Mechanis
Confirmed Extremely Screwed
- Location
- Absconding with Alacrity
That's pretty much my thoughts as well. Gotta have the legs for the "run away" part of "poke it with a stick and run away if it turns out that was a bad idea" after all.
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Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
- Pronouns
- They/Them
The "two phaser" option are both being mounted on the ventral side of the saucer. The "four phasers" are a mirrored set on the dorsal side as well.
- Location
- Seattle, Washington
[X] 0: Dual Engines (Maneuverability: Medium) [+4 Civilian Industry]
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[X] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[X] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Running away is done at warp, once you've broken orbit and are out of the gravity well. That step is made faster and easier, however.
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- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] 0: Dual Engines (Maneuverability: Medium) [+2 Civilian Industry]
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[x] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
Engines aren't a HUGE must-have, but they're pretty dang cheap. Might as well.
No torpedoes. Clearly.
Two phasers should be plenty, especially with the maneuverability to bring them to bear.
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[x] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
Engines aren't a HUGE must-have, but they're pretty dang cheap. Might as well.
No torpedoes. Clearly.
Two phasers should be plenty, especially with the maneuverability to bring them to bear.
- Location
- France
- Pronouns
- She/They
We barely have a stick
I really wish people hadn't already bandwagonned against torpedoes, I think the burst damage is exactly what you need on a ship that isn't interested in extended engagements. And you never know when you'll need to blow up an asteroid on a collision course or something equivalently stupid but plot relevant.
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
- Pronouns
- They/Them
There's been enough instances of "the ship needs to fly through that asteroid belt or debris field" to warrant some decent maneuverability, I'd say.
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I kinda agree with you, but the torpedoes unfortunately just take up too much precious internal space to be worthwhile in my mind. Most of that needs to go towards boosting the ship's Science score.
- Location
- EcksEcksEcksEcks
[X] 0: Dual Engines (Maneuverability: Medium) [+2 Civilian Industry]
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[x] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[x] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Torpedoes cost space, they're a nonstarter. And phase cannons could blow up mountains, phasers should be able to blow up asteroids just fine. Or finer or grosser things (being a Swiss Army knife being what phasers are best at).
Mechanis
Confirmed Extremely Screwed
- Location
- Absconding with Alacrity
The big thing is that I'm leery of any ship that can't outfight a B'Rel (the bittiest Klingon BoP) or a T'liss (the classical Romulan Warbird) at least on a 1-1 basis.
Which two phasers alone is really, really not gonna cut it.
Which two phasers alone is really, really not gonna cut it.
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Cope. If a survey ship goes up against a dedicated frigate, it dies unless it runs or gets lucky.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It's a survey/science ship, not a patrol ship nor frigate. Let the latter worry about birds of prey. I'd think the chances of a Brahe meeting a bird of prey would be pretty low since it'd be in safer areas, within the Federation.
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StriderInCosmos
Wanderer in the Worldsea
- Location
- Somewhere in... Terminal Dogma? I think?
The chances of this ship encountering a B'rel or a T'liss, I would think, are fairly slim to none, as it'll likely be sticking to the interior for quite some time while we get ships that could deal with such vessels online.
- Location
- Illinois
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'd wanted torpedoes if possible, but dual-forward only is just a lot of space to take up inside the hull for weapons on a science ship. The phasers give us plenty of firepower and at vastly reduced internal space demand.We barely have a stick
I really wish people hadn't already bandwagonned against torpedoes, I think the burst damage is exactly what you need on a ship that isn't interested in extended engagements. And you never know when you'll need to blow up an asteroid on a collision course or something equivalently stupid but plot relevant.
- Location
- The Netherlands
It's a bit of a shame it's 2 or none, 1 torpedo tube might have been more reasonable.We barely have a stick
I really wish people hadn't already bandwagonned against torpedoes, I think the burst damage is exactly what you need on a ship that isn't interested in extended engagements. And you never know when you'll need to blow up an asteroid on a collision course or something equivalently stupid but plot relevant.
Understandable, but this is a dedicated science ship. If it finds itself encountering a Warbird for some reason, either try to talk things out or turn about and run like hell. Two photonics wouldn't likely be enough to Alpha strike the thing anyway.
We know we're not going to see the Romulan's for the next 100 years, so matching them isn't an issue right now IMO, by then anything we'll have built right now will be obsolete and outmatched. The B'Rel-class OTOH looks like it was made in 2280, almost a hundred years from now. Of course a survey ship not meant to see combat isn't going to be able to match up with a Bird of Prey a hundred years more advanced.
[X] 0: Dual Engines (Maneuverability: Medium) [+2 Civilian Industry]
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[X] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
Extra maneuverability because it's cheap, no torpedoes so we can fit in MAXIMUM SCIENCE, and phasers because a science ship seems the perfect thing to test out new gubbins on (but 4 would be a bit much).
[X] 1: No Torpedoes
[X] 2: Two Phaser Emitters (+2 Average Damage) [+6 Starfleet Industry] [Prototype]
Extra maneuverability because it's cheap, no torpedoes so we can fit in MAXIMUM SCIENCE, and phasers because a science ship seems the perfect thing to test out new gubbins on (but 4 would be a bit much).
Mechanis
Confirmed Extremely Screwed
- Location
- Absconding with Alacrity
Those aren't frigates. They're gunboats with two disrupter cannons and a single tube torpedo launcher (the B'Rel) or three disrupter beam emitters (one of which is aft) a a torpedo launcher, for the T'liss.
B'rels especially have a crew of like eight.
For an actual frigate you're talking about a K'vort, which is visually identical to the B'Rel but four times bigger (double the length, width and height, and thus four times the internal volume).