To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
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- Liberl Zemuria.
We have 15 mining and research options to choose from.
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Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
Ah shit, the Breen are a Major Power. So... which new starship project/refit do we want?
Shadows
Sacred Priestess of the Benevolent Dice Gods
- Location
- USS Civilian, DDG-214
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I want. Noticed who our dear Admiral was meeting with in one of the updates: all of the generals of the constituent ground forces of the Federation.
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- Location
- Austin, TX
Given the direction non members are going, with the latest change to the Horizon targets, accelerating towards membership in most cases seems to be the new goal. Diplomatic push on the Tauni until they are members, and similar for anyone else near the Horizon border? Dreamers too, of course.
I see hints as to how the intel shakeup is going to go.
Let's see. What's crucial...
We'll want to start the Rennie-A Vanguard for 100% sure, the designs are ready immediately. In addition, I would recommend one of the variant Envoys this Snakepit. Because we urgently need a diplomatic ship, it is better to order an Envoy variant (which uses refit rules) now, and to create a new ship later, say, with Isolinear Computers or T3 Diplomacy in 2328/2329 Snakepit.
Colonies are actually fairly important this Snakepit and I would not recommend passing any to a member or affiliate - that option is usually a net loss and we got rid of 90% of the low hanging fruit already.
I would strongly recommend building Starbases on any Border Zone missing them to complete our ambition, and I would recommend NOT taking the new border zone. Ignore that HBZ/LBZ discount it is basically chasing the crisis, by the time they're finished there that'll be irrelevant.
Academy Development is always good.
Annnd 5 pushes of course.
Well, if we had of rushed off to help the Chrystovians, it looks like between the fleet strength and the internal supporters, the Pact probably would have overrun them before our fleet could have gotten there anyway. Especially if we had of waited for a Harmony Task Force to join in.
EDIT: in relation to SWBs post above, which BZs do not have a Star Base currently, and how many colonies can we start without stretching Engineering resources too far?
EDIT: in relation to SWBs post above, which BZs do not have a Star Base currently, and how many colonies can we start without stretching Engineering resources too far?
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
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Oh, hey! I'm looking forward to this, actually. Plus, we did just recently get the research done for the new wave of ship designs/refits as planned, so this hopefully won't be too disruptive however it goes. Anyways, I'll be panicking while I try to do some analysis on how this new vote will affect research. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Of the ship designs options i have made designs for two of them,
Examples of these are:
C2 S5 H2 L5 P11 D7 115br 105sr O2 E3 T3 3 years
C2 S4 H3 L5 P10 D7 115br 95sr O2 E3 T3 3 years
The greater size and more modern constructoin methods used in this new frigate allows a scouting variant with:
C2 S10 H2 L5 P3 D9 115br 95sr O2 E3 T4 3 year
@anon_user are we allowed to order a scouting variant as well as a new P frigate, as they share the same principal hull?
The second option i have made designs for is:
C2 S3 H2 L4 P9 D6 100br 80sr O1 E2 T2 2,25 years
A version with less diplomatic facilities but a stronger hull exists:
C2 S3 H3 L4 P8 D5 95br 75sr O1 E2 T2 2,25 years
As both will take multiple years before the first ship is completed i recommend the
and as out new generalist 1Mt cruiser design
- Request Start of Diplomatic Envoy Frigate project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 32 pp
Examples of these are:
C2 S5 H2 L5 P11 D7 115br 105sr O2 E3 T3 3 years
C2 S4 H3 L5 P10 D7 115br 95sr O2 E3 T3 3 years
The greater size and more modern constructoin methods used in this new frigate allows a scouting variant with:
C2 S10 H2 L5 P3 D9 115br 95sr O2 E3 T4 3 year
@anon_user are we allowed to order a scouting variant as well as a new P frigate, as they share the same principal hull?
The second option i have made designs for is:
- Request Start of Kepler Envoy Variant development, 4 turns, 20 pp
C2 S3 H2 L4 P9 D6 100br 80sr O1 E2 T2 2,25 years
A version with less diplomatic facilities but a stronger hull exists:
C2 S3 H3 L4 P8 D5 95br 75sr O1 E2 T2 2,25 years
As both will take multiple years before the first ship is completed i recommend the
- Request Start of Renaissance Envoy Variant development, 5 turns, 25 pp
and as out new generalist 1Mt cruiser design
- Request Start of Renaissance-A Vanguard refit, 5 turns, 25 pp
EDIT: Based on my own logic of reviewing the minimum year we need to order UP2, I must accept that we need to order it this year.
