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So in the revised deployment system, the vote might look something like this.

[] Federalize 1 Vulcan Oberth

Available ships in 2326:
  • Oberths - 5 [C1 S5 H1 L2 P1 D1] / 2 Blooded, 1 Veteran
  • Miranda-A – 19 [C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2] / 3 Blooded
  • Centaur-B – 35 [C4 S4 H2 L4 P4 D5] / 9 Blooded
  • Keplers – 30 [C2 S7 H2 L4 P5 D5] / 1 Blooded
  • Comet – 1 [C4 S4 H3 L5 P4 D8] / 0 Blooded
  • Patrol Cruiser-A – 3 [C3 S4 H3 L4 P7 D6] / 0 Blooded
  • Constellation-A – 16 [C3 S4 H2 L3 P3 D4] 6 Blooded, 1 Veteran
  • Renaissance – 12* [C5 S3 H4 L5 P4 D5]
  • Non-EC Excelsior-A – 22 [C7 S6 H4 L6 P6 D6] / 13 Blooded, 1 Veteran
  • Non-EC Ambassador – 1 [C8 S9 H7 L9 P9 D8] / 0 Blooded
Note: 17 Renaissances will be in refit. In Q3 6 will emerge as Envoys and 3 as Renaissance-A. At the same time 7 Renaissances will go into refit. In Q4, 2 more non-EC Ambassadors complete!

Note: SYO strongly urges retiring the remaining Oberths; otherwise we may have insufficient crew to meet demands for new ships this year.

CHEN looks at her Chief of Staff, IORIN GRANN

CHEN: We're looking at a severe cruiser drought in mid-year. In Q3 we'll have just 5 Renaissances and 3 Renaissance-As on duty.

GRANN: In addition to six Envoys, the Constellations, and those Patrol Cruisers of course. But I get it... let's hope we don't have to fight any major battles with that kind of Vanguard line. At least with the task force pull-back, we have enough Explorers to spread around.

CHEN: Iorin, trust me. If there's one thing I've learned in my career, it's that you never have enough Explorers. (pause) Sad to see the Oberths go.

GRANN: Well it's hard to justify ships that old in servce now that we have (whistles) thirty Keplers to replace them.

CHEN: Indeed. Well, let's see what my Theater Admirals have to say.


COREWARD THEATER
Covers: Rigel Sector, Okatha Sector, Paddah Sector, Licori Border Zone, and Horizon Border Zone

Message from Theater Vice Admiral Gorac Crogan:
Admiral Chen, are we going to war with the Harmony of Horizon? Because for the past year, you've staffed my theater an awful lot like we need to be ready for war with the Harmony of Horizon. And you keep poking them. Not to mention, but oh look I am anyway, how now I have to worry about the Dreamers out there near Breen territory. And the Ked Paddah home systems, just swaying out there uncovered in the galactic wind. Bottom line, I can't recommend going any fewer ships than I've got now and if you could staff up it would be much appreciated. My "I'd like" list would be 7 to 8 science ships, 18 to 20 general service frigates, 8 to 10 capable cruisers, and no less than 8 to 10 Explorers... oh, and I'd like to keep the Polaris (our shiny new non-EC Ambassador) and the Comet.


TAILWARDS THEATER
Covers: Sol, Vulcan, Andor, Klingon Border Zone, and Romulan Border Zone

Message from Theater Vice Admiral ???? (couldn't find the name):
Admiral Chen, Sol sector remains the beating heart of the Federation and I am charged with its protection and care. As we contain four of the five members who have fully federalized their fleets, my responsibility is all the heavier. In these sectors, Starfleet must be prepared to fully replace the functions of the United Earth Space Probe Agency, Vulcan High Command, the Betazoid Defense Force, and the Andorian Guard. Additionally we guard the border against not one but two expansive militaristic powers. No matter how much relations with the Klingon Empire may have warmed, Chancellor Renhadd has proven he cannot fully control his Great Houses. And politics with the Romulan Empire, as ever, may turn quickly. My request would be for 7 to 8 science ships, 20 to 25 general service frigates, 5 to 6 capable cruisers, and no less than 6 to 7 Explorers.


CENTRAL THEATER
Covers: Amarkian, Tellar, Ferasa, Alukk, and the Sydraxian Border Zone

Message from Theater Vice Admiral Kimberley Pragur
Admiral Chen, rimwards of my theater is the "Rimwards Mess". Ittick-ka an Gorn at each other's throat, Hishmeri swarming and raiding everywhere, and us with no border zone at all between all the chaos and Risa. Corewards of my theater is a chaotic free-for-all sufficiently unexplored for entirely new species to appear out of the black. And need I remind you that the Tellarite State is very intolerant of previous perceived failures to support their worlds after giving up their entire home fleet to the Federation common good. I must request 7 to 8 science ships, 12 to 14 general frigates, 8 to 10 capable cruisers, and than 5 to 6 Explorers.


