I can get behind that!
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I can get behind that!
Given the other votes, I would see this as less support for the Romulans and more gathering intelligence for our own purposes. We scout out the Breen, understand what their defenses are and what ships they have where, and then we decide how to use that information. It might go tot he Romulans, it might not.
But if you look at the other options, there is literally no third vote after "build an alliance" and this one that isn't acting against the Breen or supporting the Romulans in some way. And everybody was told to pick three options. I have to think that gathering information is about the least 'taking sides' of the choices.
Glitchrr36
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Just finished catching up, read the first 100 or so story posts a while back, then stopped. Now I've finished, and just in time for a clusterfuck.
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Honiani membership will always be only 1 year away.I half-expect the Romulans to join the UFP before the Honiani.
It's pretty much all speculation on my part, with plenty of leeway since I'm not a GM, nor do I have evil mind reading powers. As far s you know.
Entirely possible that it will go in a completely different direction, especially wit a Pacifist President. After all, we serve the Federation, so unless we declare a state of emergency, this is only partially under our control.
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Like a ranked vote?
Thebigpieman
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Welcome to the front! It's a bit shit right now but worry not we can fix this! Hopefully.
Welcome to the quest. Where blue Kirk is best Kirk, the Romulans aren't quite so backstabby, and the Breen are still dicks.
Keep your phaser and deflector dish close and you just might help us save the Federation from certain DOOM.
At least until the Borg come and then all bets are off.
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oh talking about the borg, doesn`t SF have like a office that somehow had and expert on them that we never knew about but showed up right after meeting ent-d
does that office exist here?
what is any R&D can we get from them?
does that office exist here?
what is any R&D can we get from them?
No clue. There is depressingly little that seems to work against those assimilating horrors. The best plan I can think of sits somewhere in between "throw everything we have and hope something sticks and RUN.
Forgothrax
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Depends on how the Borg are characterized. Are they a S threat like in TNG, or are they something we can fight straight up like DS9's Defiant?
Enerael
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A borg cube defeated by a swarm of Keplers. That would be a sight to see.
Yes! The Borg will be destroyed through the awesome power of SCIENCE!!!
In all fairness though the Keplers are a decent ship, especially if those new combat variations pan out.
Hmm, actually, that makes me interested - what's the highest S we can get out of the one ship, if we forget all other things and just decide that we really need something to make stars go nova?
Nervos Belli
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I seem to remember seeing a design for an S14 ship that was basically just a deflector dish strapped to a warp core.
I'm pretty sure the Ked Paddah and the Gaeni would have a fit if we went full mentat like that. Maybe if we run out of alternatives, but let's not go full MAD scientist unless we're forced to.
Enerael
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Oh, Kepler is an excellent ship, but it is very much not a combat one.
No Kepler combat refits btw, I am pretty sure that that design, and maybe even the omake, were jokes. Fun as it is, the Atomic class is too fragile for a vanguard frigate, and we are not diguising them as Keplers, making them useless. There is also the Jaffa project coming in a few years for our vanguard frigate needs.
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Forgothrax
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Frigate, Explorer, or Cruiser? Size max?
The Outrider class frigate I posted in the thread is a S10 ship that's quite durable and has high response. I suspect I could get S12+ on that hull size. Explorer... Yow.
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A few thoughts about the Borg:
1) They seem to adapt pretty well to any one thing, but hitting them with many different strategems and weapon types at once is likely to overwhelm their ability to adapt. It can't be magic; at some point their shields can't be optimized against EVERY mode of attack all at once.
2) Similar logic probably applies to tactics. A single Federation fleet that all operates against them the same way may in some ways be easier to adapt to than a bunch of diverse nutjobs who try lots of different tactics at once.
3) While we may find Voyager deplorable for whatever reason, it does at least suggest that the Borg may have fundamental, exploitable weak spots that we could strike at- somehow.
1) They seem to adapt pretty well to any one thing, but hitting them with many different strategems and weapon types at once is likely to overwhelm their ability to adapt. It can't be magic; at some point their shields can't be optimized against EVERY mode of attack all at once.
2) Similar logic probably applies to tactics. A single Federation fleet that all operates against them the same way may in some ways be easier to adapt to than a bunch of diverse nutjobs who try lots of different tactics at once.
3) While we may find Voyager deplorable for whatever reason, it does at least suggest that the Borg may have fundamental, exploitable weak spots that we could strike at- somehow.
Ok question
Are we operating under the same no cloaking devices in our ships rule that they had in TNG. I remember that it was part of some treaty with either the Romulans or the Klingons, but I can't remember which.
If not then we should take a look at the technology to see how useful it would be.
Are we operating under the same no cloaking devices in our ships rule that they had in TNG. I remember that it was part of some treaty with either the Romulans or the Klingons, but I can't remember which.
If not then we should take a look at the technology to see how useful it would be.
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
The answer to the Borg is a bunch of photon lances and Rialas backing a core of Starfleet ships.
Also possibly quantum torps. Anyone who knows the research system, how long would it take to get those if we races there?
Borg cubes are also heavy metal. With the fleet combat mechanics we have, that is a huge weakness, though probably mitigated by a unique doctrine/tech.
Also possibly quantum torps. Anyone who knows the research system, how long would it take to get those if we races there?
Borg cubes are also heavy metal. With the fleet combat mechanics we have, that is a huge weakness, though probably mitigated by a unique doctrine/tech.
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Forgothrax
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Yes, that treaty is still in force. The argument has also been made that, given this is Not An Empire Quest, that the Federation would not use cloaking devices anyway as it violates our ethos.
Also, given T'mir's shenanigans... Our ships can basically Science up a half decent cloak effect anyway.
Forgothrax
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The Cube is almost certainly treated like multiple ships in a hypothetical engine and probably has some sort of "force Heavy Metal phase" doctrine.
qTorps... Hard to say until next EAS. My guess is early 40s but we'll see. I will strongly advocate for focus on them as not doing so with Isolinear has caused significant issues with regards to refitting and was a strategic mistake.
Edit: oops, sorry for double.
If we're very, very lucky, we might even get the Voyager version!