Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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There's a small chance that she'll notice us stalking her. There's a certainty that she'll notice us interfering with her spellcasters.
No, I really don't think there is a certainty she'll notice us. Obviously Mathilde isn't going to be hidden while fighting the spellcasters, but there's a lot going on in a battle and Drycha can't follow all of it. There are numerous other things that can draw her attention, like the three other spellcasters, and the man she believes to be her target. And going after her personally is the kind of thing that might draw her personal attention.
I actually really like this plan, although I wouldn't lock it down to only Boris. Standing ready to teleport in to counter ambush would potentially be very cool.
The problem is the combination of Teleportation, Invisibility, Illusion to look like someone else, Cloak Activity so we can't notice the attack, the spell that causes Terror, and potentially even Mindrazor allowing her to one hit kill makes me worry that even if we're watching our for her we could still be too late to intervene when she strikes.
[x] Spellcasters
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[X] Empty the dragonflask on the spellcasters
I'm hoping that this will enable us to hit all of the spellcasters, who are wood I believe. Then if any survive we will be alerting the Kislevites that they are priority targets.
The way I see it is that there are several potential threats: the treeman, the manticore, the spellcasters and Drycha. The first two are already being responded to and while we can help out that will leave the other threats unaddressed. My personal view is that we can deal with the spellcasters, and thus remove their threat faster than Drycha.
While this does leave Drycha free to do her thing, in terms of momentum change I am counting on it being countered by the arrival of the Tsar.
Tldr: I think that the spellcasters enables us to do the most impact the quickest
I'm hoping that this will enable us to hit all of the spellcasters, who are wood I believe. Then if any survive we will be alerting the Kislevites that they are priority targets.
The way I see it is that there are several potential threats: the treeman, the manticore, the spellcasters and Drycha. The first two are already being responded to and while we can help out that will leave the other threats unaddressed. My personal view is that we can deal with the spellcasters, and thus remove their threat faster than Drycha.
While this does leave Drycha free to do her thing, in terms of momentum change I am counting on it being countered by the arrival of the Tsar.
Tldr: I think that the spellcasters enables us to do the most impact the quickest
pucflek
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I don't know, i just sort of assume that the worst Drycha can immediately do is kill a squad or two, drop a pit of shades maybe.
Maybe i am overestimating the branchwraiths? I assumed they are going for Encore of Huorns at Helms Deep. Which feels lot more dangerous to the entire army. Sure, if we lose Boris that will be bad, but if several pulks die because some weird wizard dragged them into it, then thats even worse.
Maybe i am overestimating the branchwraiths? I assumed they are going for Encore of Huorns at Helms Deep. Which feels lot more dangerous to the entire army. Sure, if we lose Boris that will be bad, but if several pulks die because some weird wizard dragged them into it, then thats even worse.
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Well, okay, I suppose there's a chance she fails the Spot Check to notice a trio of her battle casters getting ganked, on a Nat 1 or something, but if you think that Drycha will miss us killing her magical support, but will notice us setting up to ambush her, you're being disingenuous.
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Your suggestion is that the Ulgu spellcaster won't notice us throwing around enormous amounts of Ulgu when no one apart from her on the battlefield should be capable of using it? As that's what taking our there three Branchwraiths quickly would require.
If we were attacking her, she'd still sense the Ulgu, but as she felt it we'd be behind her swinging Branhule.
Drycha casting Pit of Shades or Mindrazor is probably much more consequential in the battlefield than what three branchwraiths can manage.
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She might well become aware that there is another Ulgu caster. That doesn't mean that she will prioritize said caster over her main target, the giant Ice monster, the army currently fighting her army, the second army that appears out of nowhere etc.
If we go after Drycha then she will definitely focus on us. If Drycha decides to try gank us, between the seed and the belt we should be able to survive, and such an event will draw eye so I suspect we will be getting aid.
No, I'm not saying she won't literally see Mathilde - that's why I said Mathilde isn't going to be hidden. I'm saying that she's going to distracted by the many other things going on and she won't be focus on countering Mathilde out of everyone. Again, each of the Ice Witches is currently seriously hindering the enemy forces, and it is not at all obvious that Mathilde should be her first target out of the four.
