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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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ClawClawBite
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Has anyone else seen the film Zardoz? I am seeing some parallels with the higher tech group from that film.
The Singers and their habit of boxing dissident Signers likely has the ones who feel like they don't support the general consensus on edge. Fear of a crackdown, and wanting to keep quiet to not attract attention for dissident potential does make defection more appealing that a 'public' appeal for alies or major policy shifts.
The Singers and their habit of boxing dissident Signers likely has the ones who feel like they don't support the general consensus on edge. Fear of a crackdown, and wanting to keep quiet to not attract attention for dissident potential does make defection more appealing that a 'public' appeal for alies or major policy shifts.
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I don't understand. Why can't the Enterprise fly back to Federation space? Especially as informing Starfleet Command that the Explorer codes are compromised seems pretty damn important to me.
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something about changing there orders and stuff might clue them that we are clue`d into them.
or something like that.
also its not like we know a lot of new info yet.
lets see where this goes.
Jenny
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They're cut off behind the lines.
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Hard to conceptualize lines in space. With that third dimension and stuff.
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Easy enough to change the terminology- but the imagery is useful.
They are deep enough within Harmony space that an attempt to hastily cross the border region, without exploiting known gaps in patrol and sensor coverage, would result in near-certain detection and interception.
In other words, they are behind enemy lines.
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You'd probably be pretty frustrated if we had no ability to detect large, non-cloaked capital ships coming into our space, or to track such ships as they revved up the engines and tried to sprint back out of our space.
We've been taking it as a given that sensor systems available can detect ships across one or more map squares (e.g. double digit light year ranges) unless they have some means of concealment.
Think of it more as naval detection and interception.
Enterprise could sprint back, but they'd notice the smoke plume and investigate while signalling ahead to further out patrols to intercept. Enterprise not running the engines at full speed means it can track Harmony ships, avoid their attention by hiding among a few a islands when they are near and otherwise pass between the holes between their patrols.
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To be honest, I find myself less interested in the Enterprise this time. Even though Enterprise always gets the biggest and most important missions, I'm not looking forward to reading them like I am for whatever the Comet gets up to. The Comet is going to be voter-driven and that means we'll be more involved in the outcome of events, plus it's a much closer POV than we usually get.
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Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Update!
Wow, almost lost the Enterprise... one less (hopefully) Singer defector at the right place and time and boom. This be very scary.
Ugh, such a deep penetration of our command and communication is really, really bad. I thought that we kept them out better than this. I choose to believe that they burned a bunch of assets for this chance.
Ok, I am confused. A Singer can download themself into a chip in someones head? I know that Singers function as avatars for, well, the real Singers, but I thought that required extensive cybernetics and were possibly just puppets for a Singer on a mainframe somewhere? And where did we put the immensely dangerous digital intelligence anyway. Oh right Enterprise is an Amby which was designed in the old ship designer with a backup computer core, airgap that and it should work.
Lastly, this bothers me:
So which is it? Consistency would be nice.
Wow, almost lost the Enterprise... one less (hopefully) Singer defector at the right place and time and boom. This be very scary.
Ugh, such a deep penetration of our command and communication is really, really bad. I thought that we kept them out better than this. I choose to believe that they burned a bunch of assets for this chance.
Ok, I am confused. A Singer can download themself into a chip in someones head? I know that Singers function as avatars for, well, the real Singers, but I thought that required extensive cybernetics and were possibly just puppets for a Singer on a mainframe somewhere? And where did we put the immensely dangerous digital intelligence anyway. Oh right Enterprise is an Amby which was designed in the old ship designer with a backup computer core, airgap that and it should work.
Lastly, this bothers me:
Yes HoH Strike Corvettes were originally described as using microtorps, but in the ship designer that is an actual part that is Apiata only. As in, by WoG (SWB) HoH Strike Corvettes use normal torps presumably for balance reasons.
So which is it? Consistency would be nice.
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I'd probably say 'things in threadmarked updates' rates as a higher level of canonicity than 'minor note on a niche part on a spreadsheet only a dozen people have looked at'.
I guess I'm more concerned about the wartime vulnerability to force concentrations that Lone Ranger doctrine is evidently exposing our Explorers to. This seems to be (at least) the second time the Harmony have tried to ambush the isolated Enterprise.
