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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
High-level Grey brawling is waving your hands around and then a hundred people get sucked into a screaming rift, or every person and object in a straight line the length of a battlefield gets cleaved in two.
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Fair enough. I guess I was just thinking of "brawling" as less "everything dies in one shot" and more sustained? Or at least able to be done on a slightly smaller scale as well, since the question kind of arose from the Patriarch duel which is a 1v1 thing.

Eh, it's not too important. Though now I really do want to make an Orb staff even more so we can do that sort of thing repeatedly. Even just a Pit of Shades equivalent for what our current staff can do with MMM would be hilarious. Maybe if we study liminal realms more…
 
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Boney said:
Then again, Winds are remarkably free of baggage, too. "You said that Ranald had wronged the Widow in some way," you probe.

"And now he seems to be making amends. You do not know the tale?" You shake your head. "The short of it is that the Widow and Her siblings were once much more than four, before Salyak had your Ranald interfere." She sighs, and closes her eyes again. "The details are ugly, and not to be shared with those outside Their service. In the aftermath They found us, the Gospodar. So perhaps it was for the best. But amends are still required."

You frown, considering that. "I thought Salyak was quite well established in Kislev."

"Salyak is easier to forgive," she says with a snort.
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Doing some re-reading, I'm left wondering if Baba Niedzwenka would be more amenable to talking about this than the Ice Witches.
 
Eisenhelm said:
Can I be reminded of when was Mathilde daemon-checked before ?
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With all the tests and experiments you've performed with the Aethyric Vitae, it's come time to bring in a Runesmith to examine the interactions between Runes and Vitae, foremost of all your hope that it could be used to rapidly charge Runes dependent on absorbing ambient magic. You've decided to...
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Quick edit: The last section of this before the vote bits, where we present papers + queekish dictionary to algard
 
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Going further on my own reread, and this time its a little disgraceful because I was actually in the discussion at this point but my memory is terrible sue me - Did we have anything specific in mind for something we could do with the goodwill we developed with the Longshanks?
 
LadyLynn said:
Going further on my own reread, and this time its a little disgraceful because I was actually in the discussion at this point but my memory is terrible sue me - Did we have anything specific in mind for something we could do with the goodwill we developed with the Longshanks?
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The goodwill was generated so we could acquire help in our next investigation in Ostermark. It helped us realise the nature of the problem most likely being spiritual in nature, but didn't really give us much else.
 
Codex said:
The goodwill was generated so we could acquire help in our next investigation in Ostermark. It helped us realise the nature of the problem most likely being spiritual in nature, but didn't really give us much else.
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I read a little further after my post and was promptly very embarrassed when I realized we'd asked the Longshanks for help immediately afterwards. Wow, my memory sure is something! xD

Iiii should probably just get to sleep, I don't think the lack of sleep is helping my brain do the brainy things.
 
@Boney Would doing a book exchange with Cython be a viable way to get copies of their books, wherein we provide the scribes for everything involved, and Cython gets a copy of everything in KAU? It does seem like they're just getting early patron access right now, being allowed to borrow and read our books but not own them.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
The daemon checking was a spell, not just a Hysh powerstone, so I'm not sure they would be able to use the Orb for that.
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Drat, there goes my plan to use the Hysh Orb as a massive flashbang. Or the Ulgu Orb as a smokescreen.
deathofrats0808 said:
Could wait until the next SP duel. They're all guaranteed to be there.
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This gives me an idea. I wonder, would it be legal to use an Orb of Sorcery for the Supreme Patriarch duel?
 
StormySky said:
@Boney Would doing a book exchange with Cython be a viable way to get copies of their books, wherein we provide the scribes for everything involved, and Cython gets a copy of everything in KAU? It does seem like they're just getting early patron access right now, being allowed to borrow and read our books but not own them.
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No. If you want access to Cython's books, either rope it into the library or come up with something that it actually wants and cannot get. Cython does not value knowledge in the abstract, it values knowledge that is directly related to the questions it currently has, and it knows that it is capable of getting access to books on those subjects because it is large and terrifyingly powerful and its goodwill is a valuable commodity.

NuclearConsensus said:
This gives me an idea. I wonder, would it be legal to use an Orb of Sorcery for the Supreme Patriarch duel?
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The more magical accoutrements you bring into the duel, the less respect you'd garner if you win. Being a Supreme Patriarch that is not respected by those under them is not a good way to have a successful term.
 
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Boney said:
The more magical accoutrements you bring into the duel, the less respect you'd garner if you win. Being a Supreme Patriarch that is not respected by those under them is not a good way to have a successful term.
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Interesting - I wonder if there's more respect given for use of magic items you at least enchanted yourself? I could see it go either way.

Not that this helps Mathilde much even in this hypothetical, given how much her combat style relies on Branulhune, which she distinctly did not make herself.
 
