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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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DragonParadox said:
And would that someone else be of any use to Mathilde? We did pay 1000 Gold for the thing, I would rather not see it ride off in to the sunset on the shoulder of a random knight if we can help it.
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For what it's worth, there is a really good potential candidate that we are sort of connected to: Roswita's witchhunter retainer, Lucas von Salkalten. If he's wiling to deal with magic, but at least Roswita has softened, so he might have too.

And if he's missing the right arm, of course (@Codex's super useful entry doesn't say, also thanks to Codex because getting the name was so much easier this way, I didn't even have to bother picklepikkl). I think the right arm is the left arm, and not the right arm, but we don't know if he's missing the right arm (which is to say, the left arm) or the right arm. Or I could be remembering wrong, and the right arm isn't the left arm, and in fact the right arm is the right arm, though then we still don't know if Lucas is missing the right arm, and if that's the right arm. Right?
 
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BurnNote said:
For what it's worth, there is a really good potential candidate that we are sort of connected to: Roswita's witchhunter retainer, Lucas von Salkalten. If he's wiling to deal with magic, but at least Roswita has softened, so he might have too.

And if he's missing the right arm, of course (@Codex's super useful entry doesn't say, also thanks to Codex because getting the name was so much easier this way, I didn't even have to bother picklepikkl). I think the right arm is the left arm, and not the right arm, but we don't know if he's missing the right arm (which is to say, the left arm) or the right arm. Or I could be remembering wrong, and the right arm isn't the left arm, and is fact the right arm is the right arm, though then we still don't know if Lucas is missing the right arm, and if that's the right arm. Right?
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He lives in Stirland, what good is he going to do us? And for that matter what impact do you expect him to have on the narrative?
 
KADOH: Hello Johann, how are- What is that?!

JOHANN: This is my new golden arm. Isn't it great? I can use it to pick up stuff and also blast things. I could blow up that tree! I won't... but I could.

KADOH: And this... it replaced your previous arm? I see, you must have planning this for-

JOHANN: Mathilde showed it to me a few days ago! She said Johann, I found this golden arm that I bought off a Norscan. I don't know where it's from, but do you want to cut off your arm and graft it on? That sounded like the best idea ever.

KADOH: .... .... ....

JOHAN: It's for research. Grafting magic onto ourselves to see what it does is how human wizards research.

KADOH: I see.

JOHANN: I don't! Lost my eyes trying to graft gold into them.

KADOH: .... .... .... ....
 
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Briefvoice said:
KADOH: Hello Johann, how are- What is that?!

JOHANN: This is my new golden arm. Isn't it great? I can use it to pick up stuff and also blast things. I could blow up that tree! I won't... but I could.

KADOH: And this... it replaced your previous arm? I see, you must have planning this for-

JOHANN: Mathilde showed it to me a few days ago! She said Johann, I found this golden arm that I bought off a Norscan. I don't know where it's from, but do you want to cut off your arm and graft it on? That sounded like the best idea ever.

KADOH: .... .... ....

JOHAN: It's for research. Grafting magic onto ourselves to see what it does is how human wizards research.

KADOH: I see.

JOHANN: I don't! Lost my eyes trying to graft gold into them.

KADOH: .... .... .... ....
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Empire Wizard research journals have a small secondary market as elven horror novels.
 
[X] [THOREK] Both
[X] [ARM] Johann

A cold war within the Runesmith's guild would be a disaster but Thorek is going to do what he is going to do regardless of our actions so in the grand scheme of things it is best that he succeed as quickly and decisively as possible so that the disruption is minimal. That this also moves guild policy in the direction we want and secures us the support of such an influential figure is a bonus.

As for the Dwarves of Middenheim, my read of the situation is that getting Thorek's support does not actually require that we mess with them to much as a group. Just do some skullduggery until we know who has the info we need and then at worst steal it if it is recorded somehow or abduct and interrogate the right people if it is simply remembered. Distasteful to be sure, but nothing we have not done before for far lesser gains. Now if we actually end up needing to start promoting discrimination against them, that is a line I would not be comfortable crossing, but just extracting some secrets should not require that.

