Do Frederick and Natasha even know about Norse Dawi (in-character)?
Does anyone on Ark actually knows about them?
Worst case scenario we have some dwarfs in Nat group that should know.
you begin with your arms folded behind your back. Men and women of the Old World and beyond, elves, and dwarfs, look back at you with the blazing fire that only those who have suffered in chains before having them be broken can have.
 
I wonder if what twill ha[ppen to Gwendolin after this. She really didn't deserve growing up in this hellhole. Maybe we can visit her.

Also I wonder what will be Malekith's reaction to this shitshow. You launch a raid on some uppity humans. You find out the Eonir just curbstomped one force with the humans, for some reason the survivors are screaming about human suicide bombers screaming 'SIGMAR IS GREAT' before blowing up your elites and now the irreplacable Black Ark is on fire as it seems every group is wanting to murder each other.
 
I wonder if what twill ha[ppen to Gwendolin after this. She really didn't deserve growing up in this hellhole. Maybe we can visit her.

Also I wonder what will be Malekith's reaction to this shitshow. You launch a raid on some uppity humans. You find out the Eonir just curbstomped one force with the humans, for some reason the survivors are screaming about human suicide bombers screaming 'SIGMAR IS GREAT' before blowing up your elites and now the irreplacable Black Ark is on fire as it seems every group is wanting to murder each other.
I'm pretty sure Malekith didn't send these arks against us, they independently decided to go raid us and fail drastically.

At this point any survivors have a better chance of long term survival if they all flee to the chaos waste.
 
Honestly took the entire day to read those 23k words with pauses to do other things. I'm tired. Just plain tired and uninterested in voting. Someone let me know what won the vote when voting is over so I know what to expect in the next chapter.

Apologies. It's always a shame to learn that a participant is uninterested in the goings on. I hope that the next one will be more engaging for you and less tiring.

Do Frederick and Natasha even know about Norse Dawi (in-character)?
Does anyone on Ark actually knows about them?

The Druchii have known about the Norse Dwarfs more consistently than the Karaz Ankor, at times. Hultressa certainly knows. Plus, the dwarfs had a big to do when Thorgrim 'rediscovered them' in his journey to become High King with worthy deeds, so Frederick and the others were made aware of their existence as they became more enmeshed with dwarf society and knowledgeable about their histories. But the Norse Dwarfs also didn't, well, do much else canonically around this period except 'get discovered' by Thorgrim again and then going silent during the sieges and raids from Valmir Aesling and lost out and got 'wiped out'. Until 4ED unwiped them out with a few holds surviving.
 
Honestly took the entire day to read those 23k words with pauses to do other things. I'm tired. Just plain tired and uninterested in voting. Someone let me know what won the vote when voting is over so I know what to expect in the next chapter.
I fail to see the reason for this. You realize the tally counter is a thing? And it will be used to determine the winner? And it takes about five seconds to use? I understand tiredness driving one's decisions but the way you're wording this feels like you're just saying it to be passive aggressive toward someone or someone's.
 
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It's just that going through Norscan and Kislev Civil war shitshows doesn't sound too appealing.

Then again we might not have a choice, with Ark's concealment gone and word being out Khornates might block sea escape.
Plus we might just not have enough ships to get everyone out, even if only Asur will decide to go with us.
 
Apologies. It's always a shame to learn that a participant is uninterested in the goings on. I hope that the next one will be more engaging for you and less tiring.
I think that Dmol8 is just tired and busy in RL, and not a slight against your writing or storytelling GM.
But the Norse Dwarfs also didn't, well, do much else canonically around this period except 'get discovered' by Thorgrim again and then going silent during the sieges and raids from Valmir Aesling and lost out and got 'wiped out'. Until 4ED unwiped them out with a few holds surviving.
And that can be chalked up to GW in general not having any idea of what to do with them, so they went with the laziest option of 'they all died' to ignore it.

I much prefer how you do it, with them constantly in conflict like they likely have been since they got cut off from their cousins, dealing with Chaos more than greenskins.
 