Ericwinter said:
Speaking of Mathilde's combat ability—not her reputation, I'll leave that for now, but actual ability—I have to say I kinda forgot about this:

Admittedly, we don't actually get to use it all that often—despite Mathilde using her Shadowsteed all the time for mundane stuff—but it is interesting to note that Mathilde, when mounted, gets 28 martial, and we haven't even finished her sword style or anything. That's heroic right there, and almost as dangerous as the Champion of Khorne. Stack some of her other spell bonuses, and Mathilde would be an absolute murderblender on a horse. After finishing Branarhune…
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Imagine what happens if you bind those red swordman apparitions then. Personally, i'd like that just for the tolkien callback, but it would be legitimately scary to have on a battle field 'surprise cavalry charge of heroic characters'. You know, even besides the fact that they'd be ringwraiths.

Plus, it would make for a nice Belegar NegaQuest update.
 
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Redshirt Army said:
Interesting - I wonder if there's more respect given for use of magic items you at least enchanted yourself? I could see it go either way.

Not that this helps Mathilde much even in this hypothetical, given how much her combat style relies on Branulhune, which she distinctly did not make herself.
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I imagine you've got respect as an enchanted for making the item, but not respect for your combat ability with it, and the former has little to do with the duel. If anything.

Like, showing up with an Orb-staff would have people amazed that you can make that, but it really doesn't affect how good you are as a Supreme Atriarch. Probably.
 
Ericwinter said:
That's like, six years away though? I kinda doubt it will take us twelve turns to get the Orbs made. Unless we are really lazy, at least.
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Sure, but Mathilde doesn't need to present them immediately after making them, and if you want to do the most flexing 90% of the LMs go to the duel.

Abhorsen said:
I'm pretty sure we can take out favor on loan against our rep, given we pay it back, right?
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I believe so, but Mathilde would ahve to specify what it's for, so people are shyign away from this because they want to just drop it as a fait accompli.
 
Boney said:
In an instant the Vitae detonates, and you fruitlessly try to blink away from your Magesight the bright afterimages of exploding energy. You run an eye over the scraps of energies already beginning to flow out of the room, and frown to yourself.
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Boney said:
And, as you've become aware, the moment of the creation of Winds is one that is rather blinding to mystical senses. How do you derive useful insight from an event that is over in a fraction of a second, is invisible to conventional senses, and is blinding to unconventional ones?
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This, perhaps, gives a useful design focus and goal for a Sevirscope beyond 'allow people without Magesight to see magic', whereby it could also perhaps meaningfully supplement Mathildes full-spectrum HDR ground-penetrating sense.
Something with the ability to retain after-images, or traces, or take snapshots, or similar.

Of course, I have no idea for the mechanism this would work by, nor for that matter for the 'basic' Sevirscope, so insert-Burrito-power-source here.
 
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Boney said:
I don't think you fully grasp how monumentally expensive a bribe this would turn out to be. Both the Empire and the Karaz Ankor would balk at paying anything like that much to hire Caledor Dragontamer for the Project, let alone some random Dragon.
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Understandable. Though, if Mathilde could actually mass copy the library, would it help securing Cython's cooperation in one / some / all of Mathilde's endeavours as long as their hoard is gifted copies of everything the library acquires?

The exact copying method shouldn't matter for the substance of the question, though if at least a theoretically possible one needs to be specified, how about if Mathilde, with cooperation with other Wizards / Runesmiths if required, succeeds in inventing a Battle Magic book copying spell which allows magical copying of books as fast and as large in number of books as caster's mind is able to handle, successfully enchants it into a Battle Magic altar with required number of Orbs of Sorcery and conduits from magic battery towers for nearly continuous operation, and gives it to be used by the We librarian capable of multitasking limited only by the number of spider bodies they have?
 
Boney said:
It detracts less, but it's still not as impressive as the Dragomas route of going out there empty-handed in just enough to preserve modesty.
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I feel like the only way an enchanted object could suitably impress would be if we let our opponent grab the Staff of Volans before actually fighting. And then somehow actually managing to beat a high level wizard armed with a massively powerful artifact.
 
myrix said:
Understandable. Though, if Mathilde could actually mass copy the library, would it help securing Cython's cooperation in one / some / all of Mathilde's endeavours as long as their hoard is gifted copies of everything the library acquires?
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No. See here:

Boney said:
Cython does not value knowledge in the abstract, it values knowledge that is directly related to the questions it currently has, and it knows that it is capable of getting access to books on those subjects because it is large and terrifyingly powerful and its goodwill is a valuable commodity.
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myrix said:
The exact copying method shouldn't matter for the substance of the question, though if at least a theoretically possible one needs to be specified, how about if Mathilde, with cooperation with other Wizards / Runesmiths if required, succeeds in inventing a Battle Magic book copying spell which allows magical copying of books as fast and as large in number of books as caster's mind is able to handle, successfully enchants it into a Battle Magic altar with required number of Orbs of Sorcery and conduits from magic battery towers for nearly continuous operation, and gives it to be used by the We librarian capable of multitasking limited only by the number of spider bodies they have?
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Spell creation requires a relevant trait.
 
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