As for Johan, giving him a laser arm is a goal in and of itself and I see absolutely no scenario where this will go wrong.
 
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I am against putting a magical prosthesis of unknown provenance and powers on a master wizard. They're too useful as they are to roll the dice on loss/impairment vs cyberarm they don't need. They're too dangerous to graft a potential source of corruption or possession direct to their flesh.

Johann in particular gains the least of any human we know by attaching this arm because he already has two fully Gilded arms. If it was Chamon attuned eyes there might be an argument but even then I don't think we should give him a chance to roll another 01 on a body mod!
 
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As for the Dwarves of Middenheim, my read of the situation is that getting Thorek's support does not actually require that we mess with them to much as a group. Just do some skullduggery until we know who has the info we need and then at worst steal it if it is recorded somehow or abduct and interrogate the right people if it is simply remembered. Distasteful to be sure, but nothing we have not done before for far lesser gains. Now if we actually end up needing to start promoting discrimination against them, that is a line I would not be comfortable crossing, but just extracting some secrets should not require that.
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Less stealing and abducting, more political pressure through the Empire.
 
Rafin said:
Will that be on screen? I'd totally get it if not (it would fit the precedent I think), but seeing a LM Mathilde throw around her soft power in an Empire setting would be right up my alley.
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Probably.

Rafin said:
@Boney How far can Johann "see" with his ferromagnetic Magesense? Would he even be capable of, like, firing accurately at a living target at the kind of range that bows or guns usually get used?
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If they were wearing armour.

DragonParadox said:
What really matters though is how the Rule of Pride works within the context of this quest.

@Boney does Mathilde know enough about runesmiths IC to tell how it really works?
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No, it's an internal norm of a notoriously secretive Guild.
 
If Johann wants point and zap he can buy a ring. Or a wand, he can even get Max to make a spring loaded wrist holster for it.

If Mathilde un-cripples some warrior she can keep them on as a retainer. That way if smackface is needed she can call on three golden fists to administer it - a 50% improvement!
 
I'm fairly sure we're not going to go all "terrifying ethereal assassin" on the imperial dwarves.

We're going to go to the Graf and say "Hey, buddy, the imperial dwarves living in your city have inherited ancestral knowledge that my very good friend Runelord Thorek Ironbrow—you might have heard of him?—very much wants to know. Could you give us a hand with this?"

And then Boris says to the imperial dwarves "As your lawful liege, I request that you pass on this knowledge to your kin in Karak Azul."

And then the Imperial Dwarves say "nope"

And so Boris responds "Oh that's a shame, especially since this business with our new friends the Eonir—who I've just learned were very good friends with your ancestors—has put such a strain upon my treasury. Why, it was only the other day when my steward suggested a new tax on dwarf made goods to make up the difference. I'm sure I could be convinced to find another method of raising the funds, however, hint hint, nudge nudge."
 
Anyway, Johann is probably not the most efficient person to give the laser arm to...

But he's the only one who can do any kind of Kung Fu, and I really want that G Gundam Reference WITH THE HELP OF KYOOOOJI
[X] [THOREK] Both
[X] [ARM] Johann
 
Valmond said:
I'm certain Mathilde has many sharp objects available. :V
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There's a reason I asked. My first thought was Mathilde chopping it off with Branulhune, but I figured that would be a bit much.

Boney said:
Laudanum and a barber-surgeon.
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And this is as professional as it get for the time period. That guy is going to be so confused when a wizard mostly made of gold walks in asking him to chop his perfectly good arm off.
 
For the arm, I'm definitely in favour of putting it on a Wizard, and Johann will do if he's into that sort of thing. A Wizard will be able to give better feedback than a non-Wizard about what the hell it's doing and how it works, and be more helpful for future experimentation.

If we take it apart we'll learn about it, but we can always take it apart after putting it on someone. (This might take a while if they want to keep it, but there's no rush I'm aware of.)
 
[X] [ARM] Johann
Attempt to attach the prosthetic arm to Johann, with his full and enthusiastic consent.
[X] [THOREK] Both
Either possibility would purchase the cooperation of Thorek Ironbrow. Assisting with both would make a partner of him.
 
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