could do something similar. Our mercenaries would go out, get paid in books, and return them to the karak to exchange them for cash. I think it's likely there's clients who value their gold more than their ancestors' books. It'd also bump up the number of soldiers who can fight for the karak's defence, and they accompany us to dangerous book-holding locations like Drakenhof.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I mean, unless the enchantment of bullets is due to Mathilde's Mastery (which it isn't in canon), it is a thing anyone can do, because it would just be enchanting something to cast a spell, which is what a bunch of enchantments already do (the dragonflask and the seed come to mind, just from Mathilde's lst of magic items).
A planetarium will never be accurate so long as morslieb is the way it is...
Somic
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You know the answer
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deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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This just makes me think of the Quantum Moon Locator in Outer Wilds. I need to go finish that game.
Excellent, we've finally found a place our court ordered chaos cult infiltration can fit in. Everyone knows you're not a real institution without one afterall!
Tasoli
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I remember GM post to that it is not possible to enchants something to mass produce magic but I can't find it. At any rate Bless spell has always been cast to ammo invidually and we never even heard anything that did such enchantment.
But you are missing the point which is my fault since I started with enchantments as that is what I expect most popular but to create such enchantment we need to codfy a spell that blesses the pistol to fire blessed ammo! That is a solid advencement over invidually weaving to every bullet as collages do now. And that is only possible with Ulgu tongs!
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The question is which spell creation trust Mathidle would need. I don't think Warrior of Fog would do it.
I don't think any Apparitions have ranged weapons. Maybe the in the future the Red Rider will manifest as a pistoleer or Outrider, but they don't see to yet.
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Tasoli
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Enchanter, Ulgu tongs combo I am thinking.
Edit: We also have skills with pistols and mastery for bless weapons. That should be enough to create right Voltron for such spell.
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Codex
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Your reply got me to check the leading plans to see what's going on, and hey, guess what.
I agree with you. I don't think attempting to create a liminal realm with what little we know of them is a very good idea. The fact that all the leading plans have that makes me worried, so hey. Keep doing you. I would have voted if that option didn't exist.
Thing is; Enchanter's not a spell creation trait, and I think we've had the idea of spells that creat enchantments vetoed. Ulgu Tongs isn't a trait at all, spell creation or otherwise.
The thread seem to have become allergic to preparatory actions, preferring JFDI. We could, I think, have asked Askel about the susceptibility of liminal realms to daemonic incursion, or seen if the secret lore of the Cult of Gazul had anything relevant; but people just wanted to yolo it.
Given the choice is between not doing it at all and doing it without preparation, I narrowly prefer the later.
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Out of curiosity, would it have been your preference to wait on the Room of Calamity being available again before trying the AV liminal realm a second time, or is your position more like Glau's that we should just write the book saying what happened the first time we tried and let someone else take a swing at it?
Tasoli
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How did we justify RoW anyway? I don't remmember.
Codex
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At the very least wait on the Room of Calamity. That is the bare minimum. I would also struggle to vote for it unless someone gave me an entire list on how it isn't dangerous and won't cause us to be accosted by another Lord of Change now that one has laid eyes on us.
The next step in getting me to accept it is to do a lot more research on Liminal Realms. The wording of the action makes it look like we dipped our toes into Liminal Realms with our last action, and instead of accepting that it might be dangerous and require a little more exploring, we decide to cannonball straight into the pool. Without safety gear.
To put it lightly, I think it's an utterly ridiculous notion. This is coming from someone who is no longer part of the thread zeitgeist, so maybe there was a hype train with lots of plausible theories and alternatives to explain why so many threadgoers are gungho about it. But from the outside, I just don't see it.
It was the edge of the range Warrior of Fog covered. Justified in that it can be used to move troops across terrain no one could expect them to cross.
Warrior of Fog 'Unlocks creation of battlefield spells for revealing or concealing troop movements.'
Boney was generous by saying the troop movement part of the trait allowed it, I think.
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We were told that the only safety precautions required for liminal realms research was a large open field and good running shoes. If something goes wrong, the best thing to do is run far away. The Room of Calamity would be the lesser option even if it were available.