Therefore I am disowning the plan below and voting for:
[][COUNCIL] Plan UP2 Compromise Version
[][COUNCIL] Briefvoice 2324 Snakepit Plan
chen bonus: -1 Qtr (total) for parallel builds at shipyards without an HIP, 25% pp discount for anything built in STO space.
Total = 379 pp
[X][STARKIN] Aerocommando Research Corps (Personal Tech, Skill 4)
[X][STARKIN] Laudon Orbital Construction (Ship Design - Frigate/Starship Construction, Skill 2)
[X][KED] Utopia Planitia Tactical Design Bureau (Weapons/Ship Design - Capital, Skill 3)
Therefore I am disowning the plan below and voting for:
[][COUNCIL] Plan UP2 Compromise Version
chen bonus: -1 Qtr (total) for parallel builds at shipyards without an HIP, 25% pp discount for anything built in STO space.
Request Mining Colony 77 Azzadi IV-3, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turnsRequest Mining Colony 17 Onidesin IV, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turnsRequest Research Colony Galoria Delta-LXIg, 6pp, 5 (9) rp/year, 4 turnsRequest Research Colony Barradus IV, 6pp, 6 (10) rp/year, 4 turnsRequest development of Utopia Planitia, 36pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <Arqueniou>, 60pp* .75 = 45pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)Request new Starbase I [Seyek-Cardassian Border Zone - Hacitorus] 20pp * .75 = 15ppRequest new Starbase I [Ferasa Sector - Risa] 32ppRequest focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Outer Space Alliance) [Can be taken up to five times]Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Felis) [Can be taken up to five times]Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Licori) [Can be taken up to five times]Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Bolians) [Can be taken up to five times]Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (Dreamers) [Can be taken up to five times]Request Academy Development, 50pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)Request Explorer Corps Annex Development, 25pp (Gain +0.15 EC O/E/T throughput)Request Start of Renaissance-A Vanguard refit, 5 turns, 25 ppRequest Start of Renaissance Envoy Variant development, 5 turns, 25 pp
Total = 379 pp
[X][STARKIN] Aerocommando Research Corps (Personal Tech, Skill 4)
[X][STARKIN] Laudon Orbital Construction (Ship Design - Frigate/Starship Construction, Skill 2)
[X][KED] Utopia Planitia Tactical Design Bureau (Weapons/Ship Design - Capital, Skill 3)
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Urgh I don't like this, those bloody cardassians could learn all sort things from capturing them and studying their tactics in real condition.
Considering how they won, its only a matter of time due to those bloody turncoats seeded throughout the land.
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[X][COUNCIL] Plan Rennie-Envoy, UP2, Coreward Diplo, Research Colonies
Colonies picked for RP first (as we are finally on the low end and it looks like the RP sinks will continue until morale improves), then income. No thought to location, HKP is crucial though.
Starbase is a crucial defensive location, the STO did not build there, and we need it to complete our ambition.
Bolian push up for debate, I could see the Ittick-Ka, Gorn, Bajorans, or any number of people in that 5th slot.
[X][STARKIN] Aerocommando Research Corps (Personal Tech, Skill 4)
[X][STARKIN] Laudon Orbital Construction (Ship Design - Frigate/Starship Construction, Skill 2)
[X][KED] Utopia Planitia Tactical Design Bureau (Weapons/Ship Design - Capital, Skill 3)
- Request Mining Colony Falling Down, 6pp, 20 (35) br/year, 4 turns (7 before Chen 25% discount)
- Request Mining Colony 17 Onidesin IV, 7pp, 20 (40) sr/year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony Barradus IV, 6pp, 6 (10) rp/year, 4 turns
- Request Research Colony Galoria Delta-LXIg, 6pp, 5 (9) rp/year, 4 turns
- Request new Starbase I [Seyek Border Zone - Hacitorus] 15pp (20 before Chen 25% discount)
- Request new Starbase I [Risa] 32pp
- Request Academy Development, 50pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
- Request Start of Renaissance-A Vanguard refit, 5 turns, 25 pp
- Request Start of Renaissance Envoy Variant development, 5 turns, 25 pp
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Dreamers]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Licori]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Felis]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Outer Space Alliance]
- Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Bolians]
- Sponsor efforts for a Major Shipyard Preparations to pave the way for a Utopia Planitia style shipyard, 4 turns, 110pp
- 382pp total
Colonies picked for RP first (as we are finally on the low end and it looks like the RP sinks will continue until morale improves), then income. No thought to location, HKP is crucial though.
