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If a heavy enough attack hits you, then you're knocked out of it.

Hmmm. That is more concerning.

Ah. Hm. That makes the plan much less enticing. He'll definitely manage to get a free hit with whatever ranged Trick equivalent he has, and that would presumably strip all of our RS layers, too. I think EWC might be the way to go if we really want to get close to him without incurring injuries, @DeadmanwalkingXI.

I think losing RS is worth it to hit him with a 6 damage attack that also strips most defenses. Getting knocked out of the attack, however, is more of a concern. EWC is wildly expensive at the moment making me leery, though.

@Imperial Fister how difficult is it to just move and engage with this guy without a Trick? Like, would we need to roll for that, or just absorb an attack or two on the way?

D4?

So they can only roll a 1-2, or a 3-4???

…that's obscene. How do these poor souls get anything done?

I assume that's in combat, not for non-combat stuff...which works really differently anyway.
 
For the record, if this works the current plan should already be doing it since it responds to any trick attack (which this would be) with Contested Strike.
my plan was to use CM during power leap as we are vunerable during it, which might provoke him into using a ranged attack we could CM away and punish him with OR if cannot use them at the same time jsut rush him down no trick and hopefully he will retaliate with ranged trick we can CM away and finish rushing him down afterwards and if he doesnt? well he isn't doing anything to stop us from rushing him down so we rush him down.
 
I think losing RS is worth it to hit him with a 6 damage attack that also strips most defenses. Getting knocked out of the attack, however, is more of a concern. EWC is wildly expensive at the moment making me leery, though.

@Imperial Fister how difficult is it to just move and engage with this guy without a Trick? Like, would we need to roll for that, or just absorb an attack or two?

Eh, I can see where you're coming from. But I'd rather spend the orthstirr and close the gap between him and us than let him knock us out of LC, which would presumably leave us open to more attacks from him. Especially since I'm assuming that LC gives him a free auto-hit.

Or we could just rush the guy with HV, yeah, that works too lmao. We are Halla Longstride after all, I imagine we're pretty fast. Imperial said that we'd need to take an attack or two, but it'd be cheaper to absorb two attacks with HV than to engage with EWC.
 
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D4?

So they can only roll a 1-2, or a 3-4???

…that's obscene. How do these poor souls get anything done?
maybe 1 is failure
2-3 is success
4 is double success

they trade some double success chance for lower failure chance and more normal success chance. Probably why the Christian system would conquer the Norse system eventually, they just are more consistently rolling successes!
 
they trade some double success chance for lower failure chance and more normal success chance. Probably why the Christian system would conquer the Norse system eventually, they just are more consistently rolling successes!
probably, and honestly we haven't seen enough of the system to dictate tbqh, nor have we seen what a powerful member would be like.

Every norse might be a cultivator, but that has to have it's own draw backs.
 
@DeadmanwalkingXI, would it be possible to replace the LC with an FBS on the condition that the first FBS connects? As in, if we can land the first FBS and he doesn't stop it via Trick usage or something else, we use another?

Note: he's not just going to stand still and let you hit him, for the record

Who's faster between us and him? Is that something we'd have to find out? I'd like to trust in Halla, who I assume has the higher Hamr and also has a kenning that increases her speed, but he might have some way to speed himself up - something like our EWC, or a hastening Trick.
 
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Please and thank you! :) I would really appreciate that I'm not usually involved in the chat part of quests but this one is pretty unique as far as quests I've read go.

Here's my most recent analysis of some of the possibilities of other cultivation systems. It is highly speculative:

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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia) Fantasy - Action

Yeah, I theorized that before in passing, but it's good to get something resembling confirmation. I think that, unlike Norse cultivation, more 'refined' schools probably have several important differences: 1. As they advance they 'invest' into stats permanently, rather than all such investment...
 
Note: he's not just going to stand still and let you hit him, for the record

Right...but we should be a lot faster than him, shouldn't we? Even not using tricks we have Hamr 5 and an Overland total of 14 dice which is, um, a lot. We should be startlingly fast on a charge even by cultivator standards, I'd think.

@DeadmanwalkingXI, would it be possible to replace the LC with an FBS on the condition that the first FBS connects? As in, if we can land the first FBS and he doesn't stop it via Trick usage or something else, we use another?

LC has already been replaced, though there's only one Firebomb Strike right now. We could potentially make it two, though I feel like our defenses are already so full of conditionals that adding too many on our offenses as well gets...awkward.
 
