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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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[X] Plan Knee A Priest In The Groin
-[X] Stoke Virthing (+33 Orthstirr)
-[X] 25d6 Attack (all tricks)
-[X] 12d6 Defense
-[X] 0d6 Intercept
-[X] Use Ember-Wing-Cloak (-12 Orthstirr) to close with Father Gerrit near instantly and make a 9d6 Knee-Groin-Trick (-1 Orthstirr) against him, make two 4d6 (5d6 w/Hugareida) Firebomb-Strikes (-8 Orthstirr, hoping to hit additional enemies) against him while he's dealing with the results of that, then two 5d6 Honed Power Chop attacks (-4 Orthstirr) to try and finish him off
-[X] In response to any melee Trick Attack first use Contested Movement (-3 Orthstirr) and if that doesn't work use Halting Vortex (-4 Orthstirr). In response to any ranged trick attack just use Halting Vortex (-4 Orthstirr). If we are attacked with a non-Trick attack use Reinforced Honed Defenses using our Defense dice (-2 Orthstirr each, 3d6 each). If we are out of Defense dice and it's a melee attack, use Contested Movement (-3 Orthstirr) on normal attacks, and if we are also out of Reinforce Shield and Armor and that doesn't work for any reason (including it being a ranged attack) use Halting Vortex (-4 Orthstirr) even on normal attacks to prevent Endurance loss.
-[X] Tactics – I mean, why mess with what works? Get into melee with the priest and go to town on him after a crotch shot.

So, I'm tempted to use Firebomb Strike here instead of Honed Power Chops...but I'm actually more worried about him having magic to cancel attacks than a bunch of health, and that makes the cheaper attacks better. Not using more Orthstirr on Reinforce Shield is a calculated gamble. I think the ordinary soldiers will be busy with our fellow raiders, and that there's too much risk of a priest having serious area-effect antimagic that will strip it all.

EDIT: Added one Firebomb Strike for the AoE and Contested Movement if it ever comes up, which seems possible but unlikely.

Scrapped Leaping Cleave and added Ember-Wing-Cloak instead to close with him after some discussion on how that would actually work.
 
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KreenWarrior said:
...we still haven't put anything in our Fylgja, huh? We really need to fix that at some point.
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We will have plenty of time to train our own once we get Abjorn his Fylgja, as group training it probably gives us bonus dice. To we have recently gained rune bombs, once we start making them I am sure our fylgja will be able to make sue of them somehow. Making the runes come after the metal work for stuff for tools at home.
 
KreenWarrior said:
Honestly my first instinct is to ignore the priest and use our mobility to murder-blend the archers. Those guys are likely going to be annoying. But Halla wants to duel the priest, so that's probably what we should do.
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Yeah, I think Halla is fighting the cultivator. The others can handle the rest, I suspect.

KreenWarrior said:
As far as we know, Christians are vulnerable to breaking their faith, and Knights have Focus that can be broken by a strong enough attack - unclear if a priest plays by the same rules. I wish we were better at the insult-poetry thing but I suspect this guy is out of our league as far as verbal sparring.

It's likely the Bible is an important Faith casting implement, as may be the staff. Destroying or defiling either would probably be good ideas.
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Oh, interesting idea. Hmmm. That's not a bad call (using Shatter-Wrist Trick), but I think redundant with the Knee-Groin-Trick in terms of use cases and the latter is more fun.

KreenWarrior said:
...we still haven't put anything in our Fylgja, huh? We really need to fix that at some point.
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We have, like, survival gear stashed in it but no tricks because we lack the defensive depth to split our defensive tricks and protect both us and it.

Constenanto said:
Damn, not even a single point of orthstirr from those chumps. Ah, it is what it is I suppose. We'll have to make do with this Christian Cultivator.
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We never get orthstirr mid-combat and this is still mid-combat. We might well get none from them, but it's a bit early to say.

Constenanto said:
If he's gonna sit at range use his Hugr-Equivalent to harass us, should we just close the distance with EWC? I considered KS, but even then, I doubt it'd kill him as he probably has an equivalent of Reinforce-Shield. Not to mention that he might dodge it, and even if it hit he'd still be able to stay back and snipe us.

Perhaps a LC? Although there's a good chance he'll dodge it, since LC is pretty easy to dodge if you're prepared.
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Even if he dodges the attack, it still lets us close with him. I think Leaping Cleave works here.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
So, I'm tempted to use Firebomb Strike here instead of Honed Power Chops...but I'm actually more worried about him having magic to cancel attacks than a bunch of health, and that makes the cheaper attacks better. Not using more Orthstirr on Reinforce Shield is a calculated gamble. I think the ordinary soldiers will be busy with our fellow raiders, and that there's too much risk of a priest having serious area-effect antimagic that will strip it all.
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Also fire in a probably very flammable village we are going to loot does not sit well with me. We can leave the fire tricks for stone monasteries and forts/castles
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
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I'm not so sure about the use of LC. It explicitly leaves us vulnerable in the air and gives the target opportunity to dodge. Given that this guy seems to be a ranged specialist, there's a high chance he'll just snipe us and then dodge the LC.

I'd suggest EWC but... well, EWC is quite orthstirr-intensive. I imagine it'd let us land right in front of him, since I got the impression it's way faster than LC - so that might let us get a few hits off? Although, honestly, it might be cheaper to use LC and block any attacks with HV. I don't see him being able to get off any more than two attacks while we're in the air, so thats only twelve orthstirr gone. Yeah, nevermind, LC is the better choice.

Are we sure we don't want to throw in a single FB Strike, though? It could hit the guys behind him, which would help the rest of our group.