Starbase is a crucial defensive location, the STO did not build there, and we need it to complete our ambition.
Bolian push up for debate, I could see the Ittick-Ka, Gorn, Bajorans, or any number of people in that 5th slot.
[X][STARKIN] Aerocommando Research Corps (Personal Tech, Skill 4)
[X][STARKIN] Laudon Orbital Construction (Ship Design - Frigate/Starship Construction, Skill 2)
[X][KED] Utopia Planitia Tactical Design Bureau (Weapons/Ship Design - Capital, Skill 3)
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FYI
Remaining Colony Options
Adrazzi Gulf (and adjacent) Sites
77 Azzadi IV-3 20 (40) SR/year
Located spin-corewards corner of -1f. (Well towards Federation side of Adrazzi Gulf.)
Description: Deposit of Icurium ores on the third moon of 77 Azzadi IV. Like at the Castor IV-2 vein, strong magma convection currents pull the ores towards the surface, then back down.
17 Onidesin IV, 20 (40) sr/year
Located -2g, tailwards.
Description: An exploitable vein of Woninium on 17 Onidesin IV, about half a kilometer under the planetary ocean's surface. A mining colony here would be only a modest technical challenge.
Galoria Delta-LXIg, 5 (9) rp per year.
Located in -4f, near Hajatar. (Near the Adrazzi Gulf, at Spinwards end of Straits of Themis.)
Description: This is a fascinating system [nearly three hundred separate planetoid or larger stellar bodies, of which at least one is a full M-class world, three are capable of supporting life and another five rate a solid .8 on the terraformability scale]. Just the stellar mechanics of its formation alone could keep an entire university department busy for the next sixty years, nevermind everything else [the atmosphere of Galoria Delta-LXIg contains a form of silicon based pseudo-prion capable of bypassing standard Starfleet filters].
(potentially) Politically Important Sites
Barradus IV 6 (10) rp/year)
Located in -2B. (On border between Vulcan sector and RBZ.)
Descripton: Inhabited by Bropal, a splinter Vulcan culture that have perfected mind-meld and katra-manipulating techniques that allow them to preserve the identities of the long dead in the form of...exchangeable personality fragments. They have an ancient computer backup facility that retains knowledge of the entire state of the Vulcans' known galaxy at the time of the exodus.
Analysis: The Vulcans really want this information, but can only get it when Starfleet builds the colony. Building it might even earn a little political goodwill or pp rebate.
LOL, So Far Away Sites
HKP-426, 7 (11) rp/year
Located coreward side of -8f. (Far beyond Federation borders rimwards, past Imelak territory and likely bordering the Ittick-ka.)
Description: Space around star is slides into parallel universe with exotic physics, not to mention exotic xenobiology in the form of the teleporting organisms.
Analysis: Neat, but not neat enough to support a research colony that far out and vulnerable to the Ittick-ka.
PLY-5000, 5(20) br/year
Located at H,7. (Coreward of Breen and far from Federation borders.)
Description: A giant asteroid made of gold.
Analysis: From update, "I realise that this site is so far from Federation borders that it's almost certainly going to be a liability to try to mine the remains of PLY-5000-Ia. Still, it's good to have this in the ol' memory banks for future reference or in case someone really wants gold for some reason!"
Everything Else
RVL-7836-VII 10 (30) sr/year
Located located at B5, 4ly tailwards of Canun.
Description: Analysing their geological report shows that RVL-7836-VII has ideal conditions for setting up a mining outpost that can siphon the molten magnesite to the surface through a series of force fields and then cooled for ease of transport.
