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What's ETA on the Katarina kid? Would be funny if the conception is this period portrayed in a very shaded throwaway line, like Mathilde describing Boris' bed as luxurious in it's lumps when in reality it was Nadezha hiding under the covers. Something like that.
If Mathilde can't detect a panicking lustful and/or highly annoyed ice witch with her windsight, we either have enormous and urgent concerns about Darth Sidious casting a shadow over the force, or we desperately need to hit her up for magical stealth lessons.
 
Believe they've been renamed to Akshina in the new material.

Yeah, 'new' here meaning 'released within the last twelve hours'.

Point, but in this particular case (tsarevitch) they are entirely correct. "Tsesarevitsch" carries in itself evidence of westernisation. You can't get one without a Peter the Great figure who changes his title from Tsar to Imperator.

The distinction as I understand it, which is entirely taught to me by Professor Google so it might be entirely wrong, is that 'Tsarevich' means 'son of a tsar' whereas 'Tsesarevich' means 'current heir of the tsar'. In which case a Pavel that isn't related to Kattarin but did seek to usurp her, or was indirectly related to her and was heir from being a grandson or great-nephew or something, could sort of fit the title 'Tsesarevich' but not 'Tsarevich'.
 
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Yeah, 'new' here meaning 'released within the last twelve hours'.



The distinction as I understand it, which is entirely taught to me by Professor Google so it might be entirely wrong, is that 'Tsarevich' means 'son of a tsar' whereas 'Tsesarevich' means 'current heir of the tsar'. In which case a Pavel that isn't related to Kattarin but did seek to usurp her could sort of fit the title 'Tsesarevich' but not 'Tsarevich'.
It's quite a bit more complex than that. These are terms from different historical periods. In pre-petrine times, there was only "tsarevitch", and it did indeed mean "son of tsar". Then there came Peter and changed his title to "Imperator", which necessitated new titles for his family, and so his daughters got a new title "tsesarevna", which is the female form if tsesarevitch (he had no living legitimate sons at that point). And "tsarevitch" officially stopped being a thing (It still was used informally, though.) Which members of imperial family got the right to be titled "tsesarevitch" flip-flopped a bit until in 1797 Pavel the First decreed that it was to be the title of the heir to the throne, and that decree persisted until the end of the empire. Even if Pavel broke it just two years later by awarding the title to his second son as well as the first.

So, initially "tsesarevitch" was literally "tsarevitch, but westernised a bit", and that shows in the spelling. It was never intended to mean a different thing, only to supplant the earlier term.
 
You know, I'm half-expecting this to end with Tzar Vladimir mortally wounded and it being put to vote whether Mathilde tells Boris about the Seed or not.
 
It's quite a bit more complex than that. These are terms from different historical periods. In pre-petrine times, there was only "tsarevitch", and it did indeed mean "son of tsar". Then there came Peter and changed his title to "Imperator", which necessitated new titles for his family, and so his daughters got a new title "tsesarevna", which is the female form if tsesarevitch (he had no living legitimate sons at that point). And "tsarevitch" officially stopped being a thing (It still was used informally, though.) Which members of imperial family got the right to be titled "tsesarevitch" flip-flopped a bit until in 1797 Pavel the First decreed that it was to be the title of the heir to the throne, and that decree persisted until the end of the empire. Even if Pavel broke it just two years later by awarding the title to his second son as well as the first.

So, initially "tsesarevitch" was literally "tsarevitch, but westernised a bit", and that shows in the spelling. It was never intended to mean a different thing, only to supplant the earlier term.

Interesting, that's a lot more complicated than I realized. Thanks for the information.

And I am just now learning that Russian history had a Tsar Pavel with questions about his parentage, uncertainties about his inheritance, and a very short reign. He was even the patron of a templar organization. I've only ever heard of him before as the anglicized Paul.
 
You know, I'm half-expecting this to end with Tzar Vladimir mortally wounded and it being put to vote whether Mathilde tells Boris about the Seed or not.
And I hope we vote unified for saving the man (or that there isn't a vote at all) because as much as we know that Boris will be a better tsar, Mathilde can only guess and should not make decisions for other countries. Imagine the shitstorm if it came out that we could have healed him easily.
 
