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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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DragonParadox said:
Perhaps, but the forests of jagged crystal that constantly reshape, rivers of blood and quivering hills of flesh, not to mention the chaos warriors fighting their own younger or older selves are something even the high elves would... struggle to replicate. The wastes like daemon world in 40K are halfway into the imeterium.
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The High Elves didn't do any of that stuff to Saphery though. That's just how it is. If you consider the Wastes are much nearer a more powerful source of magic, it's not out of the realm of possibility that it has nothing to do with Chaos, and everything to do with large concentrations of magic's effect on existence.
 
ctulhuslp said:
Wait we actually have a WoG to this effect?

Now this is something worth sinking a lot of favours into.
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Yep, here it is.
BoneyM said:
Possible but tricky as hell. You wouldn't just be making a staff, you'd be making a staff and also trying to make it functional as an axe shaft. Axes and magical staffs are two skillsets that don't overlap very often, and it would need to overlap on a Grey Wizard. So to make this works Mathilde would learn not just how to wield, but also how to make axes.
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deathofrats0808 said:
The High Elves didn't do any of that stuff to Saphery though. That's just how it is. If you consider the Wastes are much nearer a more powerful source of magic, it's not out of the realm of possibility that it has nothing to do with Chaos, and everything to do with large concentrations of magic's effect on existence.
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If it looks like the realms of the Dark Gods and quacks like the realms of the Dark Gods then you are probably half-way into the realms of the Dark Gods... also Khorne's a duck. :V
 
BungieONI said:
I'd like to see this one because I don't remember it and I'm curious what it said.
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Here's the actual WoG for what I'm talking about:
TotallyNotEvil said:
Guys, something to consider is that we'd be leading the Watchmen... who patrol over Death Pass.

That's right, this is an once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be the founding Master of the Deathwatch.

Would an axe whose haft is good at grounding ulgu be better?

I mean, I don't want to detract from the killyness too much, but no harm in asking, right?
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BoneyM said:
As it merely needs to be sufficiently conductive that would be much easier, as you could just supply a suitable material to the blacksmith to use for the haft and then finish the job with a few carefully-placed runes.
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TotallyNotEvil said:
And it wouldn't detract from the death-muder-kill part?
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BoneyM said:
No, that would be contained in the head itself.
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Hmm I'm actually *kinda* warming up to this idea a little. Still want a greatsword for sentimental reasons and not going down the full Dwarf assimilation route but still, its got good backing so.
 
Yeah, my impression is "A grounding rod can probably be fused with an axe without much difficulty, but a full out Staff with the magic boosters and other shinies needs to be dedicated to that purpose"

I still do like the idea of an 'Athame' as our spell-casting bonus implement though.

Still.

If we wanted to get a tricked out axe to serve as our War Weapon (Which would double as a miscast-mitigater with the grounding rod for the haft), I think the Lochaber Axe would be a good choice. It would be relatively easy to pivot to from the greatsword we've been using up until now, is distinct from typical Dwarfen axes (But not in a way that makes them a completely alien choice of weapon), and more importantly, is a Great Weapon so we can use it to fight things that are bigger than us easily and use it to ground magic in a pinch.
 
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I think that instead of spending favor for a weapon and then spend actions learning how to use said weapon, we just master the weapon we already know how to use and get a magic dagger or something and spend actions exploring the shit around the area and researching
 
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Alectai said:
Yeah, my impression is "A grounding rod can probably be fused with an axe without much difficulty, but a full out Staff with the magic boosters and other shinies needs to be dedicated to that purpose"

I still do like the idea of an 'Athame' as our spell-casting bonus implement though.
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I think that an athame or similar knife might be too small for a staff and too inconvenient for an earthing rod.
 
Hmm...I thinking it through...I wouldn't mind putting up the sword we earned with Markus over our mantle and take up the Axe instead. Granted wouldn't get the +1 Magic and other bonuses from an actual Staff, but that would be a problem with our Greatsword too, and atleast this way we can cash in our Rep on The Best Runic Axe.
 
So while intentional or not I would like to talk about the beautiful parallelism between the penultimate fight for Drakenhof, where Al died, and the penultimate fight of the K8P expedition.

