I think we should save Mathilde's personal funds. She has a very expensive laboratory still to equip, and what's the point of spending personal funds this turn when she'll have plenty of opportunity to spend Library funds in future turns?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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I think we should save Mathilde's personal funds. She has a very expensive laboratory still to equip, and what's the point of spending personal funds this turn when she'll have plenty of opportunity to spend Library funds in future turns?
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
So I guess the one we chose is the one where it is hardest to answer how architecture changes the equation and how choices are made that are incompatible with the choices that would have been made for another option.
Or do you actually already have something (semi-)specific in mind and the focus on library categorization instead of the work of the actual architects we "socialed" was for a completely different reason?
- Location
- USA
The point is that she's spending personal funds to kit out her Wizard's Tower personal library instead of indulging in graft with Library funds meant for the Kvinn-Wyr Library?
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Not exactly the Dewey Decimal but it will serve.
I have to wonder what their reaction was to learning that their biggest customer (by several magnitudes) was upgrading from 'personal book hoard' to 'Grand Library'.
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
- Location
- Jerkville
Khazakun Kazakit-ha?
TimEd
Meteor maker
This gives our Library immediate renown though. And as is typical Mathilde fashion, we can just smile and nod our way to filling in all the other necessities just before someone decides that they want to look into that section.
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- Earth
We furnished the living spaces, not the laboratory.
oh shoot your right I could have sworn we had but we did not, think it was cause we wanted to wait for the runesmiths to arrive before doing it right?
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
We have broken the dwarf favor system. Does that mean that AV is now our only source of dwarf favor?
- Location
- Poland
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There is a dwarf quest which, in previous edition, rolled so well as to find a whole a whole wall of gromril in their hold (except here they have no warpstone to worry about).
I imagine that's them right now.
Other book sellers must be issuing grudges at them at this very moment, disgusted at their luck. Even the human ones!
Oh, also Book Seller Quest QM is foaming at their mouth, because their carefully-crafted economy just shattered.
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- Canada
Roughly yes, though with a few caveats. Things previously available only with favour can be bought with regular gold now, as we're trusted enough for that. And major events get boons instead of favour.
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- Earth
I don't think that distinction exists. The back-fill option is about filling out the topics that Mathilde already has in her existing personal library. Presumably, this means that her personal library will form the core of what will become the main one, since otherwise it'd have a personal library shaped hole in what would've been complete topics.
Sounds about right.
I remember asking the same thing about our pending dwarf favors on the char sheet, and this was his response:
So my assumption is that the AV system gets reworked into boons too.
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- Canada
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Not without being born into their family. The Karaz Ankor doesn't believe in publicly traded companies.
No, it's a living document. Making a copy of it means there'd be an incorrect copy of it as soon as the original gets updated, and that would be unacceptable.
Yeah, Order makes for the most straightforward layout: huge halls full of very large bookcases full of carefully-sorted books, with room enough to expand so you don't need to start saying 'the rest of this section is in room 17b in the opposite wing'. All of Mathilde's effort and attention will go into making sure there's a sensible, scalable, all-encompassing system. And the architects and masons can't really contribute to that process, apart from carving out the space it's going to live in. They would have been on screen a bunch more for the other options, which would have had different and more complicated architectural requirements.
The Dwarf Favour system is 'broken' in that you can get anything done that has a clear benefit to the Karaz Ankor without expenditure. If you want something for someone else or something esoteric or weird or whatever, then you'll need to use boons or Vitae.
In all seriousness, the Kvinn-Wyr Library is Mathilde's Great Boon and she took direct charge of it. There is no reason in the world for her to have shame in prioritizing whatever she thinks is most important to prioritize when building the collection. While we have hopes for it being a K8P legacy, it is also her personal playground that exists as Belegar's reward to her. If she's buying books that go into the Library it's not graft.
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While we're laying things out we should make sure we have not just shelves for books but also proper storage for papyrus scrolls, stone tablets, etc. So they don't have to get shoved off into an annex somewhere.
MiracleGrow
Miracles for only $19.99 [They/Them]
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- DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG U
Didn't Boney once state they would literally go to war to keep Weber as a customer?
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WhiteNights
Notorious Phoneposter
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Yes he did.
They are probably ecstatic right now.
Where is the best place for knowledge to be found?
