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Fervor regenerates in a combat relevant time span seemingly no praying required
although I admit we don't know enough about the feudal system
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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- norse mythology (mythology) original xianxia cultivation western cultivation ask sirihand did your mother tell you anything? discussion pleases yggdrasil farming gloating gets people killed granary management hubris is a coward's word you will die norsemen do not die when they are killed the qm has a bad memory the qm is bad at math viking courtroom drama (legal drama) vikings open voting
Fervor regenerates in a combat relevant time span seemingly no praying required
although I admit we don't know enough about the feudal system
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I'll need to reread the fights, but I'm pretty sure the way they regenerate said combat is via praying - at the very least, I recall Father Gerrit putting his hands together when doing so.
Yeah, this.
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1:If you look through the comments IF clearly states later that the praying was a trick to make him regenerate power faster separate from his normal regeneration
2: Gabriel regains fervor every round he's certainly never done anything similar
I meant more as looking for it if we end up killing some bandits or something assuming that there isn't anything clearly better
Last time for example I think getting the idea of books was much better than an extra power pool
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Fair enough, I suppose I missed that.
Summer 9/Voyage 1.7
I.F. Ister
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[X] Plan: Lay the Cards Out
-[X] Well, I've got a fairly decent supply right about now, we recently had a pretty large pack of wolves that ran out and ate all the game and whatnot--and I mean an awful lot of them. We managed to sort them out, but we've got well over a hundred pelts right now after everyone who had use for them took their share. Goodly sized, fairly potent, and waterproof due to them _being_ water wolves of all bloody things. On our way down, we took a side trip and managed to sort out a modest problem with one of our neighbors, and picked up a hold full of quality whetstones as well, which are always in demand from my experience. The biggest thing on the table of course comes back to the aforementioned wolf pack--it was led by a monster of particular potency but not very much experience, and I had the good fortune of being among the group that laid it low, gaining access to its pelt. While the monster _itself_ was young and stupid, it _was_ Fenriskin with a hide impervious to ordinary attacks, a skilled artisan could turn it into something _really_ special. I myself, would be an Artisan on that level--though if you wanted Plate, I'd need to cooperate with someone who knows how to work with Fervor rather than Orthstirr, and you'd have to wait for me to get started until at _least_ Summer of next year, it'd be a hefty project and I've only got about another moon to spend here at the most if we want to be off the seas by winter.
-[X] As for what we need... Well, the aforementioned giant pack of wolves sort of wreaked havoc on the game, and while nature's healing, I figured it would be the neighborly thing to do to see about locking in a supply of extra food to give us that extra cushion to make sure nobody goes hungry this year. I'll admit a _personal_ interest in acquiring any interesting metals you might have access to here that I might not be able to acquire at home, as well as any interesting herbs, trees, or other bits of vegetation that I might be able to find a use for.
-[X] (Optional) The King looks like he's considering something as he looks at you, perhaps asking after it will bolster your trade stance?
--[X] I _do_ also have a ship-full of Norsemen, and while trading was the goal, nobody's going to say no to a chance at getting some action, if you've got any local pests that need to get a good thrashing.
-[X] Well, I've got a fairly decent supply right about now, we recently had a pretty large pack of wolves that ran out and ate all the game and whatnot--and I mean an awful lot of them. We managed to sort them out, but we've got well over a hundred pelts right now after everyone who had use for them took their share. Goodly sized, fairly potent, and waterproof due to them _being_ water wolves of all bloody things. On our way down, we took a side trip and managed to sort out a modest problem with one of our neighbors, and picked up a hold full of quality whetstones as well, which are always in demand from my experience. The biggest thing on the table of course comes back to the aforementioned wolf pack--it was led by a monster of particular potency but not very much experience, and I had the good fortune of being among the group that laid it low, gaining access to its pelt. While the monster _itself_ was young and stupid, it _was_ Fenriskin with a hide impervious to ordinary attacks, a skilled artisan could turn it into something _really_ special. I myself, would be an Artisan on that level--though if you wanted Plate, I'd need to cooperate with someone who knows how to work with Fervor rather than Orthstirr, and you'd have to wait for me to get started until at _least_ Summer of next year, it'd be a hefty project and I've only got about another moon to spend here at the most if we want to be off the seas by winter.
-[X] As for what we need... Well, the aforementioned giant pack of wolves sort of wreaked havoc on the game, and while nature's healing, I figured it would be the neighborly thing to do to see about locking in a supply of extra food to give us that extra cushion to make sure nobody goes hungry this year. I'll admit a _personal_ interest in acquiring any interesting metals you might have access to here that I might not be able to acquire at home, as well as any interesting herbs, trees, or other bits of vegetation that I might be able to find a use for.
-[X] (Optional) The King looks like he's considering something as he looks at you, perhaps asking after it will bolster your trade stance?
--[X] I _do_ also have a ship-full of Norsemen, and while trading was the goal, nobody's going to say no to a chance at getting some action, if you've got any local pests that need to get a good thrashing.