So the one of the most interesting things about these two fights is the reversal of ordering and roles. With Al it was charge, failure of allies, failure of the Divine. At Karag Nar it was success of the Divine, success of allies, and our observation.

At Drakenhof the forces of chaos managed a powerful blow against the forces of order while at Karag Nar the forces of good managed a powerful blow back.

At Drakenhof the enemy leader looked down upon our struggle and failure while at Nar we looked down on our allies success and glory.

At Drakenhof we had to charge our enemy. At Nar the enemy charged our allies.

At Drakenhof those we expected to succeed failed. At Nar those we honestly expected to crumple held strong.

At Drakenhof all could see our failure. At Nar no one bore witness to our success.

It is very interesting and almost mirror like. Nearly everything has been flipped between these two battles.

To me it's quite beautiful the fact that our votes focused on solving short term problem solving and the effectively random dice produced such a series of symbolically heavy events.

Beauty comes from patterns but patterns can arise from randomness.

Thank you BoneyM for creating such a beautiful piece of writing.
 
Varano said:
I think that instead of spending favor for a weapon and then learning how to use said weapon, we just master the weapon we already know how to use and get a magic dagger or something
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We do have word of QM that learning to use an axe will be quite fast, and we have access to some of the best teachers possible for axes, whereas there aren't really any greatsword wielders around. Plus a +1 magic athame is going to be yet another research project to get off the ground.

Also, I really want to see what Kragg comes up with.
 
BoneyM said:
either building your own or having an anonymous set of quarters tucked away underground somewhere... which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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#WhyNotBoth? :V
(Also, public office and private lab has worked for us before).
BoneyM said:
The Ulrican chapterhouse is in the Valley near the source of the Blood River, on the other end of that Underway tunnel from Death Pass. They'd still be firmly affiliated with K8P but politically independent.
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Oh, Ranald, theres going to be a friendly Knightly Order on the doorstep of the Border Princes too?
We really should have bought that Mathilde Weber, Border Warrior Magical Princess title. :V
 
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ctulhuslp said:
Idk I stand by 15 favours investment into wizard tower.

Dwarfs probably will be happy to ensure we don't blow up Karag Nar by experiments.
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Yeah, absolutely, the majority of our winnings and Favors needs to be spent on our Tower here to guarantee security.

(Also, about the whole "Oh no you can't put it on the top floor" complaint... I would argue that anything strong enough to endure the counter-battery fire from the Eight Peaks Anti-Air Defenses, punch through the best runic wards money and goodwill can buy, and then take a specific object, is going to be something that no amount of security would stop anyway, because at that point you're already arguably dealing with the direct intervention of a God sending an immortal champion to run down and take your stuff in particular. Putting it at the end of a gauntlet of dangers is good enough for anything short of that)
 
Neshuakadal said:
So while intentional or not I would like to talk about the beautiful parallelism between the penultimate fight for Drakenhof, where Al died, and the penultimate fight of the K8P expedition.
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I'll be honest, I mostly ignored most of your post after reading you call van Hal 'Al'. I drew far too much amusement from that.
 
Alectai said:
If we wanted to get a tricked out axe to serve as our War Weapon (Which would double as a miscast-mitigater with the grounding rod for the haft), I think the Lochaber Axe would be a good choice. It would be relatively easy to pivot to from the greatsword we've been using up until now, is distinct from typical Dwarfen axes (But not in a way that makes them a completely alien choice of weapon), and more importantly, is a Great Weapon so we can use it to fight things that are bigger than us easily and use it to ground magic in a pinch.
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That probably won't be our call. We'll burn favor to get An Axe and we'll get whatever is made for us based on the amount of Favor we spent. Honestly I'm really glad BoneyM does the Favor rewards as they do, because if we tried to ask for something more specific, we never would have gotten something as bullshit as our current Runic Belt.
 
Imagining the negaverse quest where Mathilde buddied up to the wood elves super hard. "So we spent 20 favors on getting a giant magical tree out in the middle of nowhere, hows about we carve it into the worlds largest wizard tower/staff combo!?"
 
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