Nevermind, I dont think we're actually anywhere near the Christian mooks.

Nope, turns out I am right. The reinforcements are behind him.
 
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Constenanto said:
Are we sure we don't want to throw in a single FB Strike, though? It could hit the guys behind him, which would help the rest of our group.
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If he has a serious defensive Trick ala Halting Vortex, which seems very possible (holding enemies at bay with the power of one's faith is a classic for a reason), then we may basically need to beat him in efficiency (ie: our offense needs to be cheaper than his defense), which makes the cheaper option better if true.

Additionally, Slickji makes a good point that we don't want to burn down the village before we get to loot it. Looting then burning is an important order of operations thing. Starting fires now would be unfortunate, and medieval villages tended to be quite flammable.

Honestly, I'd rather not burn it down at all since we don't actively want these people to die or anything, we just want their stuff, but that may be a bit too bleeding heart for Halla to care about.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
If he has a serious defensive Trick ala Halting Vortex, which seems very possible (holding enemies at bay with the power of one's faith is a classic for a reason), then we may basically need to beat him in efficiency (ie: our offense needs to be cheaper than his defense), which makes the cheaper option better if true.

Additionally, Slickji makes a good point that we don't want to burn down the village before we get to loot it. Looting then burning is an important order of operations thing. Starting fires now would be unfortunate, and medieval villages tended to be quite flammable.
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Are there actually any buildings near us? Kind of a bruh moment that a whole portion of our repertoire becomes unusable during a raid.

Also, I'd argue that a single FB-Strike isn't so inefficient, as we've got the reserves to back it up, and should it actually work we'd not only be hitting the monk/priest/whatever he is but also the soldiers behind him, which would definitely make it worth it.
 
Slickji said:
Just realized there have been hidden dice rolls this whole time,
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I've found the best way to deal with those is to use the "Stylus" extension (which, notably, is just one simple extension, rather than trying to hunt down site-specific extensions/scripts), with the following style:

CSS: 
.fixed-color[style="color:transparent"] {
    color: inherit !important;
    background-color: black;
}

If you use the + button in the bottom right you can add it for SB as well as SV as part of the same rule.
 
o11c said:
I've found the best way to deal with those is to use the "Stylus" extension (which, notably, is just one simple extension, rather than trying to hunt down site-specific extensions/scripts), with the following style:

CSS: 
.fixed-color[style="color:transparent"] {
    color: inherit !important;
    background-color: black;
}

If you use the + button in the bottom right you can add it for SB as well as SV as part of the same rule.
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Ah hell naw! I go here to escape coding. Ill live in blissful ignorance.
 
Constenanto said:
Are there actually any buildings near us? Kind of a bruh moment that a whole portion of our repertoire becomes unusable during a raid.

Also, I'd argue that a single FB-Strike isn't so inefficient, as we've got the reserves to back it up, and should it actually work we'd not only be hitting the monk/priest/whatever he is but also the soldiers behind him, which would definitely make it worth it.
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That's probably fair. If setting the village on fire isn't an issue I'll add one in.

Imperial Fister said:
If you were using Wildfire or anything other than Ignition, then the town catching fire would be a possibility.
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So Ignition wouldn't risk lighting the village then? If it doesn't, I'll replace one of the Honed Power Chops with a Firebomb Strike.
 
[X] Plan Knee A Priest In The Groin

I honestly expected more from the Sargent. I guess the sheer quality and power of the average person we have encountered thus far is higher than avg.

Does their cultivation require more in the way of resources than ours?
Also is there a post for all the various theories on the cultivation systems of the world?
 
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weeblypanda said:
[X] Plan Knee A Priest In The Groin

I honestly expected more from the Sargent. Does their cultivation require more in the way of resources than ours?
Also is there a post for all the various theories on the cultivation systems of the world?
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I suspect the cultivation system is a literalized metaphor for the feudal system. The prayers and faith of the peasants is channeled into Knights, which is why they're potentially so scary, but the average Christian isn't. Hints of this are the prayer that escaped the one mortal soldier's lips to no apparent effect, and that it was possible to break a defensive enchantment on a monastery by breaking the commoner's faith.
 
weeblypanda said:
I honestly expected more from the Sargent. Does their cultivation require more in the way of resources than ours?
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Most of them aren't cultivators so...in a sense? More time and effort anyway, since they don't all become cultivators just for existing. Priests and knights are cultivators, but most people are not.

weeblypanda said:
Also is there a post for all the various theories on the cultivation systems of the world?
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Not really, because we don't know how they work so it's all pure speculation for the most part...there have been a couple of posts listing what different systems exist, and several people have speculated on how some of them work, but it is just pure speculation. I can retrieve one or two of my own posts on the subject if you like?

Imperial Fister said:
You cannot. You can't use active-use defensive tricks while doing LC, which is the same weakness that Folds have
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Still worth it IMO. The worst thing that happens if we get hit once is likely losing our Reinforce Shield...which cost almost the same as a Halting Vortex. And if he chooses that option, I think he misses out on having the time to dodge, so we hit him hard thereafter. It means we definitely shouldn't make any Leaping Cleave attacks at dangerous targets when not defended by Reinforce Shield, though, so very good info to have.
 
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Imperial Fister said:
You cannot. You can't use active-use defensive tricks while doing LC, which is the same weakness that Folds have
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Ah. Hm. That makes the plan much less enticing. He'll definitely manage to get a free hit with whatever ranged Trick equivalent he has, and that would presumably strip all of our RS layers, too. I think EWC might be the way to go if we really want to get close to him without incurring injuries, @DeadmanwalkingXI.
 
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