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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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So to summarize, we don't know where the menant ship and the Enterprise went (Dragging a colony behind them guys, or at least frying all of the FTL comm gear) but we've got a few obvious options:
The Future TM​
The Past TM​
An Alternate Timeline
Mirror Universe
Kelvin Timeline
Prime Timeline (A More Canonical Crossover)
Pick a fanfic (One Good Man would be hilarious)
Trek wearing a hat from another franchise​
Really, really far away - the Stargazer special event option
Roll again, twice, and use both. Add extra technobabble.
 
Recently uncovered historical documents on Earth reveal that in addition to his unbelievable talent for invention, Leonardo Da Vinci had red skin, yellow eyes, and was, to quote the translated primary source, "kind of a dickhead."
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
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Was designed without input from the guy who designed the NX-01. If he says it's bullshit, it's bullshit.

Gravitas Hunt said:
I actually once had a post-First Contact story idea with that premise; Picard et al. don't want to cause any disruption, so they find an empty few hundred light-years and accelerate to extreme relativistic speeds or go into stasis or something. Of course, then the Kelvin gets blown up, and the whole Temporal Prime Directive goes out the airlock...
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Mind if I post that in the Star Trek Fanfic threads here and on SB?

Leila Hann said:
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Enterprise: You thought no one would be crazy enough to follow you through an unstable temporal Vortex? You thought wrong! The Explorer Corps deals with this shit on a daily basis!

aeqnai said:
Inb4 sometime a little less than 50 years ago a certain famous Explorer Corps ship was flying through the Aga Carmide system on the way to an assignment, when it noticed something unusual...
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Kirk and Nash in the same place? I'm not sure if the universe can handle that.
 
Nix said:
The Enterprise is probably going to be fine, if she was going to end up lost she would have gotten the reroll instead of the Atuin, the rolls were made at the same time and Oneiros only remembered the reroll afterwards, and it should be obvious which one we'd have preferred it to be used on.
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Of course the rerolls are for Five Year missions and the Enterprise was on a Licori war assignment.
 
Leila Hann said:
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"GET BACK HERE YOU LITTLE SCAMP-"

[Ka-VWOORRRP!!! ]

"Oh great. Another time adventure."

Briefvoice said:
I wonder if we should be a bit more worried. The rolls were really bad. This might be it for the Enterprise*, dying in the process of stopping mentats from destroying history itself.
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We'll see, but there's not much point in holding pre-emptive mourning sessions.

Enterprise:

"Now, if Kongo were still around, she'd be freaking out and wailing about how I was dead. But she always did that every few years, from the time she was laid down up through the '90s. She was almost always wrong, too. For some reason, she just couldn't stop assuming I must have been killed and no one could possibly have survived that. Very strange."
 
chriswriter90 said:
Out of Universe.
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"Doug Drexler had a concept for the development of Enterprise that was never used on the show. "My idea was that at the end of the fourth season, the ship would put into drydock for a major refit," he explained. "After four years, out there, dealing with unknowns, it would be time to upgrade the ship based on everything they had learned." [10](X) Drexler later assisted in the production of models of this "(SS) Enterprise NX-01 Refit" for Polar Lights and the Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection. A CG render of the ship also appeared in the Star Trek: Ships of the Line calendar."

On Trekyards he even talks about how he was disappointed they never got to the refit, because a lot of the choices they made on the NX would make more sense as a transition to TOS with it.
 
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"Doug Drexler had a concept for the development of Enterprise that was never used on the show. "My idea was that at the end of the fourth season, the ship would put into drydock for a major refit," he explained. "After four years, out there, dealing with unknowns, it would be time to upgrade the ship based on everything they had learned." [10](X) Drexler later assisted in the production of models of this "(SS) Enterprise NX-01 Refit" for Polar Lights and the Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection. A CG render of the ship also appeared in the Star Trek: Ships of the Line calendar."

On Trekyards he even talks about how he was disappointed they never got to the refit, because a lot of the choices they made on the NX would make more sense as a transition to TOS with it.
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I must be remembering the episode wrong or remembering a different episode with a different guest.
 
chriswriter90 said:
Personally, I'd put my money on Enterprise taking a surprise trip to the Prime Timeline.

During the Dominion War.

Vorta Dickhead: Soon our conquest of the Federation will be com-
Jen'Hadar: There's a new ship coming in, and a strange frequency on subspace.

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That'd be a bad-end for our Enterprise. Going against enemies with shield-piercing weapons and ship designs 70+ years more advanced than the Excelsior is a recipe for disaster.
 
Enterprise:

"I have not yet begun to fight!"

AKuz said:
It doesn't even need to be modern democracy, just, like an old British parliament.

A reduction in absolutism is what we want even power just moves down a couple rungs
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Hm.

If that makes the nobility's prerogatives stronger (a la the Polish Sejm), that could actually be bad for us. Remember that our fundamental problem with the Licori wasn't just the mad science. It was that the central government lacked the power to ban mad science that endangered non-Licori.

On the other hand, if it creates a situation where the nobility is stuck with collective responsibility for making the government actually work, instead of being able to obstruct the government because it is the personal property of an imperial house separate from themselves... then that might tend to improve things.