SPINWARD THEATER
Covers: Apinae, Rethelia, Cardassian Border Zone, Gabriel Border Zone, Imelak Border Zone, Ruby Eyes' Folly Patrol Zone

Message from Admiral Syzi ch'Zelil
Admiral Chen, my theater remains the largest in the Federation, stretching from our border with the Interstellar Commonwealth in the Gabriel Border Zone all the way to our sparring grounds with the Ittick-ka in the Ruby Eye Folly Patrol Zone. In between I must garrison and patrol our entire border with the Ashalla Pact, a polity that has made no secret of intention to attack the Federation whenever an opportunity presents itself. 8 to 10 Science ships, 18 to 20 general service frigates, 10 to 12 capable cruisers, and 7 to 8 Explorers.

GRANN: Oh, and the Federation Diplomatic Service sent their list of missions outside the Federation's borders they're willing to work if we can provide sufficient ships for support.

Note: 6 points of Presence = work on one tag.

Tags:
OSA - Disunified Homeworld 1/3 (FDS)
Lamarck - No Unified Government 0/10 (FDS)
Felis - Weak Central Government: 0/6 (FDS)
Misek - Jumping In Proboscis First 0/2 (FDS), Continuity Conundrum 0/4 (FDS)
Bajoran - Caste System: 0/6 (FDS) ; Rule by Vedek: 0/10 (FDS)
Shanpurr - Interfering with Pre-Warp Societies: 0/9 (FDS)
Sotaw - Located in the Neutral Zone: 0/6 (FDS)
Ittick-ka - Slaver State: 0/12 (FDS)
Hishmeri - Slave Free or Die Hard: 0/10 (FDS)
Unbound Gaeni - Slavery: 0/10 (FDS)
Righteous Allupii Empire - That sounds like slavery with more steps. 0/Lots (FDS)
Dobetia Commonwealth - Constitutional Work in Progress: 0/1 (FDS)


CHEN: That's a lot of potential, but also a lot of ships.

GRANN: Right. So.... shall we begin making our assignments, Admiral?

(not an actual vote because this is just a pseudo-omake)

Corward - X ships
Tailwards - X ships
Central - X ships
Spinward - X ships
FDS - X ships
 
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Briefvoice said:
Available ships in 2326:
  • Oberths - 5 [C1 S5 H1 L2 P1 D1] / 2 Blooded, 1 Veteran
  • Miranda-A – 19 [C3 S2 H2 L3 P1 D2] / 3 Blooded
  • Centaur-B – 35 [C4 S4 H2 L4 P4 D5] / 9 Blooded
  • Keplers – 30 [C2 S7 H2 L4 P5 D5] / 1 Blooded
  • Comet – 1 [C4 S4 H3 L5 P4 D8] / 0 Blooded
  • Patrol Cruiser-A – 3 [C3 S4 H3 L4 P7 D6] / 0 Blooded
  • Constellation-A – 16 [C3 S4 H2 L3 P3 D4] 6 Blooded, 1 Veteran
  • Renaissance – 12* [C5 S3 H4 L5 P4 D5]
  • Non-EC Excelsior-A – 22 [C7 S6 H4 L6 P6 D6] / 13 Blooded, 1 Veteran
  • Non-EC Ambassador – 1 [C8 S9 H7 L9 P9 D8] / 0 Blooded
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Roughly speaking an even distribution across all four (4) Theaters would result in:

5.75 Explorers:
5 Excelsior-Bs + 25% chance of Ambassador, 50% chance of a 6th Excelsior-B, and a 25% chance of no extra sips.

7.75 Cruisers:
3 Renaissances
4 Constellation-As
75% chance of a Patrol Cruiser-B

21.25 Frigates:
7 Keplers
8 Centaur-Bs
4 Miranda-As
+2 Misc Frigates (37.5% Miranda-A, 37.5% Centaur-B, 25% Kepler)
+25% chance of a Comet

Total Ship Count: 34.75 per Theater

This is of course ignoring that, for the reasons Briefvoice listed in his pseudo-omake, we'd probably want a less balanced split and that we'd want to reserve at least some ships for the FDS.
 
For those of you that either don't pay attention or deal with fleet assignment's don't forget that we have an entire fleet of 36 Starships about to launch this year including several Ambassadors. And then there is the massive wave of Comets that is about to commence once the berths are empty. 22 Comets all told IIRC.
 