Sarcissa Belt, 15 (30) BR/year
Located in bottom-left corner of -4f
Description: Tritanium deposits in planetary debris field (in Rethelia sector, near border with Cardassian-controlled Bajoran space).
Morgana-1321 rp Colony +5 (9) RP per month
Located at Coreward region of f,3 (In Gabriel expanse, coreward of currently claimed Federation territory.)
Description: Atemporal waves sweeping around the Star Morgana-1321, a small window to the end of the universe.
Analysis: Includes quantum filaments. Narratively cool, but as area is claimed for Federation by treaty the only real threat is the ISC claiming it first, and they'd take years to expand that far.
23 Levar VIII, 15 (35) SR/year
Located at e3 (just coreward of current Gabriel borders)
Description: Brospeh leeched valuable resources out of 23 Levar VIII, leaving it in an easily accessible ring around the planet.
Analysis: Pretty safe and just coreward of current Federation borders in Gabriel. Good choice for safe source of SR.
Falling Down (a-622), 20 (35) br/yr
Located in -6d. (Rimward edge of Rethelia sector.)
Description: A gas giant similar to Sol-V has a captive moon with an orbit that has decayed enough to bring it into the intense radiation belt of the gas giant. This charged the large tritanium deposits in the moon's crust. A mining colony in this location should either invest in heavier emitters or move the orbit of the moon permanently. It's relatively small mass would make this operation time consuming, but with mass-lightening bubbles and patience, it is plausible.
Analysis: Not the safest colony option ever, but it would be a nice forward position against Lecarre space.
CA-113, 15 (25) sr/yr
Located in upper right corner of 1c, near the Pure Intent research colony coreward of the Yrillians.
Description: The moon has been recombined, and is now more an irregular, glowing lump. Which means it's also irradiated in addition to being irregular. We've pulled back a bit, but I think if you set up a nice station and got some shielded workbees, this could be a pretty nice resource site.
Analysis: Well, it's near another colony and will made for a nice claim on that area of space if the Yrillians ever join the Federation.
LM-34-V-XL, b0, 20 (35) br/year
Located in b0. (Tellar sector, one of the safest places in the Federation these days.)
Description: Gas giant moon with a core of polysilicate verterium left from an impact with another asteroid.
Analysis: Nothing special other than it's a nice safe source of BR.
Aeneid III, (rimward of Betazed in Sol sector), 15 (35) sr/year
Located in b0. (Tellar sector, one of the safest places in the Federation these days.)
Description: M-Class planet that is stormy, turbulent, and has some pretty powerful background radiation, but is a beautiful earth-like planet, with the works: continents, oceans, a variety of biomes. The sun is throwing out a huge amount of heavy elements, made by a weird synthesis process. When these hit the Aeneid III magnetic field, they're getting trapped, and they like to collide with other captured debris. This makes the planet a natural source of Norvidium, something only ever found artificially and produced painstakingly in labs. Setting up some orbital habitats to start collecting this stuff would really make some warp plasma coolant manufacturers happy.
Analysis: Nicer source of SR in a safe part of space; might also have Major Colony potential.
Kr'ritti V, center of -5b, 15 (35) sr/year
Location: Located at center of -5b. (edge of Ferasa sector, bordering gap to Dawiar space
Description: The Kr'ritti system is one of the most astounding sights in the galaxy. The subspace storms actually have a locus here - a variety of exotic matter in the star's composition interacts with a stable subspace tear where the third planet used to be. There is some speculation that it was once inhabited, and lost during the age of the Tkon.
Great coruscating arcs of light shoot between planets in the system, some of which may have been terraformable in the distant past, but these days the radiation is just too strong. Only the fifth planet, a gas giant so large it was nearly a brown dwarf, is the electro-magnetic sheath strong enough to protect an installation. The interaction of these subspace energy bolts is generating a cornucopia of isotopes used in deflectors, EPS load balancers, and other purposes.
Remaining Colony Options
Adrazzi Gulf (and adjacent) Sites
77 Azzadi IV-3 20 (40) SR/year
Located spin-corewards corner of -1f. (Well towards Federation side of Adrazzi Gulf.)
