It's operating on the logical conclusion of the prime directive to not only avoid interference with less advanced cultures, but also to prevent other cultures from interfering with them. The best way to avoid other cultures from interfering with one another is to only allow those cultures who have advanced their culture and society in equal measure to their technology to achieve warp drive technology. To do otherwise would be permitting slaver civilizations to rise within our territories to risk the prime directive in other life bearing worlds within Federation territory.

And this, gentlemen, is how you create the Compact of Species from The Last Angel.
 
And this, gentlemen, is how you create the Compact of Species from The Last Angel.
Precisely.

And that's even TLA canon. They basically started off as a UFP expy and then a long series of events caused a habit of doing things like that and that's how they got to where they are in canon.
 
Precisely.

And that's even TLA canon. They basically started off as a UFP expy and then a long series of events caused a habit of doing things like that and that's how they got to where they are in canon.

Googles. I love that you guys reference some obscure web serial on another message board like you expect that to be some common point of reference. I recall trying to read that story a year or so back, and it wasn't even very good.
 
Googles. I love that you guys reference some obscure web serial on another message board like you expect that to be some common point of reference. I recall trying to read that story a year or so back, and it wasn't even very good.

It is the biggest original fiction story on forum that this forum split off from. It isn't that obscure as you are making out to be. You got the reference after all.

And is the 'it was even very good' necessary or do you just feel like being provocative?
 
It is the biggest original fiction story on forum that this forum split off from. It isn't that obscure as you are making out to be. You got the reference after all.

And is the 'it was even very good' necessary or do you just feel like being provocative?
I think the point was he had to Google to figure out the reference. I did too. I haven't heard of this story until now.
 
I think the point was he had to Google to figure out the reference. I did too. I haven't heard of this story until now.

But he didn't he say that he had already attempted to read it?

Either way, I still find it rather provocative to just go and say "that work you are referencing? It sucks." That's pretty much asking for an argument back from the people making the references. If it wasn't for that fact that doing so would be a derail, I would be challenging Briefvoice on that statement.
 
But he didn't he say that he had already attempted to read it?

Either way, I still find it rather provocative to just go and say "that work you are referencing? It sucks." That's pretty much asking for an argument back from the people making the references. If it wasn't for that fact that doing so would be a derail, I would be challenging Briefvoice on that statement.

I googled it and when the reference came up I realized that this exact same scenario happened like a year ago (time frame possibly wildly off) when someone referenced the story (possibly in this very thread), I googled it, and found it was a spacebattles story. I remember trying to read a few chapters at that time and not getting very far.

You're right, my vague memory of bouncing off it for whatever reason probably isn't enough to call it "not very good". 'But maybe if I call it "not that good" people will not reference it in this thread anymore because they'll think it's not liked' is probably vaguely what I was thinking.
 
I googled it and when the reference came up I realized that this exact same scenario happened like a year ago (time frame possibly wildly off) when someone referenced the story (possibly in this very thread), I googled it, and found it was a spacebattles story. I remember trying to read a few chapters at that time and not getting very far.

You're right, my vague memory of bouncing off it for whatever reason probably isn't enough to call it "not very good". 'But maybe if I call it "not that good" people will not reference it in this thread anymore because they'll think it's not liked' is probably vaguely what I was thinking.
So, your goal is to stop about six guys from doing something they do once in a while because of them liking a thing. The plan is to walk into the middle of the six guys and tell them the thing they like is no good.

...On reflection, that doesn't sound like the kind of plan likely to survive contact with the enemy.

I can't do a Leslie response to that because I'm pretty sure Leslie, in character, doesn't know anything about the Temporal Cold War. :p

And this, gentlemen, is how you create the Compact of Species from The Last Angel.
Leslie:

"We had to destroy General Order One in order to save it?"
 
You're right, my vague memory of bouncing off it for whatever reason probably isn't enough to call it "not very good". 'But maybe if I call it "not that good" people will not reference it in this thread anymore because they'll think it's not liked' is probably vaguely what I was thinking.
So being outright condescending is the name of the game?
 
You're right, my vague memory of bouncing off it for whatever reason probably isn't enough to call it "not very good". 'But maybe if I call it "not that good" people will not reference it in this thread anymore because they'll think it's not liked' is probably vaguely what I was thinking.

...this doesn't really paint you in a better light.
 
But he didn't he say that he had already attempted to read it?

Either way, I still find it rather provocative to just go and say "that work you are referencing? It sucks." That's pretty much asking for an argument back from the people making the references. If it wasn't for that fact that doing so would be a derail, I would be challenging Briefvoice on that statement.

Star Trek sucks.
 
Peeps, Briefvoice is allowed to bounce off TLA, I know I did. It's not a value judgement, it's simple "Hmm, eh."
 
Bounce off? I don't understand what you are implying that.

You try to consume some form of media but it just doesn't quite click. For some reason you simply don't enjoy it. I read the first few chapters and went from "Hey interesting" to "I don't care about anything that's happening" pretty quick and I can't give you a clear answer as to why. I simply didn't enjoy it enough to keep reading.
 
You try to consume some form of media but it just doesn't quite click. For some reason you simply don't enjoy it. I read the first few chapters and went from "Hey interesting" to "I don't care about anything that's happening" pretty quick and I can't give you a clear answer as to why. I simply didn't enjoy it enough to keep reading.

Yeah, that's what happened when I started watching Star Trek: The Original Series the other day. Same with Babylon 5.

For me, To Boldly Go is going to my favourite Star Trek work.
 
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