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Anime_Fan35 said:
For those of you that either don't pay attention or deal with fleet assignment's don't forget that we have an entire fleet of 36 Starships about to launch this year including several Ambassadors. And then there is the massive wave of Comets that is about to commence once the berths are empty. 22 Comets all told IIRC.
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I uh... I don't think that's right.
This is the very tail end of 2325. The Comet Wave is already in the berths. Our vast wave of Keplers is all but complete.
2326 is the year of refitting Renaissances and crossing our fingers we won't need them or the Comets until their 2327 due dates.

It's not all bad news though, we should still see a couple of Ambassadors launch the second half of the year.
 
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Alliterate said:
I uh... I don't think that's right.
This is the very tail end of 2325. The Comet Wave is already in the berths. Our vast wave of Keplers is all but complete.
2326 is the year of refitting Renaissances and crossing our fingers we won't need them or the Comets until their 2327 due dates.

It's not all bad news though, we should still see a couple of Ambassadors launch the second half of the year.
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Blame the Hiatus Its been a while.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
Captain's Log - We're cutting down so that we do logs for all FYM, plus one other event of interest per QM per quarter. Everything else gets summarised. We feel this strikes the necessary balance.
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Are you open to outsourcing captain's logs? The logs are kind of a big thing in terms of providing sources for characters and characterizing the sort of officers we want to promote into the Corps (e.g. Gregor Mannigan is likely to be a shoo-in for a Corps captaincy after his handling of the Eye of Chaos situation, one of these days).

Of course, with like 5-6 QMs per quarter crafting their own logs I suppose that's not such an issue, I guess. I guess.

Tac Ops - Dead and gone, especially the Roles system.
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Yeah, honestly that was always going to be needlessly complicated. It makes more sense to just eyeball the question of how ships are employed tactically in a war zone, and during peacetime it just never matters much.

Deployment - Now will be done by Theatre, instead of by Sector. Vice Admirals who command Theatres will give you their requests, but you decide on the balance of forces. Done by numbers rather than individual ships.
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I... um... hm.

I know why you did it, but I'm going to miss the idea of actually having some influence over which ships were in which sectors doing which things.

Emergencies - Emergencies are considered on three tiers - Fed-wide High Alert; State of Emergency; and State of War. There are some specific mechanics that come into play for each, but the old mobilisation system is dead and gone. Now there's just a drastic Pp income uptick, and all options you need to draft responses will go into the snakepit, which you'll have access to more frequently. The Admiral will have to delegate a lot more in the crisis, which means we'll provide a list of possible Focuses, of which you'll pick three. After that, you're rather more the Eisenhower than the Patton.

Warfare closer to the front will be determined by posture and the type of Admiral you have there (SPICE and possibly traits), as rolled on event tables. Grand Offensives will of course, take priorities, but you won't be directing minute patrols. Just divide up the ships, assign Theatre commanders, and occasionally demand someone gets the sack.
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To be fair that is pretty much how we handled the actual fleet management in the Licori War.

Academy Steering - Dead, just not really worth the investment we feel.
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Hm. I think the big issue with it is that it was a non-scalable option that couldn't be done often enough to materially impact the overall distribution of fleet crew availability on blue/red/goldshirts. ALso, it made more sense as a game artifact back when the ship classes tended to have more unbalanced crew requirements. When you had 1/1/4 Oberths and 6/5/5 Excelsiors and 2/4/2 Constellations in play as likely construction, you were much more likely to end up specifically badly short of one type of crew or another.

But as the Federation and its crew income grew, being able to boop our crew income by one unit per year in one direction or another just plain didn't make as much difference. Especially as all the frigate classes and such converged to more balanced crew ratios.

Intelligence - The raw points tally we'll leave spoilered with the Intel Admiral explaining what they are doing. You'll have a set of fluffed options to deploy the rest. Makes it a simpler if less comprehensive vote.
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Hm. That could be very good or make me aargh and I'll have to wait until the intelligence update to be sure.

Ship Design Bureau
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- We've removed entirely: the Roles development process, the 2-3yr research plan part. Now you can spark a new class just by selecting one in the Snakepit, which will trigger a vote for designs to be provided to select the official one. Multiple prototypes will be able to be built, however, they will not benefit from parallel bonuses. They can provide serial bonuses however. SWB's v3.5 and v4 (which should be the final version) releases of the new lego-block parts building system will be out shortly.
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Removing the research time-delay is a good thing IMO. There were good reasons to do it, but the combination of both the research time and the prototyping time made the lag in getting new classes out into service unmanageably lengthy in terms of real time.
 
