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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Mopman43 said:
Can you quote the passage that says there's a child of the Oak of Ages there?
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Do you mean the acorn or that the Asari gave the Eonir the acorn? Or do you mean that the acorn Mathilde bought? Because yes it is jumping the gun but I do not see it being anything but a acorn from the Oak of ages since it seems what is described a acorn from the oak of ages would be.
 
Nurgle said:
Do you mean the acorn or that the Asari gave the Eonir the acorn? Or do you mean that the acorn Mathilde bought? Because yes it is jumping the gun but I do not see it being anything but a acorn from the Oak of ages since it seems what is described a acorn from the oak of ages would be.
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That the Eonir got an Acorn and built the city around it.


I agree that what Mathilde bought certainly seems like an Acorn from the Oak of Ages.
 
Never has there been a mention of an Acorn being used for the Eonir either in DL or in 4th Edition Archives. Maybe it's some sort of confusion from Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism, where the Eonir there are basically an Asrai offshoot.
 
Mopman43 said:
That the Eonir got an Acorn and built the city around it.


I agree that what Mathilde bought certainly seems like an Acorn from the Oak of Ages.
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Huh you may be right I am trying to read through several passages when Mathilde first started acting with the Eonir. I was sure they told us that. Or I just assume with the giant tree in the city it was used. The reason being you can plant a acorn and it turns into a Forrest. But best to go to the ultimate authority.

@Boney did the Asari give the Eonir a acorn and they build a city around it.
 
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Nurgle said:
Huh you may be right I am trying to read through several passages when Mathilde first started acting with the Eonir. I was sure they told us that. Or I just assume with the giant tree in the city it was used. But best to go to the ultimate authority.
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Are you referring to this tree?
Boney said:
Tor Lithanel has very many open green areas, but the Agora is foremost of them all. Located at the centre of the city and flanked on one side by the Queen's Silver Tower and on the other by the Temple of Asuryan, the only break in the otherwise open space is a single golden-veined lornalim towering high enough to make a bid for Tor Lithanel's fourth tower,
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That's all that's been said about it. It's just a giant Lornalim Ithil, which if you remember, Cadaeth explained to us that it's a type of tree that feeds off silver. Lornalim Lauroi feeds off gold. The Oak of Ages is not a Lornalim Ithil as far as I know, and this tree probably doesn't even have a connection to it. If I had to take a guess, Laurelorn has a giant silver/gold deposit underneath that the trees feed on, and this tree is on a locus.
 
Codex said:
Are you referring to this tree?

That's all that's been said about it. It's just a giant Lornalim Ithil, which if you remember, Cadaeth explained to us that it's a type of tree that feeds off silver. Lornalim Lauroi feeds off gold. The Oak of Ages is not a Lornalim Ithil as far as I know, and this tree probably doesn't even have a connection to it. If I had to take a guess, Laurelorn has a giant silver/gold deposit underneath that the trees feed on, and this tree is on a locus.
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Maybe it is getting hard to keep track of all the information these quest. I may need to start keeping notes and a folder on my labtop.
 
I was and am still planning a comprehensive Laurelorn post but I keep getting sidetracked. Strong mood swings can drain productivity hard. I hope to get it out sometime in the future at least.
 
Codex said:
Are you referring to this tree?

That's all that's been said about it. It's just a giant Lornalim Ithil, which if you remember, Cadaeth explained to us that it's a type of tree that feeds off silver. Lornalim Lauroi feeds off gold. The Oak of Ages is not a Lornalim Ithil as far as I know, and this tree probably doesn't even have a connection to it. If I had to take a guess, Laurelorn has a giant silver/gold deposit underneath that the trees feed on, and this tree is on a locus.
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Though, thinking on it, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if children of the Oak of Ages have the potential to serve in a Waystone-ish role. The OoA itself certainly has something of that.
 
Mopman43 said:
Though, thinking on it, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if children of the Oak of Ages have the potential to serve in a Waystone-ish role. The OoA itself certainly has something of that.
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If I were to take a guess, magical forests might serve the same metaphysical role as real forests that burn off carbon and sustain the environment. I'm pretty sure the Oak has some metaphysical properties to sustain the Weave, considering that's the entirety of the purpose of the Asrai. To protect reality through maintaining their forest.
 