Warhammer lore: if it's not surprising you with how lazy it is, it's surprising you with how well researched it is.

There is no in-between.
Happens when the whole franchise gets revamped every 5 years and the writers go from cheap jokes, to actually dedication to making money mindset and switching between all three while also changing writers every so often. And creative leads. And visions for how the product should work. And when your joke side franchise suddenly makes you more money then your starting one. Also video games.
 
he says he has seen where putting faith in pale women with cold skin and strange magics leads
So this would have been a main source of tension if we chose to do the waystone project at kislev.

Wonder how the Tzar would react to Mathilde, a mysterious pale woman with strange magics, that also wears a witch hunter's hat and has defeated many vampires.

One way to find out -
[X] War Council
 
And I hope we vote unified for saving the man (or that there isn't a vote at all) because as much as we know that Boris will be a better tsar, Mathilde can only guess and should not make decisions for other countries. Imagine the shitstorm if it came out that we could have healed him easily.
I'm not advocating for deliberately setting up the Tzar's death, but I think it should be noted that healing the Tzar is literally making a decision for another country. We explicitly came here out of our own volition. There is literally no treaty or obligation or oath that we are following here. We haven't been employed by Kislev officially. Theoretically, they have no right to give us any orders, even Boris was surprised at Mathilde coming here. Her decisions are her own, and while others might resent her for not doing something, how the hell would any of them know of her exact capabilities? She's literally never used her Seed on anyone else throughout the story, just herself.

If we were in the middle of the fight standing by Boris and Vladimir is in the thick of the fighting and he dies, then I am not voting for us to rush into a death trap to revive Vladimir and leave Boris open for assassination. Hell, I would save the four charges we have for Mathilde and Boris first, and Vladimir second. He's not my first priority for the Seed's limited charges.
 
I'm not advocating for deliberately setting up the Tzar's death, but I think it should be noted that healing the Tzar is literally making a decision for another country. We explicitly came her out of our own volition. There is literally no treaty or obligation or oath that we are following here. We haven't been employed by Kislev officially. Theoretically, they have no right to give us any orders, even Boris was surprised at Mathilde coming here. Her decisions are her own, and while others might resent her for not doing something, how the hell would any of them know of her exact capabilities? She's literally never used her Seed on anyone else throughout the story, just herself.

If we were in the middle of the fight standing by Boris and Vladimir is in the thick of the fighting and he dies, then I am not voting for us to rush into a death trap to revive Vladimir and leave Boris open for assassination. Hell, I would save the four charges we have for Mathilde and Boris first, and Vladimir second. He's not my first priority for the Seed's limited charges.
I didn't mean in battle healing while risking our life. No one will judge us for putting our life first but if the choice arises of healing him or letting him die and there's no interference? At that point voting against using the seed would make me think very badly about the thread...
And yes, we have no obligation but you like Boris, right? Now imagine what Boris would say if it later comes out we could have healed his father with a little application of prepared magic. Just imagine. Because no one knows our exact capabilities (except the jade order who made the seed) but that can change.
 
I didn't mean in battle healing while risking our life. No one will judge us for putting our life first but if the choice arises of healing him or letting him die and there's no interference? At that point voting against using the seed would make me think very badly about the thread...
And yes, we have no obligation but you like Boris, right? Now imagine what Boris would say if it later comes out we could have healed his father with a little application of prepared magic. Just imagine. Because no one knows our exact capabilities (except the jade order who made the seed) but that can change.
The seed has a very limited time to revive the dead. It only works on the recently dead, which is why we had a time limit on finding Gotrek's body before we gave up. We couldn't revive him at that point, even if we found his body. If the Tzar dies in a peaceful moment where we won't have to risk out lives, great, but the assumption I'm working on is that doesn't necessarily have a high chance of happening. By the time the battle ends he wouldn't be revivable.
 
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