"So, Alfred-"
"You will address the King as 'Your Highness'," the graybeard at King Alfred's side growls out as his iron-encased arms fall to the weapons on his belt—which is a rather interesting idea, to armor ones' arms in iron, "Or, alternatively, King Alfred. He is your better and you will show him the respect he deserves."
'That graybeard is a Saxon, I'd know their obsession with class anywhere. Not even Charlemagne at the height of his power was able to rid them of that.'
Something inside you rankles at that, the idea that one is owed respect simply by virtue of their birth stings the independent streak that resides in the heart of all true Norsemen. A Jarl deserves respect, yes, but that respect is only granted once they've proven their worth. Once they bring respect to their people, their people give respect to them.
Still, from the stories you've heard and just by looking at him, King Alfred has brought respect to his people, so respect he has earned from them and from you.
In that case, "I'm sorry about that, King Alfred."
"You are forgiven," Alfred doesn't really seem to care, but politeness has no price. In this case, impoliteness may very well have cost you your head—if the way some of those Thanes were eyeing it has any weight.
Something draws Alfred's attention to the side, towards a simply-dressed man sitting cross-legged on the stone floor. He hunches over a book sitting open in his lap as he makes marks with the feather in hand. A jar of some sort of coloring liquid sits on the floor at his side, which he dips the feather inside of every once in a while.
As if listening to something you can't hear, Alfred nods and returns his attention to you. "I'm told you've brought a ship's load of high-quality whetstones and, furthermore, have a number of water-aspected furs in your hold." He leans in, his fingers folding together as his eyes sparkle, "Is this true?"
"Yeah, it is," you blink before adding a belated, "your Highness." Obviously, the cross-legged man has some sort of information gathering ability. The only question is 'how does it work?' "My people fought a large horde of monsters, water-wolves, and I ended up with the pelts."
You were about to launch into how you came into possession of the pelts when Alfred cuts you off.
"A fine story I'm sure, but perhaps not one we have time for today," King Alfred nods towards a large candle cut with a series of evenly-spaced notches—the flickering wick slowly nearing the next in line. "I have an interest in obtaining the whetstones and, to a lesser extent, the pelts. In accordance, I offer you two-hundred and sixty pounds for the whetstones and eight pounds for the pelts."
Do you accept that price as is, do you wish to haggle, or would you prefer it in some other way?
[ ] Accept the deal as is
-[ ] (Optional) Haggle on the Whetstones (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
-[ ] (Optional) Haggle on the Whetstones (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
-[ ] (Optional) Offer your services as a craftswoman to perhaps sweeten the deal
[ ] You'd prefer the deal in some other product or service (Write in)
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As you exit the court, you find your path blocked by the graybeard—who you eventually learn is named Iohannes.
"King Alfred has an offer for you—two offers—but one is personal and the other... can't be spoken of in court," Iohannes jerks his head to the side and you follow him into a secluded side-room. In the privacy of the room, Iohannes lays out the offers "King Alfred is willing to add an extra pound to the deal in exchange for allowing him to tour your ship. But, more importantly, he knows you Norsemen are always in search of ways to earn orthstirr."
You narrow your eyes, "I'm listening."
"Some unruly Thanes have balked at paying the Danegeld and have turned to the Nobiliary in hopes of them doing something about it. The King hasn't the forces to spare in this matter and is willing to add an extra twenty pounds to the deal—as well as extending an invitation of mercenary work to your people—if you repossess their lands. If you accept, you'll be given a list of names and locations, as well as the relevant details."
"And if I decline?" Something about this seems... fishy. Alfred doesn't have a lack of men, his throne room is evidence enough of that, so what's the angle here?
"Then nothing," Iohannes doesn't look overly happy about that fact. "The deal continues and you go back to Agder with heavy pockets."
What is your decision?
[ ] Accept both offers
[ ] Accept only the mercenary offer
[ ] Accept only the ship-touring offer
[ ] Decline both
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AN: Fucking hell, why must schools be so ungodly screwed up in terms of telling you how to do the most basic of tasks: registering for classes?
Anyways, fucking school devoured most of my day and energy and, as a result, this update's kinda garbage. I'm very sorry about that.
No moratorium.
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Uh... @Imperial Fister how much is a pound? In currency we're familiar with, that is.
I.F. Ister
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The English Pound of the Viking Age was the Troy Pound. So about 11 modern day ounces, which are pretty damn close to Norse ounces
However, I could be also super fucking wrong. He's supposed to be offering you about 3,000 ounces for the whetstones, or something.
I'm sorry for any rudeness that slips through my pre-posting read-overs, I'm grappling with my temper right now
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Ah! Okay. That makes sense. Hmmm. Lemme do math.