Mopman43 said:
Though, thinking on it, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if children of the Oak of Ages have the potential to serve in a Waystone-ish role. The OoA itself certainly has something of that.
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The OoA in general has always kind of done it's own thing in Warhammer lore. Not really being restricted to any of the meta rules that everything else does.

Waystone? Yes.

Fast travel? Why not!

The physical manifestation of all life… ok, there are, like, 6 different things from every other lore source that makes that problematic, but let's roll with it!

It's one of the big offenders of 'it does a thing! Why? Because fuck you, that's why'
 
My bet is forests are kind of like dampeners to the powers of the warp and the winds of magic, they are these big blobs of Ghyan and Ghur that swallow up Dhar and let it dissipate. A healthy forest (so one with no beastmen) is filled with the sheer weight of emotions and life of its inhabitants, it is a place in balance in ways that are anathema to chaos. The existence of the fey as native warp spirits probably ties into that, I mean like apparitions they have to feed on something.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
The OoA in general has always kind of done it's own thing in Warhammer lore. Not really being restricted to any of the meta rules that everything else does.

Waystone? Yes.

Fast travel? Why not!

The physical manifestation of all life… ok, there are, like, 6 different things from every other lore source that makes that problematic, but let's roll with it!

It's one of the big offenders of 'it does a thing! Why? Because fuck you, that's why'
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Let's also not forget that 8th Edition added an unnecessary piece of lore on page 63 of Wood Elves that turned the tree into a possible existential threat for the entire world in an offhand manner:

"The Oak of Ages grows acorns all year round, but sheds them only when Ghyran, the Wind of Life, reaches its height. These magical seeds are diligently gathered by Ariel's handmaidens, and planted in those regions ofthe forest that have been ravaged by war or wildfire. Such is the bountiful magic in these acorns that they can grow from seed to sapling, to towering oak in a matter of seconds. This magic too is the reason that the seeds must be gathered swiftly upon their fall. The last squirrel that consumed an acorn from the Oak of Ages stomped much of King's Glade flat, and was brougfit down only by the combined armies of three high realms."

A squirrel eating an acorn is apparently so much of a threat that it takes three Athel Loren armies to take down. That's just ridiculous.
 
Nurgle said:
Huh you may be right I am trying to read through several passages when Mathilde first started acting with the Eonir. I was sure they told us that. Or I just assume with the giant tree in the city it was used. The reason being you can plant a acorn and it turns into a Forrest. But best to go to the ultimate authority.

@Boney did the Asari give the Eonir a acorn and they build a city around it.
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Not in DL. As @Codex cited, the central tree of Tor Lithanel is a Lornalim, which is a type of conifer. Did a quick search of DoDA and sure enough:

"Laurelocraobh is the hall of our Kindred's nobility," Sunweaver goes on, "Greatest of trees in all of Laurelorn, though of course nothing compared to the Oak of Ages."

"I grew Laurelocraobh myself from an acorn plucked from the Oak of Ages!"

Both quests started incorporating Laurelorn before 4e's Archives of the Empire 1 was published, and with only a few scraps of canonical information to work with we ended up with very different depictions of it.

Codex said:
Let's also not forget that 8th Edition added an unnecessary piece of lore on page 63 of Wood Elves that turned the tree into a possible existential threat for the entire world in an offhand manner:

"The Oak of Ages grows acorns all year round, but sheds them only when Ghyran, the Wind of Life, reaches its height. These magical seeds are diligently gathered by Ariel's handmaidens, and planted in those regions ofthe forest that have been ravaged by war or wildfire. Such is the bountiful magic in these acorns that they can grow from seed to sapling, to towering oak in a matter of seconds. This magic too is the reason that the seeds must be gathered swiftly upon their fall. The last squirrel that consumed an acorn from the Oak of Ages stomped much of King's Glade flat, and was brougfit down only by the combined armies of three high realms."

A squirrel eating an acorn is apparently so much of a threat that it takes three Athel Loren armies to take down. That's just ridiculous.
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I think this is supposed to be a cute reference to Ratatoskr, the squirrel of the world-tree Yggdrasil in Norse mythology, but they were unable to help themselves and made it stupid and grimdark.
 
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