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[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]
[X] Engineering With Small Cargo Pod (+43,000 Tons Total) [-0.2 All Warp Factors]
 
[x] Engineering With Small Cargo Pod (+43,000 Tons Total) [-0.2 All Warp Factors]
 
Mechanis said:
[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]

okay, that is a much more large hull than I was expecting- wait. uh. @Sayle
if it's a 100m hull it should have a LOT more than 4 decks. specifically, it should have 26+, because that's the same diameter as the sphere. unless that's the length?

becuase uh. it will look comically tiny:
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Huh, yeah I was mentally thinking something shorter and thicker? Maybe around 10 decks or so?
 
Mechanis said:
[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]

okay, that is a much more large hull than I was expecting- wait. uh. @Sayle
if it's a 100m hull it should have a LOT more than 4 decks. specifically, it should have 26+, because that's the same diameter as the sphere. unless that's the length?

becuase uh. it will look comically tiny:
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n07iDruJs2c

Although all the ships look much better once the nacelle's are in.
 
[X] No Secondary Hull

It's probably not the best option, but I think it's the most fun. Besides a cheaper ship means that there can be more of them, and that means better coverage and more availability of spare parts, especially given that it's drive system isn't going to be sharing parts with it's faster contemporaries.
 
My fundamental issue with the large pod is that we are not trying to build a bulk freighter. We are trying to make an engineering ship.

That large of a warp speed drop will drastically reduce its utility in both the long term in general and the short term in non-cargo transportation roles. Speed is important!

That said. We have decided to orb. Lets not dilute it. Cheap and solid is my goal here.

[X] No Secondary Hull
 
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@Sayle

If we do end up with one of the cargo holds, a unique-ish idea would be to put two teleporter rooms on the ship. A normal, human rated one in the main hull and one in the engineering hull for bulk cargo.

We can use the one in the engineering hull to feed any manufacturing in the main hull. Would make it a great fleet supply tender.
 
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for the record, this is a 50m by 80m hull (IE, the rough upper range of what I was expecting):

and this is a 20m by 40m, aka the rough lower range of what I was expecting (still kinda silly-looking, but.):


edit: I should note this is largely informed by the canonical Olympic class, the main "big sphere ship", which has a fairly substantial secondary hull, as well as the overall size relationship between our previous sphere hull and its secondary hull.
 
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@Sayle I have a question. Does the ship NEED to fly every mission with a cargo pod?

Because if we have the option with the pod locks to fly faster without the bulky cargo containers, trading capacity for speed, that adds a ton of versatility.
 
[X] Engineering With Small Cargo Pod (+43,000 Tons Total) [-0.2 All Warp Factors]

A few more generations of sphere ships and redevelopment of warp-rings and we can build sphere ships from Perry Rhodan
 
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[X] Engineering With Large Cargo Pod (+130,000 Tons Total) [-1 All Warp Factors]
[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]
[X] No Secondary Hull

I'm of the mind that the best options here exist in the extremes. Either we build a ship that can build a star base by its self or ship that is so cheap and capable that the procurement board can't say no to it.
 
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[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]
[X] Engineering With Small Cargo Pod (+43,000 Tons Total) [-0.2 All Warp Factors]
 
[X] No Secondary Hull

Ahh, I really wanted the ORB.

Very funny to see how Death Star it looked this turn.

Maybe next time…. Or maybe a lucrehulk looking ship?
 
Mechanis said:
[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]

okay, that is a much more large hull than I was expecting- wait. uh. @Sayle
if it's a 100m hull it should have a LOT more than 4 decks. specifically, it should have 26+, because that's the same diameter as the sphere. unless that's the length?

becuase uh. it will look comically tiny:

edit: 4 decks would be a ~12 meter hull. (I assume about 3 meters for a deck.) that's very small.

you may want to make that more like 10 to 15 decks, at a minimum, for something closer to 50 meters (IE, half the diameter of the sphere)
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It'll probably end up getting tweaked for aesthetic reasons if it's only the engineering hull. But that works alright if it's just the interface for a cargo pod. Get some braces in there, etc. The initial design was contingent on the idea of there being a pod, after all.
 
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[X] Engineering Without Cargo Pod (+13,000 Tons) [100 Meters, 4 Decks]
[X] Engineering With Small Cargo Pod (+43,000 Tons Total) [-0.2 All Warp Factors]
 
Whilst not stated outright given the period of time we're getting into I imagine the cargo pod is some predecessor to the standard container pods (and derivatives) the Ptolemy-class uses.

If that is the case then even the ability to carry a small one could offer up a wide range of capabilities that just wouldn't otherwise be possible with the starship outside of considerable internal space concessions. A medical pod, a starliner pod (effectively colonial transport, but for people rather than materials), a personnel transport pod, a shuttle pod and any number of different types of cargo pods (ranging from livestock, to bulk storage, to cryogenics and much more) as well as the bog standard cargo types.
 
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