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[X] Accept the deal as is
-[X] (Optional) Haggle on the Whetstones (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
[X] Accept both offers
-[X] (Optional) Haggle on the Whetstones (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
[X] Accept both offers
I.F. Ister
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here's an article on anglo-saxon pricing during the early medieval period. it includes modern day prices, prices during the time, as well as weight in grams
Well, we don't want currency, we want food, so there's that. Yeah, we could turn around and buy the food, but we might not get the best exchange rates as Norsemen, and you always lose something on a transaction, so I'm tempted to ask for the food directly, plus some money for the men.
[x] You'd prefer the deal in some other product or service
-[x] You came here for food, and the King can probably get a better deal from his subjects than you can. Ask for 1/4 the value of the trade in coin, and the rest in food.
Not sure what's up with the mercenary work, but fine with taking it.
[X] Accept both offers
[x] You'd prefer the deal in some other product or service
-[x] You came here for food, and the King can probably get a better deal from his subjects than you can. Ask for 1/4 the value of the trade in coin, and the rest in food.
Not sure what's up with the mercenary work, but fine with taking it.
[X] Accept both offers
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Okay, that should probably be 270, then. 270 is almost exactly 3000 oz. (2970), 260 would be less. Either is a good price, though.
And that means he's offering only 88 oz of silver for the pelts. That's like, only a bit over half what we bought them for when the market was glutted and we'd be taking a serious loss. No way.
Food is not expensive enough that we need anywhere close to this much of it.
[X] You'd prefer the deal in some other product or service (Write in)
-[X] You came here for food, and the King can probably get a better deal from his subjects than you can. Ask for 3/4 the value of the whetstone trade in coin, and the rest in food.
-[X] (Optional) Haggle on the Wolf Pelts (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
--[X] We will flatly not accept anything less than 20 pounds no matter what. We'd rather just not make the deal on them.
EDIT: With looting allowed the mercenary offer is better. I've been convinced giving the tour is fine.
[X] Accept both offers
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question is, pounds of what? silver? food? iron?
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I asked this, it's silver. So 11 times that in silver oz.
I.F. Ister
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He's basing this off of the value of an English wolf pelt, which was only, like, 8 pence. He's upscaling (or should be, depending on my bad math) because these are 'magical water-wolf pelts' but he's not aware of the intricates of it
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Sure. I'm not saying he's trying to screw us, I'm saying we'd rather keep the pelts and sell them elsewhere than take a loss. We can sell them for quite a bit more than that somewhere else...like Vestfold for example, where we're headed in the next few years.
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Eh. Fair enough. Maybe it's fine...I'd like that to be explicit, though. That seems like something they could bring up in negotiations.
Hating the concept of Nobility makes sense since it's anathema to Norse Cultivation. Alfred is badass enough to earn respect though so it's easier for Halla to deal with.
Alfred is a navy nerd so it makes sense he'd want to look at a foreign ship. Maybe we can tell him about our brother who is a shipwright.
They where just talking about lacking manpower to deal with their issues and then Halla and co show up. This whole thing was a great opportunity, Grandpa Odin was right to get us to come here.
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He won't let you massacre his people nor will he allow you to make off with them as thralls, but he's fine with you looting the rebellious thanes for all they're worth as long as you leave the land itself intact.
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[X] You'd prefer the deal in some other product or service (Write in)
-[X] You came here for food, and the King can probably get a better deal from his subjects than you can. Ask for 3/4 the value of the whetstone trade in coin, and the rest in food.
-[X] (Optional) Haggle on the Wolf Pelts (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
--[X] We will flatly not accept anything less than 20 pounds no matter what. We'd rather just not make the deal on them.
[X] Accept both offers
-[X] You came here for food, and the King can probably get a better deal from his subjects than you can. Ask for 3/4 the value of the whetstone trade in coin, and the rest in food.
-[X] (Optional) Haggle on the Wolf Pelts (Opposed Silver-Tongue Check)
--[X] We will flatly not accept anything less than 20 pounds no matter what. We'd rather just not make the deal on them.
[X] Accept both offers
So if I'm understanding correctly, the Danegeld is the money Wessex is paying in war reparations/bribes to neighboring kingdoms in the Danelaw, in order to not be at war with them. And some of his Thanes said they would rather fight Vikings than pay. And us showing up presents an opportunity for Alfred to make them prove that.
My main concern is we don't need to win, or even come close to winning, for Alfred to accomplish that goal. If we all get killed, as long as we do some damage on the way out, that still serves as a reminder that Vikings are serious business
Alectai
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So basically, loot the thanes and give them a good thumping, leave the smallfolk alone and don't burn anything, that about right?
Threnodist
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Guys, touring our ship is definitely worth more than a pound of silver. Norse naval superiority is a major asset against the English and letting SuperSmart!KingAlfred onto our ship is probably gonna leak a lot of Norse shipbuilding techniques. I'm not against the idea of English-Norse parity, but the information is worth more than 1 pound of silver.
[X] Accept only the mercenary offer
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Well. It also provides us with more opportunity to interact with Alfred, which is potentially valuable...but yeah, I'm a tad ambivalent on that one myself.