We want either centralization of power (accompanied by a responsible central authority figure), or decentralization of power (accompanied by a responsible distributed government). Either suits our war aims just fine.
 
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Simon_Jester said:
Enterprise:

"I have not yet begun to fight!"

Hm.

If that makes the nobility's prerogatives stronger (a la the Polish Sejm), that could actually be bad for us. Remember that our fundamental problem with the Licori wasn't just the mad science. It was that the central government lacked the power to ban mad science that endangered non-Licori.

On the other hand, if it creates a situation where the nobility is stuck with collective responsibility for making the government actually work, instead of being able to obstruct the government because it is the personal property of an imperial house separate from themselves... then that might tend to improve things.

We want either centralization of power (accompanied by a responsible central authority figure), or decentralization of power (accompanied by a responsible distributed government). Either suits our war aims just fine.
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I'd be fine with something like:

"Bene get the Emperorship. Fine. But it's a constitutional position. Limited by laws. Then all /ALL/ the houses get seats in the Lords (Tartesis get extra though. Tee hee). And the mentats and property holders vote for the Commons"

I can live with a constitutional monarchy.

Especially because I bet that Nash and Halkh spent a lot time talking over the Andorian Monarchy and Nash going "Let me tell you what worked, and what will get you a war"
 
Hazard said:
To be fair, depending on the specifics trying to limit the power of the powerful pretty much always gets you a war unless you can convince them it's for their own betterment to accept the limitation of power. Just ask the Orions for a recent example.
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The thing is... the Bene are still getting more power, just not quite as much. The minor houses are getting a huge jump in relevance, the I'd and NotHarkonen are probably just happy not to be occupied thrall, and the Tartesis will probably control the Lords from having more seats and being the ones to set things in place. And then the commoners with power have more influence than ever before.

Thanks to the power vacuum left by us blowing away the Emperor and occupying two major worlds, everyone moves up. The trick is to make sure that's what's left is distributed in a beneficial way.

I mean, from their perspective we could roll in and impose our rule and it would be exactly what they would expect. The shock of continued independence is probably doing us a lot of good and getting us a lot of gratitude.
 
Winged One said:
I thought our opsec was too shitty for us to pull that bluff off?
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Yes.

It's what they are culturally primed for though. And it's what pretty much anyone else in the area would have done in some capacity.

Edit: Its what they would expect from losing a war. Not from us specifically. Just in general.
 
AKuz said:
The thing is... the Bene are still getting more power, just not quite as much. The minor houses are getting a huge jump in relevance, the I'd and NotHarkonen are probably just happy not to be occupied thrall, and the Tartesis will probably control the Lords from having more seats and being the ones to set things in place. And then the commoners with power have more influence than ever before.

Thanks to the power vacuum left by us blowing away the Emperor and occupying two major worlds, everyone moves up. The trick is to make sure that's what's left is distributed in a beneficial way.

I mean, from their perspective we could roll in and impose our rule and it would be exactly what they would expect. The shock of continued independence is probably doing us a lot of good and getting us a lot of gratitude.
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Even if they are grateful for the fact that we don't conquer them I have my doubts that this gratitude is more than their hate/dislike due to us attacking them, destroying their fleets, allying with their arch-nemesis and currently conducting a likely bloody pacification campaign on of their major planets...
 
aeqnai said:
I'll grant the other points but like, no one gives a shit about Gammon. Hell, some of them are probably cheering us on.
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They might not feel too sorry for Gammon, but in the back of their minds they'll be wondering "are we next?" After all, they all use mentats too, even if they aren't as bad as Gammon. We've just exploded Licori society, and even for those who stand to gain from it, that must be extremely unnerving. Plus we did kill a bunch of Tartresis and Bene ships, including their fancy and expensive cruisers.
 
Wild Speculation Alert.
Simon_Jester has talked about running his own quest, set a little earlier in the Star Trek timeline. What if the TBG Enterprise is going to wind up there, as a source of conflict (temporal prime directive), or inspiration (look what we got from this ancient wreck) to a foe (the Licori managed to seize control)
 
Erandil said:
currently conducting a likely bloody pacification campaign on of their major planets...
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Given the orbital high ground and the fact that if the Baron shows he's in any way afraid of us he's probably just as dead as if we M/AM'd his palace from orbit (it's the only way to be sure!), I don't think it's going to be very bloody at all. You have to remember that the majority of Kortonenn subjects are at least as likely to greet Starfleet as liberators, while the House itself has based its rule on fear and repression.

They can't afford to look weak, even if they are weak compared to us, and that opens up a lot of exploitable opportunities.
 
Goat said:
Wild Speculation Alert.
Simon_Jester has talked about running his own quest, set a little earlier in the Star Trek timeline. What if the TBG Enterprise is going to wind up there, as a source of conflict (temporal prime directive), or inspiration (look what we got from this ancient wreck) to a foe (the Licori managed to seize control)
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I must note that all these developments are highly unlikely, barring other developments that are themselves staggeringly unlikely.
 
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