Who's faster between us and him? Is that something we'd have to find out?
Right...but we should be a lot faster than him, shouldn't we? Even not using tricks we have Hamr 5 and an Overland total of 14 dice which is, um, a lot. We should be startlingly fast even by cultivator standards, shouldn't we?
Raw speed? Halla takes it easily. Augmented speed? Probably also Halla. Mobility? Who knows.
 
LC has already been replaced, though there's only one Firebomb Strike right now. We could potentially make it two, though I feel like our defenses are already so full of conditionals that adding too many on our offenses as well gets...awkward.

I meant 'replace' as in replacing it with an FBS. I don't really see the problem with the conditionals - as you said, it's on offense, and we don't have any other conditionals there either. I don't really mind either way, one FBS is good enough for me. I just wanted to capitalise on the AoE if we had the chance to do so.

Fair enough. We're probably being too precious with the orthstirr. I'll add using Ember-Wing-Cloak to close with him. That ought to do it for sure.

Ignore what I said about FBS above - this is the better call. Trying to save orthstirr is nice and all, but being too stingy with it will just give him even more opportunities that he can capitalise on, which would most likely cost us more orthstirr in the long run. Or even worse.
 
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Ignore what I said about FBS above - this is the better call. Trying to save orthstirr is nice and all, but being too stingy with it will just give him even more opportunities that he can capitalise on, which would most likely cost us more orthstirr in the long run. Or even worse.

In the spirit of not being too penny-pinching I actually did add a second Firebomb-Strike as well. This is probably a reasonable balance of factors and it's only 2 extra orthstirr to do it once more.

EDIT: I've switched this up a few times, but I'm leading with the Knee-Groin-Trick at this point, largely because I think, if successful, it will keep him from running very effectively.
 
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I wonder what Catholic "magic" is like. Is it based on the Miracles of God and his angels and the deeds of the Saints? This seems to be quite appropriate for Christianity, even if not necessarily universal.
 
I wonder if we can get Jerasmus to teach us Frisian once we get back home. Or whatever language is the main language in Lotharingia.
 
I wonder what Catholic "magic" is like. Is it based on the Miracles of God and his angels and the deeds of the Saints? This seems to be quite appropriate for Christianity, even if not necessarily universal.

Honestly no idea. I think that Hugareida are basically universal, if under different names, since they're so similar to Dao Insights in most xianxia (though details might differ)...but the actual magic stat/fylgja equivalent? Could be anything.

I wonder if we can get Jerasmus to teach us Frisian once we get back home. Or whatever language is the main language in Lotharingia.

We could plausibly learn additional languages from Jerasmus, yes, but it'll likely be a while. We need to spend, like, a minimum of 4 actions on crafting over the Winter, definitely want to check in on Stigandr as soon as we're back, then probably at least two actions on getting custody of Gabriel and Jerasmus (we want to talk with them first, then talk with dad about buying them), then at least one on the Meteor, then one Visit (maybe scouting Horra's place)...and that's 9 actions already.
 
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Eh, I'm not sure if I want to free Gabriel and Jerasmus rn. I'd rather we get enough money for them to get a boat back home, as being left homeless and stranded in a foreign land sounds like a shitty situation. I'm not against freeing them in general, but do we actually have the option to do so? From what I understand, Halla doesn't really have a negative view of thralldom and whatnot. Although if it's from the perspective of freeing friends, then I could see her doing it.
 
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Eh, I'm not sure if I want to free Gabriel and Jerasmus rn. I'd rather we get enough money for them to get a boat back home, as being left homeless and stranded in a foreign land sounds like a shitty situation.

I mean, the plan is buy them, free them, then employ them. Which means they'd be doing roughly what they're doing already, but saving money to buy passage home...or waiting on us to go on a trading expedition there (which they could tag along in), though that might be a few years.

Assuming they even want to go back, of course...people have suggested that they might not, in which case freedom and a job are pretty much what they'd want.

I'm not against freeing them in general, but do we actually have the option to do so?

We should, there's no rule against it or anything as near as I can tell.

From what I understand, Halla doesn't really have a negative view of thralldom and whatnot. Although if it's from the perspective of freeing friends, then I could see her doing it.

Thralldom sucks and the Norse never tried to claim otherwise. Halla, as our bit of armed robbery here demonstrates, has no problem doing things that suck for them to people she doesn't care about and I don't see her going on an anti-slavery crusade, but helping a friend out of a bad situation seems like a thing she'd do. Is Gabriel a friend? He's definitely getting there.
 
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