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- Australia
Scalability, focus on the scalability, and don't let yourself get bogged down.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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- Aotearoa
As revealed to me on Discord, a T5 Communications slide contains an Intelligence Module (think super-spy Miranda rollbar, I presume). An Oberth is small enough to be a module for a Cruiser.
See the pattern here? The T'Mir is *clearly* a super-advanced T5 2245 Intelligence Module with nacelles sent back in time by Office 0 to ensure the continuity of the Federation. It's so obvious to me now. I just hope it manages to kill Sarah Connor, I mean avert whatever disaster befalls the future Fed. Again.
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- Australia
Before any postapocalyptica ensues, that's been sitting in the research post for like fifty years now.
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
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- United States
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
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- USoA
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This season of To Boldly Go is going to end with Enterprise gattaing with the T'Mir isn't it.
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
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- United States
Everyone gets T'Mir'd. Not exceptions.
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- Australia
USS T'Mir, the only ship whose Honiani mural requires a SFI decoder ring and special glasses to read.
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- Australia
Hey guys, I've expanded this set of pages on the wiki to include all individual offices:
Starfleet Intelligence Command - To Boldly Go
Starfleet Intelligence Command - To Boldly Go
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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- Behind You
Starfleet Intelligence Operations Command - To Boldly Go
Huh, we still have a Syndicate Desk. Is that really necessary? Also, are there supposed to be two Office 16's or is it just one Office with two tasks?
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- Australia
You never wiped it out, you just turned it back into a crime gang instead of a deep-state shadow-government civil insurgency.
Himmelhand
Giant Sinkhole 2020
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- Midwestern US
With our task forces on the Trill and Adrazzi Gulf finishing their missions, we have some options to play with. We should probably put something on affiliating the Ur'razzi so they don't cause disruption in that region. There are enough problems there as it is.
We also have the Bolians, the Licori, and the Felis as potential key targets. With the OSA tag close to clearing, should we actually consider breaking up Beyond into three smaller, more focused task forces?
We also have the Bolians, the Licori, and the Felis as potential key targets. With the OSA tag close to clearing, should we actually consider breaking up Beyond into three smaller, more focused task forces?
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Like!
Lots of players dont understand the numbers various technologies give, and I have been wanting more fluff for the research teams for a while.
Make research logs!
:lol Oh Straak. I missed you after you got promoted.
No relations with Bajorans?
...Saitama?
But simultaneously, he needs trust and support from the nobles. Or he is Emperor in name only. His is a very nasty balancing act.
Also Licory radicals are probably more then used to law not mattering, they might well not care that (if) he broke it.
The OSA guys were pirates with info that could prevent a war. Thats... not a bad reason to do such a thing in the eyes of many, especialy in Licory society that is used to far worse.
The whole of Licory situation is a volatile cluster****, and disarming it needs a lot of care, competence, and time. Or a lit match and a staggering amount of corpses, for the chance to build an interstellar polity from the wreckage that doesnt suck quite so much.
Hopefully.
We might want to send a TF there to help them fix things before they blow up.
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- Mid-Atlantic
We very well might. A "civilize the Licori" task force would not go amiss at all, and it's got a good chance of not be opposed by any organized force.
In my book that's a long-term ambition alongside the Ittick-ka.
Lugis isn't 'my' character the way Halkh is. I don't think Lugis specifically intends to revolutionize the system, but I'm quite sure he intends to reform it. You're certainly not wrong to point out how this decision was suboptimal in important ways, on top of being, well, wrong.
Though I'm pretty sure, just based on how shitty the political system is, that ordering a captive with important information tortured isn't as far outside the Overton window of Licori politics as we'd like. That's one part of why the Licori so obviously NEED reform to be anywhere near worthy of Federation membership, as opposed to just being a state with politics we don't always like but can integrate into our system.
My thought would be to shift Boldly to working on the Licori and Bolians (who are close together), spin off a new task force specifically to work on the Felis (coordinating with the ISC).
Meanwhile, the task force working on the Trill should (maybe with some alterations) be sent to take care of the Ur'razzi (spelling?). The survey task force should either be dispersed back into regular fleet service or sent to some new scientific mission, possibly with Excalibur joining Task Force Royal along with other ships.
However, I don't think we should do much of this until the OSA war arc is wound down, HOPEFULLY before the next Task Force vote. That frees up Unity/Buckler and its huge wealth of ships.
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pheonix89
Wants to be Seven Of Nine
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- North American Plaguelands
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It didn't show on my end the first time.
Either you edited it in while I was typing or it didn't load.