I guess I'm more concerned about the wartime vulnerability to force concentrations that Lone Ranger doctrine is evidently exposing our Explorers to. This seems to be (at least) the second time the Harmony have tried to ambush the isolated Enterprise.
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Sure, but I can still be concerned about it.
I wasn't in the thread at the time of the Gabriel wars, for example. (Caught up at the Amby launch).
I wasn't in the thread at the time of the Gabriel wars, for example. (Caught up at the Amby launch).
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Meh, I still think Courageous has been filling the flagship role for months in and out of the Quest, so I'm not super-bothered. I'll be pissed off if we take some kind of mechanical penalty from them destroying it though.
I doubt they burned anything of significance for this, and they've always got more assets. I'm honestly surprised we still have a shot at this point. Presumably the QMs are afraid the Thread will riot again if they just say 'You know that time the Borg Cube nanite-ed Earth? That, but for the whole Sol sector.' and just tell us we've lost.
Apparently they do not, in fact, need extensive cybernetics. Best case? It just takes longer. Worst case? They've teched up enough to not need it.
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For the same reason the questbase of a quest wouldn't be happy if the QM said in the middle of the quest 'sorry, I rolled a 1 on the encounter table, you are all dead, quest ended.'
Jenny
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To be clear: Abeshta used Rence to enable his escape (launching the probe carrying him in a computer core), and brought Rence along to prevent retaliation against the guy, and because he was a patient of some personal significance to Abeshta.
Also, they're microtorpedoes. Don't think about the ship designer as exact specifics so much as guidelines.
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Well, that puts a lower bound on the amount of computing power required to reasonably comfortably contain a Singer intellect.
In unrelated musings, we could hypothetically produce and sustain, oh, a million firegapped, probe-computer-sizeprison cells, no problem, right?
In unrelated musings, we could hypothetically produce and sustain, oh, a million firegapped, probe-computer-size
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Fun fact: If my Old Soul, New Daughter omakes got canonized (I'm a bit hazy on that at this time), the Enterprise-C's backup computer core is the original NCC-1701 Enterprise's bridge computer core from Kirk's first five year mission.
Lt. Cmdr. Neroth: "After seven molecular-level scans, I can say with confidence that we have finally cleaned out the very last of the tribble fur. At last. After nearly sixty years."
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Allocating starships to an operation is always significant; the more ships, personnel (and one-shot intelligence assets) they direct against the UFP, the less they have to spare for dealing with any other challenges they face.
Romulan cloaks, for example.
The real question is if we can procure enough therapists to help acclimate them all to a universe in which their control over others has been effectively neutralized.
Well, contain an active Singer intellect - just because this Abeshta is willing to cram themselves in a probe computer for the duration of their escape/infiltration shenanigans doesn't mean that it's enough to considered comfortable/humane for longer or indefinite lengths of habitation (such as if not having room for more Singers might be the equivalent of solitary confinement for humans).
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Allocating starships to an operation is always significant; the more ships, personnel (and one-shot intelligence assets) they direct against the UFP, the less they have to spare for dealing with any other challenges they face.
Romulan cloaks, for example.
The real question is if we can procure enough therapists to help acclimate them all to a universe in which their control over others has been effectively neutralized.HolodeckGod-game addiction is no joke.
This is the border. They were going to have border patrol in the area either way, and they've outright corrupted Councilors before. I doubt they burned anything irreplaceable, or even particularly valuable. Knowing that somebody leaked the Explorer Corps codes is of little help if there's no guarantee the memory hasn't been wiped.
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This was a bit for me reading the update:
"Oooh, the Caerliss is mentioned, wonder what's that about... and wait, the Singers have intercepted the Explorer Corps communications? That's a problem... and then wait oh noooo is the Caerliss gone?"
Thank you Jenny for the clarification that Caerliss wasn't uh, blown up.
"Oooh, the Caerliss is mentioned, wonder what's that about... and wait, the Singers have intercepted the Explorer Corps communications? That's a problem... and then wait oh noooo is the Caerliss gone?"
Thank you Jenny for the clarification that Caerliss wasn't uh, blown up.