Speaking of letting go, or not letting go...

Briefvoice said:
Note: 17 Renaissances will be in refit. In Q3 6 will emerge as Envoys and 3 as Renaissance-A. At the same time 7 Renaissances will go into refit. In Q4, 2 more non-EC Ambassadors complete!

Note: SYO strongly urges retiring the remaining Oberths; otherwise we may have insufficient crew to meet demands for new ships this year.

CHEN looks at her Chief of Staff, IORIN GRANN

CHEN: We're looking at a severe cruiser drought in mid-year. In Q3 we'll have just 5 Renaissances and 3 Renaissance-As on duty.

GRANN: In addition to six Envoys, the Constellations, and those Patrol Cruisers of course. But I get it... let's hope we don't have to fight any major battles with that kind of Vanguard line. At least with the task force pull-back, we have enough Explorers to spread around.

CHEN: Iorin, trust me. If there's one thing I've learned in my career, it's that you never have enough Explorers. (pause) Sad to see the Oberths go.

GRANN: Well it's hard to justify ships that old in servce now that we have (whistles) thirty Keplers to replace them.
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Leslie: "There's only one problem with that plan."

Chen, Grann: "What's that?"

Leslie: "You're planning to retire all the Oberths. And T'Mir is an Oberth."

Chen: "Yes, that's the point. So what?"

Leslie: "Do you really think you're going to be able to retire T'Mir if she doesn't want to be found?"

Chen, going pale: "Iorin, check our updates on T'Mir's location..."

Grann: "..."

Chen: "Oh, shit."

Grann: "She's gone missing."

Leslie: "Oh, shit."

Grann: "Do you think she heard we were going to-"

Leslie, going pale too: "This is T'Mir. Of course she heard us."

Chen: "Surely we can find her, can't we?"

Leslie: "Ask the Betazoids. Ask the entire Cardassian Union. She's gone dark. And she's pissed."

Chen, Grann: "Oh, SHIT."
 
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I for one am not voting to retire T'Mir. We might pass command over to a member fleet or a serious science org, but after all she's accomplished I'm against retiring her as long as she can still fly. She's a "little" ship but she's done things beyond even many of our Explorers. (And from a purely mechanical standpoint, with her Veteran status she's still an effective back-line responder against non-S events. People just want to transfer her crew prematurely.)

...assuming this isn't something we voted on before the break. *shrug*
 
Folks, the T'Mir is not a ship or even a crew. It's a legacy. The name will be passed on to a new ship with a big name to live up to.

That's doing the "T'Mir" a bigger favor than holding the name onto an increasingly irrelevant and aging hulk until... what, it either stops getting events completely and is long forgotten or finally manages to get destroyed?

Pass on the name with some dignity. I'm sure the Indorians have a sacred ritual to move the ship's spirit from one hull to a new one.
 
@Briefvoice I think we might be agreeing past each other here. At worst I'd probably vote for T'Mir to hang around for another year past when it optimally should have been retired. I don't want the ship's hull to be consigned to a museum but it's certainly not going to be fit to be an active Starfleet vessel for much longer, if not technically a couple years past there already.

Edit: D'oh. I missworded my previous post, sorry. When I said "not retire" in my mind I meant "don't scrap her or remove her working parts." Protip: Reread relevant posts before making a new one.
 
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Derpmind said:
@Briefvoice I think we might be agreeing past each other here. At worst I'd probably vote for T'Mir to hang around for another year past when it optimally should have been retired. I don't want the ship's hull to be consigned to a museum but it's certainly not going to be fit to be an active Starfleet vessel for much longer, if not technically a couple years past there already.

Edit: D'oh. I missworded my previous post, sorry. When I said "not retire" in my mind I meant "don't scrap her or remove her working parts." Protip: Reread relevant posts before making a new one.
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The Successor Ship to the T'Mir was pre-hiatus quite likely looking to be one of the New Heavy Frigate Super-Science Fast Scouts (i.e. S10-S11 Spectral types).
Even with the new ship commissioning rules, a wave is probably not happening until the early 30s. And I'm not sure if T'Mir is quite ship-class-name-worthy, just yet- even the Enterprise isn't the Class Name Ship.
So either we roll out an extra Kepler somewhere, or we let T'Mir have a short, well-earned vacation. I'm sure she acrued some back-leave while behind Pact lines for all those years!
 
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Speaking of letting go, or not letting go...

Leslie: "There's only one problem with that plan."

Chen, Grann: "What's that?"