I STILL think you're absurdly overly hostile, but I'll agree that he's responsible for that incident whether it was a deliberate order by implication or just failing to deny the option.
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- Austria
I am not sure I like the sound of "Mission To Civilize" tbh. What's next, Federation Citizen Burden?
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- Grandview
I agree both are a bit patronizing.
Gently reform would be better then mission to civilize.
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
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- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Okay, now we have to name the TF we send to fix the Licori TF Kipling.
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- Illinois
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- He/Him
Looking at the battle, the Breen are, to the surprise of no one, using Lone Ranger doctrine. Rapid Shield Roll was not applied, meaning that maybe it is now only being applied when outnumbered 2:1, or possibly the Breen don't have it somehow. The Romulans are using Combined Fleet, but we've known that for a while. Haven't found any evidence so far of other doctrines being in play, however, from either side. In other news related to the battle, I'm actually worried about the fact that the Breen aren't preparing for a ground invasion. It could be that the Romulans have been really putting the hurt into their auxiliaries, but we haven't seen any other sign of that. It could also be that they don't have enough for other reasons, but I find that odd as well, if they've been building up to this war the whole time. Though, that could be interesting, if they put so much effort into the battle fleet that they're now totally unable to sustain ground operations, because they don't have the supplies.
The worrisome scenario, I think, is the one where the Breen decide, either because they don't want the casualties of the ground campaign, or because of a lack of auxiliaries, to simply threaten the Romulan colony with orbital bombardment if they don't surrender. The one counterpoint here is that the Breen are in this to acquire resources and territory, making it much harder for them to go through with any threats, and more likely for the Romulans to call their bluff.
Also, apparently the Romulans have not had their disabled vessels destroyed (didn't see that in the update), and got their crews off, tilting the battle a little more in the Romulan's favor. I'm still worried about their berth losses, but the argument that this was a strategic Romulan victory is increasingly convincing.
The worrisome scenario, I think, is the one where the Breen decide, either because they don't want the casualties of the ground campaign, or because of a lack of auxiliaries, to simply threaten the Romulan colony with orbital bombardment if they don't surrender. The one counterpoint here is that the Breen are in this to acquire resources and territory, making it much harder for them to go through with any threats, and more likely for the Romulans to call their bluff.
Also, apparently the Romulans have not had their disabled vessels destroyed (didn't see that in the update), and got their crews off, tilting the battle a little more in the Romulan's favor. I'm still worried about their berth losses, but the argument that this was a strategic Romulan victory is increasingly convincing.
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- Mid-Atlantic
"Gently reform" is pretty much what Lugis is doing. The problem is that historically, the process of reform and evolution from the more or less medieval social system the Licori now have, to anything we'd call even remotely acceptable, took centuries to proceed to completion. Are we willing to wait that long?
Do you like the sound of "leave the Licori like this for a couple of hundred years more, or less?
I mean, if I called the Licori "a civilized species," I'd get a lot of pushback. Clearly, whatever it is they lack is important to our notion of civilization.
And since the Licori don't lack for technology, resources, large-scale engineering capability, or any of the other things we have besides human rights and a free-society government... That's the one. And that's what we intend to fix.
It'd be one thing if they were in the Iron Age, and the Prime Directive makes exceptions for such cases. But I don't actually favor waiting around for the Licori to sort themselves out, either by revolution or (with difficulty) by gradual step-by-step reformation within the system. The odds are good that by the time they accomplish either result, they'll have long since caused us a lot of avoidable problems.
We can call our efforts what we like, but I don't think 'civilize' is an unfair term. Many Licori would disagree- I know Halkh would- but if you take, for example, those Licori revolutionaries we took off of Khalt in the Aurora, they would vigorously agree.
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- Grandview
Oh I know my only nitpick was the wording used. There is the possibility that it may end up like the Orion campaign in some way.
Night
Widow Null
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- Hoff
Thanks to @anon_user for pointing out I missed one; the Kapit variant is now also on the wiki.
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Planetary occupation is really, really hard, and consists of psychological/political/propaganda campaigns, orbital strikes, enormous amounts of freight to get relevant numbers of personal on the ground, and a lot of time and resources.
Even if the Breen were able to afford these costs and could keep that planet in their hands from now on, the benefits would not be seen for the duration of this war most likely.
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If the Breen bombard a Romulan world from orbit, I'd hope we'd get a vote on whether to intervene militarily. The potential casualties are daunting.
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- Grandview
Depends on the accepted laws of war. If they are doing it on a resisting populace they may have cause depending on the severity of the strikes. If on a non resisting one they are breaking acceptable rule on holding the orbitals.