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Speaking of languages, I've been wondering: What's the general consensus here on using AP to actively study languages? Worthwhile, or is it more efficient to stick with learning them via immersion?

For that matter, what language do you all think would be ideal to learn next?
Classical, Kislevite, High Nehekharan and Arcane Khazalid might be the ones that are worthwhile without already having specific books lined up.
So I know it's wildly early to be talking about this, but I have an Absolutely Deranged idea for next turn's actions and I would like to put it up on the town podium for you all to throw rotten vegetables at.
I mean... Your plan looks as decent as it can, considering that we are missing massive amounts of information on what will even be available, let alone urgent. Like, will Tindomiel or the Hedgewise ask for an AP each? Will 3+ directly interesting Waystone options open instead of <3 that represent beginnings of branching research paths? Will any of the other actions we do this turn roll in such a way that they might need follow-up actions? Will there be any unrelated emergencies or time sensitive events we don't yet know about?

Honestly, talking up whatever Socials you prefer seems like a more worthwhile endeavor. Right now we don't even know enough to clearly decide the book or purchase votes.
but from what I understand most of the old world languages that are commonly spoken today are mostly understandable to one another.

with Kislev being the big exception.

so I would put that as the next one to learn myself.
My understanding was that there's language groups. In the Old World those would be Classical-derived (Estalian and Tilean), Classical-Khazalid-Tribal (Bretonnian, Old and New Reikspiel, maybe Norscan), Khazalid (Norse and Fire included), Eltharin (all dialects), Kislevite (and Ungol?) and Dark Tongue (including Kurgan and maybe some Norscan).
 
We should also wait to see what kind of wizard she rolls to be before taking her as apprentice. She may just want to stay in a lab doing academic research. Or be a enchanter making a lot of money.
I want to take Eike on as an apprentice because Mathilde is the reason she chose Grey to begin with and she basically promised Wilhelmina that she'd teach Eike.

And because I want her as an apprentice.

Eike's specific interests are something to consider while teaching, not a reason to get her a different master entirely.
 
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Isn't a comet just a pebble with large chunks of ice? Maybe ask Kislev if they have something?
Well, the Celestials are all about 'Mundane thing + Being Really High -> Special Celestial Magics'. Mist + Being High -> Clouds. Some ice and rocks + Being High -> Comets. Dreams + Being High -> Prophecy. Walking across a fluffy rug in winter + Being High -> Lightning. Looking at stuff+ Being High -> Omens. Perfectly Good Wizard + Being High -> Celestial.

We can only praise Ranald that Hubert decided to take the being high part literal.
 
If we look at the only wizard master and apprentice relation that is shown on screen, i.e. Mathilde and Regimand, the specialities don't really matter all that much.
Regimand is an infiltrator/spymaster type, an is only occasionally stabby, while Mathilde does the infiltration thing only to get within stabbing distance.
What your master's specialization is does not have that much impact on what kind of wizard the apprentice turns out to be.

I'm pretty sure "Find the problem and hit it with a sword" does not appear anywhere on Regimand's "How to Grey Wizard" book
 
Also Regimand disappeared from time to time during Mathilde's apprenticeship and arranged for other wizards to tutor her in his place. If he can find the time to infiltrate multiple chaos cults simultaneously and give Mathilde a good education, we can do the same with Eike and the Waystone Project.
 
I honestly don't think Eike 'speciality' matters all that much.

or to be more specific, by the time it matters, she will be off on her journey already.

Mathy was a bit green for an electer adviser, but she was typical of a new Journeyman.

so think of Eike as having around the same 'starting exp' and 'trait picks' as mathy had.

and our input is to help 'pick' the traits, and influence how much that starting exp is.

do a good job and eike will be buff 'for a new journeyman' e.g 4 traits instead of 2 or some rareer traits, some extra skill levels, and extra spell etc etc.

do a bad job and she will 'be bad for a new journeyman'

but what she won't be is 'buff' enough to walk out the door and turnaround to take her exam.
 
I want to take Eike on as an apprentice because Mathilde is the reason she chose Grey to begin with and she basically promised Wilhelmine that she'd teach Eike.

And because I want her as an apprentice.

Eike's specific interests are something to consider while teaching, not a reason to get her a different master entirely.
Normally this wouldn't matter, but considering that there is a different character named Wilhelmine, I think it should be pointed out that Eike's grandmother is Wilhelmina.