Hey, serious question, was it ever addressed how the non-elves in our warband are able to wear elven armor? I thought elven anatomy, like the Eldar in 40K, is distinctively *non-human.* I know these are slaves, and slaves tend to be fed the bare minimum for them to do their jobs and not die (quickly), but several of them were still described as "burly." In real life, plate armor had to be fitted for the occupant (and since this is Warhammer I assume a lot of plate is involved judging by the descriptions Torroar used), and I imagine elven armor, made for Druuchi, is likely even more precise, well-crafted, and tailor-made for its wearer. Warhammer of course runs on high fantasy logic and can thus have some allowances, but I would expect elven armor to be nigh-impossible for even the skinniest human to simply fit into, let alone move and fight on the battlefield. Elves are just skinnier and taller than humans, and their proportions are probably all off. Even if you could wear it piecemeal, I imagine it would be constricting, chafing, cause a billion tiny aches and pains (if it doesn't pinch nerves or cut off circulation entirely in some places), and just be a pain in the ass to wear while doing *anything.*

And then there are the dwarves in our group, who...well, I doubt any of them would want to wear elven armor anyway, so I assume they're just using scrap metal or their own extremely tough abs. Which is, you know, fair, even if the odds of them fitting into Druuchi armor were more than "no."
 
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The Druchii are gonna feel the lose of 2 Black Arks, as that is gonna be a big blow to there economy and military power. Same with overall pop, while the Druchii grow there pop a bit faster then high elves, but no were close to humans, so losing 2 Black Arks who are both big cities full of Druchii
 
I think that Dmol8 is just tired and busy in RL, and not a slight against your writing or storytelling GM.

I figured, yeah. Being tired and busy IRL is totally understandable, no worries. S'why I was saying I was hopeful that the next update would be more of a pick me up for them.

I fail to see the reason for this. You realize the tally counter is a thing? And it will be used to determine the winner? And it takes about five seconds to use? I understand tiredness driving one's decisions but the way you're wording this feels like you're just saying it to be passive aggressive toward someone or someone's.

I'm sure it's not intended like that. If they're just really tired and want to take time off the thread and come back later, that's fine, really. So no worries there.

Hey, serious question, was it ever addressed how the non-elves in our warband are able to wear elven armor? I thought elven anatomy, like the Eldar in 40K, is distinctively *non-human.* I know these are slaves, and slaves tend to be fed the bare minimum for them to do their jobs and not die (quickly), but several of them were still described as "burly." In real life, plate armor had to be fitted for the occupant (and since this is Warhammer I assume a lot of plate is involved judging by the descriptions Torroar used), and I imagine elven armor, made for Druuchi, is likely even more precise, well-crafted, and tailor-made for its wearer. Warhammer of course runs on high fantasy logic and can thus have some allowances, but I would expect elven armor to be nigh-impossible for even the skinniest human to simply fit into, let alone move and fight on the battlefield. Elves are just skinnier and taller than humans, and their proportions are probably all off. Even if you could wear it piecemeal, I imagine it would be constricting, chafing, cause a billion tiny aches and pains, and just be a pain in the ass to wear while doing *anything.*

And then there are the dwarves in our group, who...well, I doubt any of them would want to wear elven armor anyway, so I assume they're just using scrap metal or their own extremely tough abs. Which is, you know, fair, even if the odds of them fitting into Druuchi armor were more than "no."

Oh, it's ramshackle as all hell. You're basically peeling apart what you've got and fitting it where you can, hot swapping pieces that fit better for this or that person, or in a few cases beating it out into somewhat more fitting shape. Johanna and Roland can help with that. Other times, it's a case of strapping and tying things into place over the human bodies and sort of just using whatever methods are on hand to get them to be there. The Asur don't really have nearly that much of a problem. But you have caught on to why it was coming up that it was going to be much more restful in the Tor to take it off and relax, because of said constrictions, chafing, scrapes, starting to add up over time. However, there is also the psychological aspect of being an angry former enslaved person who is going to ignore a lot of those issues very much in favor of holding a sword and hacking at a Druchii. The vast majority of the freedmen not blessed with particularly suited frames are going more off of anger and fervor than well fitted equipment to themselves. I would also say that elves are not straight up twigs, either. They can be slender and 'twiggy' by some standards, but others are capable of actually being quite physically fit and larger, for instance look at what Chracian White Lions do with their huge fuckoff axes and the like. Plus, those that wear heavier plate and armor are going to be ones who can handle it, even if it is made of elven craftsmanship and therefore liable to be lighter and more flexible and whatever compared to a human's beaten out plate.