EDIT: Webered. Basically what @VoiceOfTheRiders said.
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I doubt that. If the Forest actually wakes up then its deep shit time, because thats the sort of stuff armies don't walk away from. But maybe i really am overestimating them because i misunderstand what Boney was describing they were trying to do.
Mopman43
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Giant Ice monster?
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On the one hand, a chance to find Drycha is not something we can fail to pounce on, because quite simply if we don't go then she'll have freedom to do what she wants and that sounds very bad. On the other hand, the Forest of Shadows is fucking evil enough that I count the fact it dislikes her as a character reference in her favor, one of the top ten places in the Old World that deserve to be turned into parking lots for sure.
On the one hand, a chance to find Drycha is not something we can fail to pounce on, because quite simply if we don't go then she'll have freedom to do what she wants and that sounds very bad. On the other hand, the Forest of Shadows is fucking evil enough that I count the fact it dislikes her as a character reference in her favor, one of the top ten places in the Old World that deserve to be turned into parking lots for sure.
Drycha Quest turn two
A loremaster skilled in shadow magic as come out of hiding and has TP'd to your spellcasters. She is likely going to keep them tied up, or worst kill them and move on to the next key ally.
[] keep on target
'Trust your spellcasters to hold out against the swordswoman for as long as possible.
[] change priorities to the Loremaster
'No, you are the only one that has the ability to keep up with this new threat if she proves dangerous, she is currently tied down among your ranks and away from hers, it's better to TP over there now instead of letting her have free rain to do her mischief.
What would you pick if you where Drycha quest? Because I would go for the shadow magic user before she does to much damage. Every other fight is equal or to my advantage.
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Mopman43
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I mean, the Forest of Shadows contains numerous terrible things (the Blood Fane, Beastmen, Melkhior/Zacharias, etc) but I'm not sure that the Forest itself is at fault?
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Remember eshin friend? Just because we're using ulgu doesn't mean we're painting a target on ourselves for other Ulgu users. Really doesn't work that way.
Especially not if the forest is helping us, which so far it actively has been. The forest which has its own Spites that Drycha can't use because she's no friend to it.
Odds that it sends what it's got to help dogpile Drycha when we catch her out alone in the forest of shadows? Better than you might think. It's waiting for the right moment just like we are -
And Drycha has no idea.
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Ljiljana. She is definitly preparing to engage the Treeman and while she might be casting other magic, her transformation is I think quite likely what she is planning to do.
Drycha is very well aware of how dangerous teleporting Ulgu mages with one hit kill weapons are. She probably is one herself.
As a result, if Mathilde reveals herself to be that, she is going straight to the top of the list of threats that need removing, and the best way to kill a teleporting Ulgu wizard is another teleporting Ulgu wizard, herself.
If she still prioritises other targets on the battlefield because she considers them higher value, that's still a thing we need to prevent by attacking her first, as she might be right, and we don't want her killing our allies and weakening our forces while they're busy fighting something like else.
If she targets and kills Mathilde while Mathilde is distracted, that's a very bad thing. If she targets and kills other valuable units of the army while Mathilde is distracted, that's also a bad thing. If she successfully does something to the forest that is currently keeping her from engaging, that's also very likely a bad thing.
Hence why we don't surrender the initiative to her. You're right, Drycha could choose not to attack Mathilde. We, however, don't want to give her that choice, as anything she chooses to do would be bad for us. We want to deny her the ability to choose to do anything and instead force her to act on our terms.
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I'm not sure how you arranged for a situation where "The Winged
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Re Drycha battlemagic. Remeber that regardless of who Dycha's actual target is, she has still chosen to make use of an army and to find her target in battle using said army. Leaving Drycha alone isn't an auto loss
Yes it is. As demonstrated by both the substantial amount of forest spirits currently trying to kill us, and the apparent ability to just rat out Drycha's hiding spot, forests could help fight those things if they wanted. They just don't give a fuck, and probably consider the killing of men who might otherwise chop wood beneficial.
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Mopman43
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The Forest Spirits are Drycha's, they aren't locals.
Some (presumed) amount of ability does not necessarily mean it could unilaterally attack threats.