Description: Deposit of Icurium ores on the third moon of 77 Azzadi IV. Like at the Castor IV-2 vein, strong magma convection currents pull the ores towards the surface, then back down.
17 Onidesin IV, 20 (40) sr/year
Located -2g, tailwards.
Description: An exploitable vein of Woninium on 17 Onidesin IV, about half a kilometer under the planetary ocean's surface. A mining colony here would be only a modest technical challenge.
Galoria Delta-LXIg, 5 (9) rp per year.
Located in -4f, near Hajatar. (Near the Adrazzi Gulf, at Spinwards end of Straits of Themis.)
Description: This is a fascinating system [nearly three hundred separate planetoid or larger stellar bodies, of which at least one is a full M-class world, three are capable of supporting life and another five rate a solid .8 on the terraformability scale]. Just the stellar mechanics of its formation alone could keep an entire university department busy for the next sixty years, nevermind everything else [the atmosphere of Galoria Delta-LXIg contains a form of silicon based pseudo-prion capable of bypassing standard Starfleet filters].
(potentially) Politically Important Sites
Barradus IV 6 (10) rp/year)
Located in -2B. (On border between Vulcan sector and RBZ.)
Descripton: Inhabited by Bropal, a splinter Vulcan culture that have perfected mind-meld and katra-manipulating techniques that allow them to preserve the identities of the long dead in the form of...exchangeable personality fragments. They have an ancient computer backup facility that retains knowledge of the entire state of the Vulcans' known galaxy at the time of the exodus.
Analysis: The Vulcans really want this information, but can only get it when Starfleet builds the colony. Building it might even earn a little political goodwill or pp rebate.
LOL, So Far Away Sites
HKP-426, 7 (11) rp/year
Located coreward side of -8f. (Far beyond Federation borders rimwards, past Imelak territory and likely bordering the Ittick-ka.)
Description: Space around star is slides into parallel universe with exotic physics, not to mention exotic xenobiology in the form of the teleporting organisms.
Analysis: Neat, but not neat enough to support a research colony that far out and vulnerable to the Ittick-ka.
PLY-5000, 5(20) br/year
Located at H,7. (Coreward of Breen and far from Federation borders.)
Description: A giant asteroid made of gold.
Analysis: From update, "I realise that this site is so far from Federation borders that it's almost certainly going to be a liability to try to mine the remains of PLY-5000-Ia. Still, it's good to have this in the ol' memory banks for future reference or in case someone really wants gold for some reason!"
Everything Else
RVL-7836-VII 10 (30) sr/year
Located located at B5, 4ly tailwards of Canun.
Description: Analysing their geological report shows that RVL-7836-VII has ideal conditions for setting up a mining outpost that can siphon the molten magnesite to the surface through a series of force fields and then cooled for ease of transport.
Sarcissa Belt, 15 (30) BR/year
Located in bottom-left corner of -4f
Description: Tritanium deposits in planetary debris field (in Rethelia sector, near border with Cardassian-controlled Bajoran space).
Morgana-1321 rp Colony +5 (9) RP per month
Located at Coreward region of f,3 (In Gabriel expanse, coreward of currently claimed Federation territory.)
Description: Atemporal waves sweeping around the Star Morgana-1321, a small window to the end of the universe.
Analysis: Includes quantum filaments. Narratively cool, but as area is claimed for Federation by treaty the only real threat is the ISC claiming it first, and they'd take years to expand that far.
23 Levar VIII, 15 (35) SR/year
Located at e3 (just coreward of current Gabriel borders)
Description: Brospeh leeched valuable resources out of 23 Levar VIII, leaving it in an easily accessible ring around the planet.
Analysis: Pretty safe and just coreward of current Federation borders in Gabriel. Good choice for safe source of SR.
Falling Down (a-622), 20 (35) br/yr
Located in -6d. (Rimward edge of Rethelia sector.)
Description: A gas giant similar to Sol-V has a captive moon with an orbit that has decayed enough to bring it into the intense radiation belt of the gas giant. This charged the large tritanium deposits in the moon's crust. A mining colony in this location should either invest in heavier emitters or move the orbit of the moon permanently. It's relatively small mass would make this operation time consuming, but with mass-lightening bubbles and patience, it is plausible.
