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How long has it been since we ran into an irrational, temperamental person we couldn't hold a conversation with that wasn't also an enemy?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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- Earth
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- Germany
How long do we know Ranald?
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Huh. Lots of arrogance and condescension, but that's pretty much an expected hazard of the job when working with ancient elves - frankly I expected worse, and I do get the impression that he's at least trying to get along.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Well now. This certainly makes the Waystone project all the more viable. Though what I fear now is this Grey Lord making the sheer loss of runic knowledge the dwarfs suffered all the starker. Kragg might have made this less of a worry, but at least with whatever success we get on the dwarf rune side will be spread back to the runesmith guild.
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- Leeds
"Yes, its extremely inconsiderate when it does that."
we finally learn Mathildes mothers name. But how did he know 
Unfortunate timing. Or very fortunate.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
mmm...relatievly polite by elf standards.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
Freya was Sigmar's mother. Pretty sure he's thinking daughter in a less literal sense.
"Yes, its extremely inconsiderate when it does that."
Unfortunate timing. Or very fortunate.
I am not sure it is actually her mother's name. i think it may be the name of a notable queen associated with those who would become the Stirlanders.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Seems like he thinks humans shouldn't be trying to do magic, but at the very least he seems to have met humans and decided that he does approve of some so his opinions are not formed from stereotypes and pure arrogance.
mmm...
If I were to guess he thinks Sigmar did a good job so he likes it when humans try to play Sigmar rather than wizard.
Perhaps even more emoticons were required?
Arrogant, yet affable. I look forward to him and Thorek Ironbrow getting acquainted.
So the Grey Lords live in a pocket dimension, but do at least remain productive. And thankfully we didn't have to track down a 'Horn of Cenarius' type McGuffin to get hold of them.
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TimEd
Meteor maker
I mean, we apparently doged a major bullet there, with that mention of an Uncle.
And this
is likely a tad overexagerated, but it still is something that understandably greatly colors their views. Really, no amount of relayed news will grant them the cultural context that even the isolationist elves have aquired over the many years. The fact that us being a magic capable human being a surprise alone really highlights that blindspot on "recent" news.
I think that statement is him just side eyeing Mathilde while saying "isn't it illegal for humans to know magic in the empire/s?'"
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I got the impression that his objection wasn't that Mathilde was a human doing magic, it was that she was doing magic in a way that gave her chiselfingers. We'll probably find out for certain once we interact with him more.
Hmm.
This is in "archaic but fluent Reikspiel," so I can't be entirely certain, but this use of "people" seems to me to imply the Grey Lords aren't terribly nationalistic.
There's probably more than a few stresses between them and the other "two thirds of Laurelorn," though I suppose that shouldn't be surprising.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I will admit, I don't quite see the arrogance coming from this guy?
He is old and not up to date with the rest of the world, yes, but that's being hyperfocused, not arrogant.
"Dabbled in things she shouldn't have" is a pretty easy conclusion to make when you count transforming part of your soul to Ulgu as a negative.
He is old and not up to date with the rest of the world, yes, but that's being hyperfocused, not arrogant.
Assuming his views on magic are not too dissimilar to the Archmages of Hoeth, to him Mathilde is basically the equivalent of a baker covered in burn scars from the multiple times they stuck their arms into an oven trying to pull the bread out.
"Dabbled in things she shouldn't have" is a pretty easy conclusion to make when you count transforming part of your soul to Ulgu as a negative.
Freya was Queen of the Asoborns and had a child with Sigmar. The wiki is phrased ambiguously.
Well, that seemed... amiable.
But I wonder what exactly he is? One of the Grey Lords is apparently considered, or actually literally, the Queen's uncle so... is this some kind of transformed or transcended Elf? Half elf, half spirit, as a result of whatever transformation happens? (The fact that they apparently are helped kept alive by the Eonir, via magic, does seem to imply some kind of supernatural existence. But then we were already suspecting or expecting that to begin with.) Or was the uncle comment a bit metaphorical rather than literal familial descent?
I don't think it's that last one, which is why I figured it was the Arcane Marks that got that reaction.
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But I wonder what exactly he is? One of the Grey Lords is apparently considered, or actually literally, the Queen's uncle so... is this some kind of transformed or transcended Elf? Half elf, half spirit, as a result of whatever transformation happens? (The fact that they apparently are helped kept alive by the Eonir, via magic, does seem to imply some kind of supernatural existence. But then we were already suspecting or expecting that to begin with.) Or was the uncle comment a bit metaphorical rather than literal familial descent?
Was that referring to the Arcane Marks Mathilde bears? The Dwarf gear? Touches from Ranald? Or something else? Dabbling in politics of Laurelorn? Or just "humans doing magic at all"?
I don't think it's that last one, which is why I figured it was the Arcane Marks that got that reaction.
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I think it was this bit.
Terrified primitives, and mimicking Waystones.
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Asheram
Not quite altogether
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- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
I'm not certain if it's intended or not but I'm curious to how the Grey reacted to the common name of Karak Eight Peaks. I suppose that's a simplification since they were speaking Eltharin but I was frankly expecting them to use the Dawi name of Vala Azril Ungol, or "Queen of the Silver Depths".
Huh? There was no couple mentioned that could be vampires, and why would there be any vampires among the Grey Lords?
It could well be a fair description of the original human inhabitants of the Reik Basin.