Somewhat ironic that their names have only a single letter difference and they're both economic specialists. I'd like to think they'd either hit it off or be at each other's throats. I'd like to see that.
 
Normally this wouldn't matter, but considering that there is a different character named Wilhelmine, I think it should be pointed out that Eike's grandmother is Wilhelmina.

Somewhat ironic that their names have only a single letter difference and they're both economic specialists. I'd like to think they'd either hit it off or be at each other's throats. I'd like to see that.
They're probably going to butt heads when it comes to Eike's tithe
 
They're probably going to butt heads when it comes to Eike's tithe
As long as Wilhelmina is alive, maybe even as long as Mathilde is alive, Eike might officially just get a normal stipend from the EIC instead of a percentage cut of the profits. And after that, well, I do hope that we are able to outlive someone who was a talented Grey Wizard in the days of Dieter IV.
 
Something I realised recently is that Wilhelmine (the bursar) was probably a contemporary of Saint Grey, the Ranaldian Grey Wizard who sped across the countryside on a shadowsteed to warn journeymen that magic had been outlawed and that the witch Hunters were coming for them.
 
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Something I realised recently is that Wilhelmine (the bursar) was probably a contemporary of Saint Grey, the Ranaldian Grey Wizard who speed across the countryside on a shadowsteed to warn journeymen that magic had been outlawed and that the witch Hunters were coming for them.
Wasn't Wilhemine the person who stole Sigmar's hammer from Dieter? If so she was definitely a contemporary of St. Grey.
 
Normally this wouldn't matter, but considering that there is a different character named Wilhelmine, I think it should be pointed out that Eike's grandmother is Wilhelmina.

Somewhat ironic that their names have only a single letter difference and they're both economic specialists. I'd like to think they'd either hit it off or be at each other's throats. I'd like to see that.
I mean, do we have any proof that some decades ago Wilhelmine/a wasn't subjected to that 'split into two people' effect?


I'd ask if anyone had seen them both in the same place at the same time, but that would hardly be an impediment to a Grey Magister Lord.:p
 
It's Ranald, if 90% of his recent Saints haven't just faked their deaths and are still doing things elsewhere, I'd be very suprised.
iirc, prayers/faith aimed towards dead Saints empower said Saint's god. If someone prays towards a "Saint" that is actually a living person, that prayer is wasted and the assoicated god gets nothing.

Edit: oh yeah, 'Venerated soul' is the term. Cheers valmond :)
 
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I mean it is not like there is a formal church of Ranald. As far as I can see all Saint Grey would have to be is recognized by her peers in the College and in the faith, which given her deeds she certainly would be... then again I am not sure if she would have had reason to hide like that and call herself Saint Grey if it were the case. I mean who would she be hiding from, the story is already internal.

Most likely they are two people, as hilarious as it would be to be delivered that fish speech by a saint of the God of Thieves. :V
 
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I'm starting to believe that stories were very different back in the 50's. I think I've read 10+ pages of Gandalf and Frodo talking to each other and providing exposition. This is certainly new to me. Is this just an LOTR quirk?
 
I'm starting to believe that stories were very different back in the 50's. I think I've read 10+ pages of Gandalf and Frodo talking to each other and providing exposition. This is certainly new to me. Is this just an LOTR quirk?

That is more the start of the book being slow than anything, it does have a point though. The idea is to ground the reader in the bucolic hobbit land before sending them all off on Adventure with all its marvels and its hardships. The fact that one is seeing all that stuff from a hobbit's eye view as well as how they are affected by it is very much part of the theme.
 
I mean it is not like there is a formal church of Ranald. As far as I can see all Saint Grey would have to be is recognized by her peers in the College and in the faith, which given her deeds she certainly would be... then again I am not sure if she would have had reason to hide like that and call herself Saint Grey if it were the case. I mean who would she be hiding from, the story is already internal.

Most likely they are two people, as hilarious as it would be to be delivered that fish speech by a saint of the God of Thieves. :V

According to the Wiki, Venerated Souls have to be declared as such by the Conclave, and it has to be a unanimous vote by all the cults involved. Ranald's cult always has a presence at the Conclave (even though the organisers change the location each year to try to keep them out) so a High Priest of Ranald could potentially get any number of people venerated simply by threatening to Veto every other nomination.
 
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