Leslie: "You're planning to retire all the Oberths. And T'Mir is an Oberth."

Chen: "Yes, that's the point. So what?"

Leslie: "Do you really think you're going to be able to retire T'Mir if she doesn't want to be found?"

Chen, going pale: "Iorin, check our updates on T'Mir's location..."

Grann: "..."

Chen: "Oh, shit."

Grann: "She's gone missing."

Leslie: "Oh, shit."

Grann: "Do you think she heard we were going to-"

Leslie, going pale too: "This is T'Mir. Of course she heard us."

Chen: "Surely we can find her, can't we?"

Leslie: "Ask the Betazoids. Ask the entire Cardassian Union. She's gone dark. And she's pissed."

Chen, Grann: "Oh, SHIT."
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Well thanks. Now I have 3 ideas for new quests based around the T'Mir and her sister ships.

fasquardon
 
How about we just turn the T'Mir into another Museum ship and be done with it.

As for the next ship that gets it well.

how about the Ambassador Class Starship USS T'Mir-A. We have some Amby's about to launch in the next few turns that can have the name.
 
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Briefvoice said:
Admiral Chen, are we going to war with the Harmony of Horizon? Because for the past year, you've staffed my theater an awful lot like we need to be ready for war with the Harmony of Horizon. And you keep poking them.
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...if this becomes canon, we should probably read this guy in. Because at this point it's either that, wait for him to dig up an incomplete and potentially misleading set of facts, or do shady conspiracy shit.
 
Winged One said:
...if this becomes canon, we should probably read this guy in. Because at this point it's either that, wait for him to dig up an incomplete and potentially misleading set of facts, or do shady conspiracy shit.
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If you're interested, this is what Admiral Crogan canonically thinks of the shennanigans happening in his theater.

OneirosTheWriter said:
Coreward Theatre Operations Report, Vice-Admiral Gorac Crogan

Operations Command has been helping me build character over the last quarter. At least, that's how I choose to interpret it, because otherwise they've been simply driving me nuts with arbitrary patrol requests for fun. Is this hazing? It feels like hazing. In any event, the USS Sojourner made patrols through the Harmony-Federation interface; the USS Thejal made patrols on the outskirts of Bolian space; the USS Phoenix made patrols through parts of Licori Border space; and the USS Excalibur made patrols around Felis space.

Sensor results generated from these missions have been forwarded on to Task Force Canyon's commander at Ke'luur. From what I have heard, the results are very exciting to someone. That doesn't necessarily mean much though. I've seen our friendly blue-collars get so hyped up I had them sent to sickbay for a narcotics test and all they were looking at was an abnormal type of gravel. [CoS NB: I'm pretty sure he's referring to the discovery of McClusky-th'Vennarth chemical bonds here...]

[New Targets, including...]
* Federation Border: Harmony cruiser on a regular patrol route
* Bolian Space: Compromised Comm Buoy - A subspace comms buoy from which improper carrier signals were detected
* Licori Space: Ixira Research Platform in Henai system that had a Harmony Scientist cruiser docked.
* Felis Space: Harmony Forward Supply Depot in Stellarcentric orbit in Luraperou system.
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Coreward Theatre Operations Report, Vice-Admiral Gorac Crogan

I'm starting to appreciate the unusual mission requests with slightly less than my normal boundless enthusiasm. Another four missions without much in the way of explanation has come down from Operations, one of which had the Phoenix nearly crush itself flying way too deep in the atmosphere of a gas giant to avoid detection by one of the Licori's new tech-ships, and another Harmony Scientist. I made a request of Ops Chief of Staff to explain if the sensor data recovered was worth the week in a Honiani dock the Phoenix had to spend getting her hull plates inspected.

I'll confess, "absolutely" was not my expected answer.

The Luther nearly ended up in an exchange of fire, for that matter, tangling with a rather aggressive corvette near the Felis border in unclaimed space. We've spoken with our counterparts and everyone has assured everyone it was just a misunderstanding. Still, things are getting tenser out here.

[Targets id'd by Phoenix, Luther, Thalisar the Last]
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Briefvoice said:
If you're interested, this is what Admiral Crogan canonically thinks of the shennanigans happening in his theater.
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to be a little more fair too the man.

i`m sure he has thoughts beyond the ones he reported up the chain of command.
i think those reports are about as passive agressive a way of saying WTF is going on command as one could get away with in a formal report.

unless i am reading things way out of context.
 
I'm not too worried about any conspiracy stuff because he's a Tellarite. Pretty sure his method of dealing with the pressure caused by our covert war is to write longer and more sarcastic reports for Chen to read.
 
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