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
The question that ignited the powder keg was as many others over time, asked without expecting an answer; "where is the best place for knowledge to be found?" only meant to be clever set up to coax a wrong response out of the interlocutor, the correct (and somewhat pedantic) response was "out there, for we know not one fraction of what it is to know"; but any hope of ever reaching that retort died seconds later when the shouting started.
Scholars, particularly drunk scholars, are opinionated creatures who won't hesitate to educate their peers out of any mistake. So, what started as an interesting discussion in a bar that catered to those of scientific interest, about the nature of knowledge itself; a conversation comprised of a few somewhat tipsy individuals who used their free time chatting whit friends to have fun and polish their rhetoric, soon devolved into a verbal brawl in which each faction defended their alma matter without regard for accuracy or truth and who among them had collectible drank a small vineyard.
The discussion was broken before the first punch was thrown only thanks to the intervention of a nearby dwarf. The bearded menace had invited itself into the conversation without the slightest hint of subtlety by loudly declaring that a library none of them had ever hear about was the richest in empire lore. When asked to elaborate by skeptical scholars the chainmail-clad creature had started his answer whit a disapproving grunt that triggered long-repressed instincts from their time as apprentices, archiving absolute silence and stillness from people who thought themselves masters on their respective fields.
Whit a voice coarse as gravel and yet whit perfect diction told the tale of a library that shared Ghal Maraz's origin, an artifact made by dwarfs to pay a great service done for them by a human; open to all who seek knowledge no matter species or creed, so vast as to hold two empires worth of bibliography in a few subjects yet expertly organized and preserved.
For hours they listened whit rapt attention to tales of not less than a dozen conjoined research projects among dwarfs and men of which this library had been the epicenter of, military campaigns that were saved thanks to information provided by this archive, and of the people who visited the place. From empire nobles to lord magisters, elector counts, and even an emperor dragon had chosen those halls as their preferred option to study and even publish some of their own work. Before the tale was over each one of them had silently vowed to travel to that wondrous place even if it was the last thing they ever did.
Vow they immediately broke after the dwarf started talking about spiders.
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sorry for any mistakes, English is hard.
Scholars, particularly drunk scholars, are opinionated creatures who won't hesitate to educate their peers out of any mistake. So, what started as an interesting discussion in a bar that catered to those of scientific interest, about the nature of knowledge itself; a conversation comprised of a few somewhat tipsy individuals who used their free time chatting whit friends to have fun and polish their rhetoric, soon devolved into a verbal brawl in which each faction defended their alma matter without regard for accuracy or truth and who among them had collectible drank a small vineyard.
The discussion was broken before the first punch was thrown only thanks to the intervention of a nearby dwarf. The bearded menace had invited itself into the conversation without the slightest hint of subtlety by loudly declaring that a library none of them had ever hear about was the richest in empire lore. When asked to elaborate by skeptical scholars the chainmail-clad creature had started his answer whit a disapproving grunt that triggered long-repressed instincts from their time as apprentices, archiving absolute silence and stillness from people who thought themselves masters on their respective fields.
Whit a voice coarse as gravel and yet whit perfect diction told the tale of a library that shared Ghal Maraz's origin, an artifact made by dwarfs to pay a great service done for them by a human; open to all who seek knowledge no matter species or creed, so vast as to hold two empires worth of bibliography in a few subjects yet expertly organized and preserved.
For hours they listened whit rapt attention to tales of not less than a dozen conjoined research projects among dwarfs and men of which this library had been the epicenter of, military campaigns that were saved thanks to information provided by this archive, and of the people who visited the place. From empire nobles to lord magisters, elector counts, and even an emperor dragon had chosen those halls as their preferred option to study and even publish some of their own work. Before the tale was over each one of them had silently vowed to travel to that wondrous place even if it was the last thing they ever did.
Vow they immediately broke after the dwarf started talking about spiders.
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sorry for any mistakes, English is hard.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
[x] [LIBRARY] Back-fill.
So is Boney going to have work this out or is someone going to volunteer? If only to work out exactly what this vote gets.
So is Boney going to have work this out or is someone going to volunteer? If only to work out exactly what this vote gets.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Just as the Barak Varr Shipwrights Guild amiably schismed into the Skarrenokri and Slotchokri, so will the Barak Varr Book Seller's clan schism into the Kronurbarokri and Kronurbazrilokri: book-selling as a trade in general and book-selling to the Silver Mountain specifically.
