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Did you mean to quote me? I was talking about what we do now, not the previous roll.

On the other hand: @BoneyM , any chance Ranald's roughly +20% blessing will affect this die roll? You know, turning a 1 into a 2 out of pity, or a 6 into a 7.

Or hell, just ramp up the effects of a 1 and a 6 even further than they're already going to be? We probably die if we roll a 1, anyway.
Pretty sure we're about to be making a Learning/Piety Roll to steal the power, and it gets the +20, if anything. The d6 is for if we manage to steal the power. As far as I understand.
 
Yes, but it's got nothing to do with Lores. We don't do the Lore of Ulgu and the Lore of Ranald, we do the Lore of Ulgu and the Lore of Mathilde (in so much as 'do Ulgu while being Mathilde' counts as a lore). If you just want to say that Ranald's got our back, of course he does, but he doesn't spot us any spell slots, which was what my post was about.
Ah. My point was that there is no inherent contradiction between serving Ranald and being an Ulgu wizard and that access to Lore of Ranald is entirely optional for being a proper priest.

Essentially, we just used different definitions of what "do Ranald" means, which lead to a bit of misunderstanding.
 
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On the other hand: @BoneyM , any chance Ranald's roughly +20% blessing will affect this die roll? You know, turning a 1 into a 2 out of pity, or a 6 into a 7.

Or hell, just ramp up the effects of a 1 and a 6 even further than they're already going to be? We probably die if we roll a 1, anyway.

It wouldn't be a scale from good to bad, each face of the die would have a different outcome, albeit ordered in such a way that higher numbers are better. The Blessing may come into play as the consequences of that roll unfold.
 
The last time Mathilde was near a shrine bristling with divine energy, someone got bitten in half by an invisible ghost shark. I'd think that memory would be what's foremost in her mind right now. Just by the very circumstance of her standing here, she's gambling with her very soul. So, I'm going to do what I think is cleaving most closely to her character: Go all in.

[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
[Fourth and fifth victim: Intrigue, 92+17+10(Shadowcloak)+15(???)=132 vs 40+10=50.]

As a minor note, this should have been 134, not 132.
If the Ranald option wins, the results will be decided by a d6. He would have it no other way.

:o Uh oh.

GOING ALL IN. YOLO! :V
 
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
 
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I said it a while back, but Faith is one of the underpinnings that makes the Empire the only real human power of global relevance that exists (I don't count Cathay really, they're not a global power regardless of what their actual theoretical capabilities are), and this is... Uh

This is exactly the time you cross your fingers and put your faith in a higher power, because aaaaaahhhhhhhhh
 
I did, I was responding to your comment about Ranald's blessing more generally.

I'm wondering if this is more like the situation when we Master a spell, where a d6 is rolled to decide which bonus ability Mathilde gets, not to decide how good it is.
Pretty sure we're about to be making a Learning/Piety Roll to steal the power, and it gets the +20, if anything. The d6 is for if we manage to steal the power. As far as I understand.
It wouldn't be a scale from good to bad, each face of the die would have a different outcome, albeit ordered in such a way that higher numbers are better. The Blessing may come into play as the consequences of that roll unfold.
Oh, I see! I thought it was replacing the learning Check entirely, my bad.
 
If Mathilde lives to tell the tale about this, I wonder what this would be worth in dwarf favours for crushing a nascent black orc lead Waaagh, and to the College for discovering the origin of the black orcs as well as whatever magical conclusions can be drawn from the results. I think she'll know better than to mention the chaos dwarves to Kragg and co.

I said it a while back, but Faith is one of the underpinnings that makes the Empire the only real human power of global relevance that exists (I don't count Cathay really, they're not a global power regardless of what their actual theoretical capabilities are), and this is... Uh

This is exactly the time you cross your fingers and put your faith in a higher power, because aaaaaahhhhhhhhh

The Bretonnians are arguably of at least equal if not greater relevance, because they are more likely to launch Errantry Wars to deal with problems outside their borders, and because they have a much, much better navy they can use to project force.

Of course, their Leadership is much more motivated and determined by their faith.
 
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Personal take on Chaos Sorcerors is that what basically happens is they just replace some of the arcane mishap rolls with the relatively more forgiving divine mishap rolls. Which would functionally allow them to take more risks, cast deeper and no doubt the Mark of Tzeentch buffs their Magic too.

Like, its not like their divine lores are the only thing gods have to offer.


Also, while i only skimmed the discussion because there were too many pages by the time i woke up, and thus this might have been said already, i saw a number of people talking about how we haven't used Ranald's Blessing in the last X months so it should apply to the ranald choice, but if i remember what @BoneyM has said correctly,the blessing only works on longer timescales, not on shorter things like battles or this.
We asked this when we went on adventure mode. The Blessing would manifest at one climactic moment as determined by Ranald to be suitably dramatic.
One toss of the dice at the right place at the right time.
Nudged.
 
I just hope that in case if if we actually do get a positive or neutral outcome, somebody will actually notice and understand what happened, instead of it being just Mathilde's words.

Mathilde spinning tales about chosen orks of god and how she fenced a bunch of divine energies to her god is one thing, people seeing a mountain-busting energy field go away is another.
 
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I just hope that in case if if we actually do get a positive or neutral outcome, somebody will actually notice and understand what happened, instead of it being just Mathilde's words.

Surely "being noticed" is against the thematics of the God of Thieves? :V

Anyway, now I'm imagining a meeting of the various Empire faiths happening, and Mathilde just happening to be there.

As an independent Grey Wizard, of course. Ranald didn't send a representative.
 
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If Mathilde lives to tell the tale about this, I wonder what this would be worth in dwarf favours for crushing a nascent black orc lead Waaagh, and to the College for discovering the origin of the black orcs as well as whatever magical conclusions can be drawn from the results. I think she'll know better than to mention the chaos dwarves to Kragg and co.
Do the Dwarves know the Chaos Dwarves made the Black Orcs though... doing something like that sounds like a grudging to me.
 
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
 
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