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SaltyWaffles said:
I think we should do another Stingray. "You asked us for a cargo ship, but we're giving you a warship, because you are stupid and don't know what you really need."
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Ehh... I think we should go with the assumption that this ship is the one that's going to be asked to ferry diplomats as part of the important cargo, we see a lot of the hero ships being used for that exact purpose, and the diplomats are usually being transported from another Starfleet vessel. I think this ship is meant to just do everything the federation asks of it that more specialized ships (warships and science ships both included) cant; because then they would be wasted in that position.

Of course we shouldn't skimp on the weapons, but that's just because like the other person said earlier Star Trek draws heavily from the age of sail, and pretty much every ship in ST is armed.

In other words: Star Trek Lower Decks
U.S.S. Cerritos from Star Trek: Lower Decks : r/StarshipPorn
 
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The brief is calling for a swiss army knife of a ship, but luckily cargo bays are very versatile things. We really don't need to think too hard on that portion of the ask imo, just slap a bay in there and we're golden.
 
LunaMoth said:
Ehh... I think we should go with the assumption that this ship is the one that's going to be asked to ferry diplomats as part of the important cargo, we see a lot of the hero ships being used for that exact purpose, and the diplomats are usually being transported from another Starfleet vessel. I think this ship is meant to just do everything the federation asks of it that more specialized ships (warships and science ships both) cant; because then they would be wasted in that position.

Of course we shouldn't skimp on the weapons, but that's just because like the other person said earlier Star Trek draws heavily from the age of sail, and pretty much every ship in ST is armed.

In other words: Star Trek Lower Decks
U.S.S. Cerritos from Star Trek: Lower Decks : r/StarshipPorn
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That's transport, not cargo, and generally speaking you aren't be going to be carrying that many people for diplomatic stuff anyway. The Galaxy-class could do that with ease while still designing itself quite well around its tactical systems and utilities.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
That's transport, not cargo, and generally speaking you aren't be going to be carrying that many people for diplomatic stuff anyway. The Galaxy-class could do that with ease while still designing itself quite well around its tactical systems and utilities.
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I mean the Utility ship, and forgive me for thinking in STO terms here, is I think meant to focus more on a engineering than a tactical rating. In Star trek, don't underestimate engineers, they are often shown to be somewhat space-wizard like.
In STO the three 'classes' offered to the player (this also extends to ships) are Tactical (Warrior), Science (healer/buffer), and engineering (Wizard/summoner).

Starfleet seems to use its exploration vessels somewhat like showpieces occasionally, that's why they are so good at everything, I was more-so referring to the fact that in a few episodes diplomats are being transferred to the hero ship from another background Starfleet ship (with occasionally that ships captain briefly talking to the heroes; though this happens in very few episodes) .
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
That's transport, not cargo, and generally speaking you aren't be going to be carrying that many people for diplomatic stuff anyway. The Galaxy-class could do that with ease while still designing itself quite well around its tactical systems and utilities.
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I shudder to think what kind of diplomatic effort could make a GALAXY strain itself.

If you haven't, go look up the scale model of a Galaxy with its entire 1000 man crew complement standing on the upper hull.
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
I shudder to think what kind of diplomatic effort could make a GALAXY strain itself.

If you haven't, go look up the scale model of a Galaxy with its entire 1000 man crew complement standing on the upper hull.
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here it is, I think it was partially the writers just throwing out the biggest number they thought sounded impressive enough TBH.
 
[X] Half-Saucer (150kt)


Future goal: Combine the quad nacelles of the Constellations with the variable-geometry of the canon Intrepids.

LOCK WARP ENGINES IN CRUISE POSITION!
 
I say we make this look as close to the Patrol Cruiser from STO as possible by putting the engineering hull on top of the saucer sandwiching the nacelles.
 
Plus that's probably not accounting for all the Not-crew people a Galaxy also is carrying, all the various spaces (for example everyone gets a freaking studio apartment) and the things we know exist but never see (matter tanks for the Replicators, loads and loads of Jefferies tubes, the actual physical machinery for the shields, structural integrity fields, atmosphere processing, etc etc etc) plus the actual hull members... There's probably a lot less deadspace than one might think given all the stuff galaxies are supposed to have.
 
[X] Half-Saucer (150kt)

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MJ12 Commando said:
Notional F-CLM (Light Cruiser, Multirole)
  • Half-Saucer (150c)
  • 2 x Imp (400c)
  • 2 x Am Pods (200c)
  • 3 x Shields (150k, 3i)
  • 2 x PhoT (6i)
  • 5 x Ph1 (15i)
Total: 750c/800c, 24i/24i
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Thanks for sketching these out, I find it helps wrap my head around it. Personally, I'm interested in the idea of being able to produce more of our workhorse by coming in under budget. Maybe something like:
  • Half-Saucer (150c)
  • 2 x Imp (400c) [3 total]
  • 1 x Am Pods (100c) [2 total]
  • 3 x Shields (150k, 3i)
  • 2 x PhoT (6i)
  • 4 x Ph1 (12i)
Total: 650c/800c, 21i/24i

Or maybe have it with 2 > 3 Imp and 1 > 0 Am Pods? My understanding is that like the survey ship this will be operating within the borders of the Federation, so I'm not sure how many extra antimatter pods we'd actually need.
 
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