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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
Eike's education

Dice 1: What is she best at?
Dice 2: What does she want to be best at?
Dice 3: What is she having trouble with?

1 - Diplomacy / 2 - Martial / 3 - Stewardship / 4 - Intrigue / 5 - Piety / 6 - Learning
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I had some misgivings about the tendency of some in the thread to assume that Eike is just going to want to follow in Mathilde's footsteps, but then a roll like this comes along and it's clear that it is Ranald's will that Eike be our apprentice.
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
Now this is interesting. Halétha has several faces, just like Her Father: Protector, Hunter, Midwife, Traveller. Hunter is clearly an imitation of the Night Prowler, and Traveller overlaps with Ranald the Dealer, whilst Midwife clearly comes from Her Mother. I wonder if the other sister is the same?
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The same in what sense? We do know that both daughters resemble their parents, with each resembling one more than the other. As you say yourself Halétha seems to have more in common in Ranald than Shallya, which was pretty obvious even before this conversation, so the other daughter should have more Shallya-adjacent spheres of influence.
Hydroplatypus said:
It seems that we're not the only one who knows about Ranald's daughters. It's a shame we don't know any other notable godesses that the hedgewise worship, as between Ranald, Haletha, and apparent knowledge of the other daughter it seems like the entire hedgewise might be a Ranald/Shallya family project. Shame that he isn't willing to share though.
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Some Hedgewise also worship Verena, said to be Shallya's mother. My original theory - literally my first post ever - was that one daughter was Halétha and the other was being worshipped as Verena. I don't think this theory holds up very well, though: I agree that the Hedgewise seem like they could be a family project, but I feel like as a group they take after Ranald far more than they do after Shallya, and the second daugther should resemble Shallya. Not impossible, though.

I'll post a more thourough examination of the text of the update as it pretains to the Hedgewise and Halétha in a bit. In the meantime:
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Man, the talk with the lector makes me really wanna start diving into controlling our arcane marks.

I feel like the +1 magic that will allow us to finally breach into 10 magic, does lie somewhere around there. Shadow and magic, not flesh and blood.

Though, doing AV actions might have more potential for now i suppose

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mathymancer said:
I had some misgivings about the tendency of some in the thread to assume that Eike is just going to want to follow in Mathilde's footsteps, but then a roll like this comes along and it's clear that it is Ranald's will that Eike be our apprentice.
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Duckling perfection.

It's like she met a larger than life figure at an impressionable age and decided "I want to be like her when I grow up"

(edit: down to finding out which classes Mathilde skived off)
 
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Mopman43 said:
At minimum, she's 1,000.

Jesus Christ. She might actually match Kragg for age.

Hell of a d6.
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...now I want to tell him. Can we get a social action next turn to tell Kragg? That humans have Living Ancestors actually, but it's just Kislev? Also maybe telling Thorek that this umgi is in fact his elder?

EDIT: WAIT SHIT SHE PREDATES KISLEV. I need to see a dwarf's realisation that she's technically an Ancestor God equivalent for Kislev, having the same kind of influence on it's culture probably.
 
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@Boney Thank you for the update. It was wonderful. I had a very good time reading it.

In regards to Niedzwenka, not only was I surprised at her age, but I couldn't help but chuckle remembering how I made a recent post about Waystone ages and I thought to myself "there isn't anyone as old as Gandalf. Hatalath would be Legolas, but who would be Gandalf?".
Codex said:
I came across an image on Twitter that made me chuckle and think of the Quest:
Waystone Project Ages Illustrated.
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Turns out that Niedzwenka could theoretically fit.

Anyways, time to vote.

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Shane_357 said:
...now I want to tell him. Can we get a social action next turn to tell Kragg? That humans have Living Ancestors actually, but it's just Kislev? Also maybe telling Thorek that this umgi is in fact his elder?
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Thanks to Nehekhara, there's something like four or five different flavours of even older magically-preserved Umgi that the Dwarves are already familiar with. Could bring that into double digits if you count different Vampire bloodlines separately.
 
Boney said:
It makes people forget what her face looks like. It's socially inconvenient but she's not getting deleted from history if she gets that Mark.
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Do you mean that its effects can be countered by wearing a name tag?

I never read it as being deleted from history, just quite literally being supernaturally forgettable. I'm mildly prosopagnosic, I can't remember anyone's face but recognizing people is still very much possible through a wide array of other details such as voice, gait, hair etc. If the mark makes face - and only face - forgettable I don't think the penalty would be so harsh.

IronFist said:
I think taking the "attempt to control your arcane marks" action might help reduce the thread's fear of that mark. I mean, it would still suck, but if we knew we could bring the marks somewhat under control and mitigate them, I suppose it might not be all bad.
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Ah, that's what you mean.

I suppose checking the literature on the matter won't hurt, as it's highly likely that the topic is extensively researched.
 
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Boney said:
Thanks to Nehekhara, there's something like four or five different flavours of even older magically-preserved Umgi that the Dwarves are already familiar with. Could bring that into double digits if you count different Vampire bloodlines separately.
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Yeah, but this one is a curmudgeonly old grandmother, so they can't just slot it into the same mental space as old elgi. No, this one behaves like they expect Living Ancestors to act which is the mindfuck.
 
Aule said:
Do you mean that its effects can be countered by wearing a name tag?

I never read it as being deleted from history, just quite literally being supernaturally forgettable. I'm mildly prosopagnosic, I can't remember anyone's face but recognizing people is still very much possible through a wide array of other details such as voice, gait, hair etc. If the mark makes face - and only face - forgettable I don't think the penalty would be so harsh.
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"Forgettable: People can't seem to remember your face. Characters who've met you must succeed on an Intelligence Test to recall who you are."

I suppose it's possible to interpret that as 'if they fail an Intelligence Test then they lose every memory they have of you', but it really doesn't seem like that's the intended meaning to me.

Shane_357 said:
Yeah, but this one is a curmudgeonly old grandmother, so they can't just slot it into the same mental space as old elgi. No, this one behaves like they expect Living Ancestors to act which is the mindfuck.
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Like bemoaning a lost golden age, constantly searching for lost relics of the past to restore their people's legacy, and doing what they can to prevent any further slide into oblivion? The Dwarves have probably encountered Khatep at least once, and that dude's even got a beard.
 
Huh, Eike is really impressive. Shaving of something between 1/6th and 1/3rd of the time of lowest estimate Mathilde made for her to graduate out of junior apprenticeship isn't a small feat. No wonder so many LMs are interested in her if you combine that with her being the heir to a major trading company.
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On one hand this is a big responsibility , but with the rolls for for interests and talents so far I really think that Mathilde would be the best teacher for her. And I really liked Eike whenever we saw her on screen and want to read more about her.
 
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Getting Eike as our apprentice would make her into a Grey with solid contacts amongst the Eonir, the Dawi, Humans, and with a good sense for both Diplomacy and Trade.
She's exactly what the Greys need for a future where we bring these kingdoms closer together.
 
IronFist said:
(edit: down to finding out which classes Mathilde skived off)
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The diplo weakness is expressed differently though.

Honestly, being a bad liar/open is far from the worst weakness, if she develops her research skills enough to be able to focus on that as a Magister.

That weakness, and her wanting to be a nerd does make me feel that there's no chance she's going to want to run the EIC full time.

...maybe as an analyst/spymaster, but not a buisness person.

Over the years we're going to have to help a little bit with the whole 'easy to read' thing, possibly a bit with how it'll help in making deals for uh... Research agreements? Access to books or support for projects?
 
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