NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
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I think we could play a skald. Either by doubling down and being mute most of the time, or having our dialogue described rather than written out.
I also miss Aki. Hopefully we'll see him soon. And it depends on whether his dad has gotten remarried...could go either way, really.
While Halla probably wouldn't, it's possible that the charred soul mechanic could allow for ancestor body jacking. Halla would be completely intact unlike Blackhand, so the range of her influence might increase as well.
That would be a way around the shapecrafter problem; just have Halla do all the living by possession, and the shaper free to create abominations at night. They might even like spending effectively 100 percent of their time shapecrafting. If they are too broken to live normally, letting them live vicariously through a relatively stable person would almost be a kindness.
Again, probably not. Neat idea though
That would be a way around the shapecrafter problem; just have Halla do all the living by possession, and the shaper free to create abominations at night. They might even like spending effectively 100 percent of their time shapecrafting. If they are too broken to live normally, letting them live vicariously through a relatively stable person would almost be a kindness.
Again, probably not. Neat idea though
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I'm pretty sure both Halla and Blackhand would be utterly horrified by this whole idea and deeply unhappy about it even being suggested let alone tried. I also highly doubt the shapecrafter would go along willingly. Which is all to say that I think you could technically do this but I don't think any of the people in question would do so.
Yeah, I figured.
Although that does raise a few interesting questions: what if the next character was already a shapecrafter, or indeed any undesirable mindset and profession? Would Halla intervene if the next character was an active danger to the family? What would she do if her grandchild was a dishonorable killer, or otherwise extremely different from Halla? Would she forcefully prevent a suicide?
There's a lot of things to consider about the charred soul mechanic. To what extent should previous characters step aside for the current one?
Although that does raise a few interesting questions: what if the next character was already a shapecrafter, or indeed any undesirable mindset and profession? Would Halla intervene if the next character was an active danger to the family? What would she do if her grandchild was a dishonorable killer, or otherwise extremely different from Halla? Would she forcefully prevent a suicide?
There's a lot of things to consider about the charred soul mechanic. To what extent should previous characters step aside for the current one?
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Actual answer: We probably don't pick that character and move on to another instead.
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Yeah, this. We have a bunch of kids to pick from...we'll pick one who is functional and not a horrible monster bringing shame on the family.
1) How does she know who to choose? Does she choose? How does the transfer even work? It's unsatisfying to handwave it like that.
2) What about the next character? Suppose they only had one kid before they die or get imprisoned for a long time? Suppose a tragedy nabs some kids? Might not always have that choice.
3) Even if we choose a solid character, that doesn't mean they'll stay that way. There's still that defining question of "what's the line before differences grow too great to bear?"
There's just a lot of uncertainty on how the charred soul mechanic will actually work
2) What about the next character? Suppose they only had one kid before they die or get imprisoned for a long time? Suppose a tragedy nabs some kids? Might not always have that choice.
3) Even if we choose a solid character, that doesn't mean they'll stay that way. There's still that defining question of "what's the line before differences grow too great to bear?"
There's just a lot of uncertainty on how the charred soul mechanic will actually work
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We don't know #1 yet in universe, but we the players get to choose in reality, so it's either decided by Halla or the Nornir. For #2, we're definitely gonna work to avoid that, so it's more a fail state than anything. And for #3, we're the ones playing them, so while they might be different, they'll only be so in debilitating or shameful ways if we play them like that...so we should try to avoid doing so.
Basically this whole conversation is about a really severe fail state that we can probably avoid. Let's focus on the 'avoiding it' part.
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I'm still pretty against this...having a crazy person in your head does not sound good. I'm less against it than some alternatives proposed, but I still basically think we should investigate if there's a way around the down side before anything else, and would argue against learning shapecrafting at all if there isn't one.
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An important thing to note is that if sane shapecrafters were something easy they would have been developed centuries ago by generations of cultivators who also wanted the power without going mad.
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Yeah. It at least requires Odr and methods we have no idea about. It might require a lot more than that, or be entirely impossible.
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It's also possible that if we started making them the down side would kick in. We just don't know.
And I'd be happy to explore making Twists if we had an idea where to start.
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I mean, the "Don't kill someone unless you mean it" one is almost universal, that seems like one of the easiest Twists to develop from whole cloth as a result.
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That seems fine but I more meant in terms of methodology. Like...what actual process are we going to attempt?
Don't most Norsemen have Bloodlust preventing them from earning said twist?
Alectai
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Bloodlust isn't actually that common, among the actual badasses, yes, even other elites sometimes don't have it--case in point, Steinarr.
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Nah, as Alectai says, most Norsemen do not have Bloodlust. A disproportionate number of serious badasses, however, do.
We actually don't know if Steinarr had Bloodlust, though I admit it's unlikely.
Then from who Halla inherited Bloodlust? Her mother?
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Hallr Blackhand definitely had it, so we could have inherited it from Steinarr as a recessive even if he lacked it personally. But inheriting it from her mom is also possible.
Twists seem related to great tales and moments, ie Muna. Maybe mix Muna with Odr and something else?
Might also require captured experiences, or creation of a poem or a story. This makes sense in a certain way with what happened with the poem in our soul. While it did nothing it was described as something rather major achieved. As if we were on the right track but missing something.
Alloying Muna to something else might also be related. Also do we plan on doing anything with the secret we got from Corpsemaker?
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I think creating a Twist is a process of:
1) Get a basis for the Twist (Whatever the Twist does must be congruent with the basis)
2) Create a structure for that Twist via Poetry. Skaldic Rules must be followed (IC at least). You will need to express the story in a true way but in a different way (the different way is how the Twist works).
3) Color the Twist with Odr. Fascinatingly, one of the things we got with our Stage 2 Breakthrough was the ability to change the flavor and color or our Odr..
1) Get a basis for the Twist (Whatever the Twist does must be congruent with the basis)
2) Create a structure for that Twist via Poetry. Skaldic Rules must be followed (IC at least). You will need to express the story in a true way but in a different way (the different way is how the Twist works).
3) Color the Twist with Odr. Fascinatingly, one of the things we got with our Stage 2 Breakthrough was the ability to change the flavor and color or our Odr..
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Hmmm. Maybe. Just shoving Odr into Muna seems dangerous...we should probably talk with Alvis, who is an aspiring skald after all, before trying that.
We do if we run into anything with appropriately powerful blood.
That's possible, yeah. Again, I'd like to talk with a skald and see how they do it and we do have one right on hand.