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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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mathymancer said:
+Will likely have relevant books on enemies on man, since this Aquila Academy is notable for considering the fight against Chaos to be very important.
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The Chaos enemy stuff is secret, as far as I'm aware, and tied to the Araby crusade lore. They may not have that focus in DL, and even if they did, they may not give those books to us on account of being secret and Chaos-related.

mathymancer said:
Minor Colleges of Nuln
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Two more pluses that I can think of. First, opposite of one of GUN's cons: a lot of the books aren't very technical (like cookbooks) or else are related to trades the scribes may know, which means it's lower difficulty for them. An additional thing to help cut teeth. The other plus is that because it's broadly useful to the karak, it'll encourage the populace to pick up literacy and visit. Tying the library to the karak is why we picked locals as scribes.
 
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Thomasfoolery said:
I think Eike would be completely fine alone, it's a well policed trading port. Honestly her trip this turn setting up the charcoal route was probably more dangerous.
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I still support making Wolf go with her. Apprentice+ Best boy combo is too cute to miss
Boney said:
The Phoenix Kings fall into three broad categories: warlike, scholarly, and cosmopolitan. The latter two categories would probably qualify.
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And the former skips straight to honour duel?
 
NexusEye said:
We're running low on papers but we still have several things in the Accumulated Artefacts list that we could study and produce papers on those. It's slower but we could set up a rhythm where we research one thing and write a paper about another, then next turn we research a new thing and write a paper about what we were researching last turn.
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  • Lustrian Rubbings seems popular this upcoming turn, in both the vague hope that it'll have Foundations-relevant material and in order to give Max something to do for WEBMAT.
  • First-hand reports on the Rider in Red seems likely to be worth a paper even separately from the Ulgu-binding, given that apparently nobody else has survived a fight with one and written about it. It may be a little suspicious to publish this right before it comes out that Mathilde Weber has invented a brand-new spell that involves summoning a man-on-horseback monster, though. Maybe take the "Anonymous Author" hit on the College Favour payout to muddy the connection?
  • The AV book gives us a little breathing space for papers, either taking up this turn and next, or just next, or next and the following depending on what plan gets picked.
 
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Ok, so here's the thing: I really really want to use Protector on our vacation. But I really really think we should use an alias on it.

There's no mention of people being prevented from being able to figure out Mathilde is [alias] so I think we should send Eike + WEBMAT person off on a boat to Uluthan, and not let them know we are getting the boat with them.

Maybe just show up to get the boat back with them at the end of the trip for fun, despite the fact that it would massively damage our secrecy.

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Wait. I know our alias: what was the name of our book charchter? The fake pulp action/romance novels about Mathilde's adventures?
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@Boney, there is a tinyyy problem. Eike has sworn a vow. A serious vow, very strict.
There's been mention of having her try to set up trade deals in Uluthan's port city that's open to non-elves. Just throwing out an idea, but would she be allowed to negotiate some Book purchases for our library?
 
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Gavin Prince said:
First-hand reports on the Rider in Red seems likely to be worth a paper even separately from the Ulgu-binding, given that apparently nobody else has survived a fight with one and written about it.
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We may want to hold off on a Rider in Red paper until after we release the Rider in Red spell and imply that any similarities were due to "inspiration" from the encounter so no one connects the dots about how exactly our Apparition spell works.
 
NexusEye said:
We may want to hold off on a Rider in Red paper until after we release the Rider in Red spell and imply that any similarities were due to "inspiration" from the encounter so no one connects the dots about how exactly our Apparition spell works.
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It's probably still worth writing immediately (or as close as the AV book allows) to keep the "Fresh" bonus, even if we hold it unpublished for a year or three.
 
Andres said:
The Chaos enemy stuff is secret, as far as I'm aware, and tied to the Araby crusade lore. They may not have that focus in DL, and even if they did, they may not give those books to us on account of being secret and Chaos-related.
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I don't know about the canonicity of the Araby thing, but I seem to recall Boney saying that Myrmidia getting into the grand conclave was the result of the Knights of the Blazing Sun joining the Great War, and also I thought maybe the Aquila Academy was mentioned by name, but I searched the things and I can't find either of those things so maybe I hallucinated it.

@Boney, is Mathilde at all familiar with the Aquila Academy of Nuln? Were they involved in the Great War against Chaos?
 
BeepSmile said:
@Boney, there is a tinyyy problem. Eike has sworn a vow. A serious vow, very strict.
There's been mention of having her try to set up trade deals in Uluthan's port city that's open to non-elves. Just throwing out an idea, but would she be allowed to negotiate some Book purchases for our library?
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Explain to me what it is you think will interfere with Eike being able to do that.

mathymancer said:
I don't know about the canonicity of the Araby thing, but I seem to recall Boney saying that Myrmidia getting into the grand conclave was the result of the Knights of the Blazing Sun joining the Great War, and also I thought maybe the Aquila Academy was mentioned by name, but I searched the things and I can't find either of those things so maybe I hallucinated it.

@Boney, is Mathilde at all familiar with the Aquila Academy of Nuln? Were they involved in the Great War against Chaos?
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Yes. The current location of the Aquila Academy in Nuln was gifted to them by Magnus because the whole campus went north with him and only a third of them came back.
 