Analysis: Not the safest colony option ever, but it would be a nice forward position against Lecarre space.
CA-113, 15 (25) sr/yr
Located in upper right corner of 1c, near the Pure Intent research colony coreward of the Yrillians.
Description: The moon has been recombined, and is now more an irregular, glowing lump. Which means it's also irradiated in addition to being irregular. We've pulled back a bit, but I think if you set up a nice station and got some shielded workbees, this could be a pretty nice resource site.
Analysis: Well, it's near another colony and will made for a nice claim on that area of space if the Yrillians ever join the Federation.
LM-34-V-XL, b0, 20 (35) br/year
Located in b0. (Tellar sector, one of the safest places in the Federation these days.)
Description: Gas giant moon with a core of polysilicate verterium left from an impact with another asteroid.
Analysis: Nothing special other than it's a nice safe source of BR.
Aeneid III, (rimward of Betazed in Sol sector), 15 (35) sr/year
Located in b0. (Tellar sector, one of the safest places in the Federation these days.)
Description: M-Class planet that is stormy, turbulent, and has some pretty powerful background radiation, but is a beautiful earth-like planet, with the works: continents, oceans, a variety of biomes. The sun is throwing out a huge amount of heavy elements, made by a weird synthesis process. When these hit the Aeneid III magnetic field, they're getting trapped, and they like to collide with other captured debris. This makes the planet a natural source of Norvidium, something only ever found artificially and produced painstakingly in labs. Setting up some orbital habitats to start collecting this stuff would really make some warp plasma coolant manufacturers happy.
Analysis: Nicer source of SR in a safe part of space; might also have Major Colony potential.
Kr'ritti V, center of -5b, 15 (35) sr/year
Location: Located at center of -5b. (edge of Ferasa sector, bordering gap to Dawiar space
Description: The Kr'ritti system is one of the most astounding sights in the galaxy. The subspace storms actually have a locus here - a variety of exotic matter in the star's composition interacts with a stable subspace tear where the third planet used to be. There is some speculation that it was once inhabited, and lost during the age of the Tkon.
Great coruscating arcs of light shoot between planets in the system, some of which may have been terraformable in the distant past, but these days the radiation is just too strong. Only the fifth planet, a gas giant so large it was nearly a brown dwarf, is the electro-magnetic sheath strong enough to protect an installation. The interaction of these subspace energy bolts is generating a cornucopia of isotopes used in deflectors, EPS load balancers, and other purposes.
Maelore
Totaly not a Romulan
- Location
- Fairfax, VA
I would honestly think the Gorn are a higher priority at this time than the Bolians. If we have to "lose" them to the HoH that is better than the Gorn allying the Ashidi Pact.
@Briefvoice, Do we currently need another auxiliary yard? I thought our transport infrastructure was catching up?
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
@SynchronizedWritersBlock @Briefvoice Didn't we already start the Second Utopia Planitia shipyard project in the 2323 snakepit?
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
Pretty sure that one is still under construction.
Not according to the winning vote post after 2323 snake pit:
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
It's like, we were never going to be able to get a fleet over there faster than the Cardassians could attack. Not unless the Cardassians inexplicably locked the keys in the ignition of all their spaceships and got out to use the bathroom, or something stupid like that.
What we could have credibly threatened to do would be to avenge the Chrystovians- to launch an offensive elsewhere in their space.
If we can't make that threat stick next time, we're going to be in the same situation with the Allupii or whoever gets hit next.
- Location
- Aotearoa
The hope or intent was that this threat would stall their offensive, or force them to commit less of a TF to Chrystovia, but as it turns out it was was over so fast we'd probably not have mustered our fleet, before the Cardies were done. Not saying they don't need something of an occupation fleet, but it's not gotta be huge.
Better hedge our bets and affiliate Ittick-Ka faster since Gorn is going to be slow small pushes due to opposition, who knows how long our advantages with Ittick-Ka last.
Bolian is not worth it due to how far off we're with them.
I suggest both the Vanguard-Rennie and the Envoy-Rennie unless the really good Vanguard-Rennie require 2328 tech.
P10 cruiser in 4Q, sounds like a good deal.