The dwarfs refused to even touch any of it, to their physical detriment in the update, unfortunately.
 
"It stinks of Druchii, it scrapes on me, it slides around a bit too much, it clatters and it's loud, it just doesn't fit well or right, and we cobbled together what I've got from different parts of what must have been full suits for five different Druchii. But you know what?"

*standing covered in blood, having hacked to death thousand year old Druchii who reminded them of the one who whipped their back until it looked like tattered rags falling off and tossed their child into the arena to be eaten by men driven insane with poisons and enchantments to be eaten alive'

"I'm doing pretty okay right now. That one over there? I liked their screaming when we held them down and tore their armor off and cut their throat and pulled their guts out with our hands."

*sniff/snorts in the Druchii blood on their face into their nose so hard some of it gets in their mouth and smiles*

"Yeah. I'm doing okay now."

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The Asur are doing the best in terms of equipment fitting. Really doesn't take much work at all to get stuff to somewhat comfortably fit them. It's still not perfectly smooth as butter fitting, but it's something that isn't that difficult to deal with. After all, Dreadspears and Bleakswords are majority conscripts, so they get gear closer to being mass-produced than what the knights have which is much more personalized, and yet also able to be sorta fitted on/stolen enough without being too big an issue. The freedmen don't care. The Witch Elves don't wear armor anyway. The Bretonnians are less sheer bloodthirsty and more desperately fervent and devoted in a manner that is, effectively, akin to Grail Pilgrims, and much like how Bretonnian fanatic peasants are insane enough sometimes to cart around dead Grail Knights on palanquins straight into a mob of Black Orks or daemons or Sisters of Slaughter, well...yeah.
 
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When I randomly checked my alerts 10 minutes before when I would usually leave for work, and then see a 23k update sitting there?

"Whelp, I guess I'm late then."

Luckily, supervisor's pretty chill and I just have to make up the time by staying a bit later. Worth it anyways.
 
The Bretonnians are less sheer bloodthirsty and more desperately fervent and devoted in a manner that is, effectively, akin to Grail Pilgrims, and much like how Bretonnian fanatic peasants are insane enough sometimes to cart around dead Grail Knights on palanquins straight into a mob of Black Orks or daemons or Sisters of Slaughter, well...yeah.
well Bretonnian peasants have that tabletop rule where they use the leadership of the nearest highest ranking Knight instead of their own and Roland is most certainly a leadership 10 knight so their is that
 
On another note : If we are sending Kerillan away... She can deal with cowards while we tend to asur.
Not sure how much, and certain it would be less than picking both, but it would be something.
 
Cool update Torroar. Not a voter by any means, but I greatly enjoyed this and just want to express my sheer awe at your ability to write 20k+ in mere days for a quest that's been ongoing for as long as this one. When the muse is fresh and hungry and you're in that delirious state of fresh fic/quest during the first days, that number is one thing. To do it after all of these years though, no matter the circumstances, that's impressive as hell.
 
Cool update Torroar. Not a voter by any means, but I greatly enjoyed this and just want to express my sheer awe at your ability to write 20k+ in mere days for a quest that's been ongoing for as long as this one. When the muse is fresh and hungry and you're in that delirious state of fresh fic/quest during the first days, that number is one thing. To do it after all of these years though, no matter the circumstances, that's impressive as hell.

Hey thanks! For better or worse, writing is one of the only things I find myself passionate about, so I'm quite glad that I'm still able to draw upon that well at times. Voting is nice, but so is participation in the thread in general, leaving a like or something on a post, or even just being present down there in the user viewing thread bar and what not. It's nice to know that people are at least engaged enough in my writing to stick around for a bit regardless of how they do it. Appreciated :)
 
So what do people think will happen with the Claw of Dominon once it crash into Norscan? i mean there is no way we could take it back to Ostland as we have no way to power it, so someone else is gonna claim its ruins
My money on Anchorstones breaking in a cascade and ark slowly sinking.
Either that or someone will have the bright idea ot parking it on Ulthuan.
Either way Ark is finished without a competent coven. And I would actually rather not chaos have it.
 
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