I like the idea of buying Nehekharan books for context on the coins - Mathilde likes learning, and putting things in context is a particularly enjoyable way to go about it. And delving deep into a variety of topics is just good for the mind in general!
 
Andres said:
The cult influences nearly every aspect of the Universität, the Imperial Gunnery School, the various colleges, and even what little magic finds support in the city.
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This provides some context on our little tiff with the Verenans. They don't just see themselves as the head book people, they've grown used to meddling in the scholarly affairs of their neighbours, and this whole deal breaks mightily against that.

By the way, I haven't updated their entry yet but I plan to. Just need to find the source that erroneously claims it has a library. Don't have access to my files at the moment though since I'm moving because of my landlord's illegal cuntery.
 
Why is it humans instead of elves who rule the Reik basin? The Eonir have been around for way longer, and there's plenty of forest to go around, so why are they limited to Laurelorn? And how did they get so outnumbered by the mortal primitives?
 
Boney said:
Explain to me what it is you think will interfere with Eike being able to do that.
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Oh I was sleepy, sorry. I think I was imagining that she wouldn't have the cash needed to get an appricable amount of interesting books, and then I was thinking of getting the libary to pay for it, but the mechanics don't quite mesh with that sort of thing and then I kinda threw out a non-usedul question, sozz.
 
Andres said:
Why is it humans instead of elves who rule the Reik basin? The Eonir have been around for way longer, and there's plenty of forest to go around, so why are they limited to Laurelorn? And how did they get so outnumbered by the mortal primitives?
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Because the dwarves genocided them and then many survivors went back to Ulthuan to fight the dark elves and died and then there was massive climatic disruption caused by the Slann that caused years of crop failure, and after then their numbers were too small to keep culling the beastmen and greenskins so they couldn't hold the land, and the pressure of continual war against them stopped their numbers from recovering via natural growth.

What happened in what would become Bretonnia is instructive. The elven colonists held the coasts and southern plains for centuries after the end of the War of Beard, but eventually a Waaagh that was too big for them to defeat emerged and they had to sell themselves to Athel Loren to defeat it. The Bretonni showed up a bit later and occupied the now empty land the orcs had driven the elves from.
 
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Andres said:
Why is it humans instead of elves who rule the Reik basin? The Eonir have been around for way longer, and there's plenty of forest to go around, so why are they limited to Laurelorn? And how did they get so outnumbered by the mortal primitives?
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At least according to Archives of the Empire Volume I, it's because the only reason the dwarfs stopped trying to kill the Eonir was that they couldn't breach into the Laurelorn despite trying real hard to do so, and when that failed they erected fortifications around the forest to box them in.

By the time the dwarfs were forced to abandon those forts due to the Age of Woes and the Eonir were able to expand again, they ran into the humans who had crept in during their absence.
 
Boney said:
Hard to say. The Cult of Verena isn't monolithic, but they do talk, and Mathilde doesn't know it well enough to say how much influence the Nuln branch has, or how much weight their word has.
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Which is to say that if we want inside information on the politics of the Cult of Verena, there's an open and largely-underutilised way to get it:

[ ] EIC: Insert agents into a particular province, cult, company, or institution to start gathering their secrets. (specify who)
 
Gavin Prince said:
Which is to say that if we want inside information on the politics of the Cult of Verena, there's an open and largely-underutilised way to get it:

[ ] EIC: Insert agents into a particular province, cult, company, or institution to start gathering their secrets. (specify who)
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A trading company into a religious cult? Of knowledge? That might be difficult...
 
Somic said:
A trading company into a religious cult? Of knowledge? That might be difficult...
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If cults weren't a viable option, they wouldn't be specifically listed as an option. Verenans need things just as much as regular people, because they are regular people. Selling paper, construction materials, incense, information, arms and armour for their attached knightly orders, etc or buying Verenan products for sale elsewhere are all ins that present a way to pick up gossip.
 
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BeepSmile said:
@Boney, there is a tinyyy problem. Eike has sworn a vow. A serious vow, very strict.
There's been mention of having her try to set up trade deals in Uluthan's port city that's open to non-elves. Just throwing out an idea, but would she be allowed to negotiate some Book purchases for our library?
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Actually, when are College Vows like Vow of Poverty or the Light Order celibacy vow sworn? Right at intake, during the Journeyman promotion, or somewhere in between? Some few students never become Wizards. Even fewer switch College before getting any Arcane Marks. I can't imagine that either category are expected to adhere to a lifetime vow, but I'd also be surprised if any of the vows have a clause along the lines of "for as long as I am a [color] Wizard".

Blackout said:
At least according to Archives of the Empire Volume I, it's because the only reason the dwarfs stopped trying to kill the Eonir was that they couldn't breach into the Laurelorn despite trying real hard to do so, and when that failed they erected fortifications around the forest to box them in.

By the time the dwarfs were forced to abandon those forts due to the Age of Woes and the Eonir were able to expand again, they ran into the humans who had crept in during their absence.
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I wonder what happened to those fortifications. They were presumably made to Dwarf specification. Did Humans take them apart for stone? If yes, are there any resulting Grudges or did the Dwarves consider above ground forts built far from mountains to be temporary anyway? Maybe I am just underestimating what kind of effect multiple millennia of weather has even on Dwarven construction.
 
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