Probably not good to try and slap a Darkness affinity on top of our existing Fire (and thus light) affinity.
I think its the opposite:
Night and fire can work well together, making Hallas fire a light in the dark, like the moon.
(Though for pure darkness I'd agree that it would probably give a non-synerhizing mess)
Also, it would work synergize well with Abjorn, there are lots of shadows in a moonlit night.
Very good question! The ground is dirt and grass, not very solid
But he should also be glued to himself/risk getting stuck to himself if he moves wrong (glued part rubbing against himself, breaking off the weak earth), right?
It feels like this might have been winnable as a solo boss fight after all? Which makes sense to me, because it felt really odd that @Imperial Fister would have put in an insta-death option without telegraphing it at all.
Agreed on the "changes the situation and feasibility of soloing", disagree on the untelegraphed part.
If he's a Young Master, then the convention would be he'll.cry out for help after the face slapping and then a dharma protector or his dad shows up.

Maybe that's what the older fighters are wary about.

Still, the current situation is pretty amusing.

And I wonder if no one else cares for the bone throne we can just take it home ourselves for the bone ash lol.
The mtg Card packsong pup has fitting art+flavor text for him getting help.

But: Use the throne for boneash? Use it as Hallas chair!
could it be possible that synty knots are the finnish version of twists. they are named similarly and it could be that we dont see him having any synty knots since they would all become twists for him.
Maybe they are like shapeshift slots.
Maybe maybe filled with rituals before the battle.
Then it could have been just not worth it for the Spar.
 
I bet the 24 other wolves are not going to just sit around now that the fight is turning. It might not matter much if they can't Puncture, but I wouldn't bet on them not either interfering or running away.
 
I think its the opposite:
Night and fire can work well together, making Hallas fire a light in the dark, like the moon.
(Though for pure darkness I'd agree that it would probably give a non-synerhizing mess)
Also, it would work synergize well with Abjorn, there are lots of shadows in a moonlit night.

But he should also be glued to himself/risk getting stuck to himself if he moves wrong (glued part rubbing against himself, breaking off the weak earth), right?

Agreed on the "changes the situation and feasibility of soloing", disagree on the untelegraphed part.

The mtg Card packsong pup has fitting art+flavor text for him getting help.

But: Use the throne for boneash? Use it as Hallas chair!

Maybe they are like shapeshift slots.
Maybe maybe filled with rituals before the battle.
Then it could have been just not worth it for the Spar.
The other thing is his balance will be off due to dirt glued to his paws. He will be blind because gunk gets glued over his eyes.

And worst comes to worse, even if he eats us all he's been effectively tarred and feathered and that gives us the moral victory, and that's the one that matters.
 
If he swallows us whole we can just rip him apart from the inside.

Remember, eating people just means that they get to make free hitsies on you from your digestive organs.
 
'For you? It would not be possible. Finnish magic requires the partitioning of your fylgja — if you aren't already Finnish, that is. That cannot be done if you have unveiled your fylgja. It's too real now.

Also you can only have one internal power. Odr for us, Zeal for the Christians, Henki for the Finns.'

What I was referring to when I mentioned the Finns splitting their Fylgja. Partitioning is a lot more ambiguous though than splitting.
 
Man, we're seeing a lot of Hugareida that it would definitely be nid to get hit by. Imagine being the guy who loses to someone holding an oar for example.

I suspect that Hugareida always count as real weapons for these purposes as they are in fact magical and powerful and obviously so. Now, on the other hand, I suspect the inciting incidents to gain the Hugareida may well have involved some shaming strikes. But, like, 'he hit me with an oar' and 'he conjured magic in the shape of an oar and hit me' are very different things.

Don't forget the wagon wheels as well.

Dedicated debuffers like these guys and Torsten are pretty cool.

Huh? Torsten uses shields. Shields are weapons...someone using two is odd, but certainly not shaming.

What I was referring to when I mentioned the Finns splitting their Fylgja. Partitioning is a lot more ambiguous though than splitting.

Yeah, my impression was that it was partitioned away from other stuff, not split per se.
 
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not relevant now, but important to note for general debate on power ranking. Sten is noted as upper top in the post.
in our spar with him though, while he was considerably stronger than us, he didn't feel like he outclassed us completely. as it seems to me, at least, we had a real, if small, chance of actual victory there. if he's average for upper top(and he might be more) the distance is not so huge in there.
our stats are also not that far away from him. his are higher, but not massively so, aside from Hugareida ranks
 
Sten was also holding back dramatically against Halla. He didn't whip out any of his most vicious bullshit, like his apparent Steel Hugareida that can just fucking one-shot Ironbrother level opponents if not suppressed.

(Actually, was his "Steel Take You" bit our first on-screen "Finale" technique?)
 
Admittedly Sten wouldn't whip out Steel in a spar even against someone he doesn't like - Steel is just not suitable for Spars.

From what I understand Sten doesn't have a Steel Hugareida, he used Ironbloom/Forgefire + Hammer & Anvil Twist + (Knowing how to actually make Steel) to drop steel weapons on people.
 
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Sten was also holding back dramatically against Halla. He didn't whip out any of his most vicious bullshit, like his apparent Steel Hugareida that can just fucking one-shot Ironbrother level opponents if not suppressed.

Yeah the fight with Sten was not remotely him going all out, though I don't think he has a Steel Hugareida. He has a few tricks for taking existing metal and, like, throwing it at people and has some steel to use that Trick with.

My personal bet is that the dice pool we saw there was a mediocre weapon and none of his Martial Styles.

(Actually, was his "Steel Take You" bit our first on-screen "Finale" technique?)

Probably, yes. Which means it wasn't Hugareida, since Finales are always Martial Style based. My bet would be that Sten has, on top of Stoker State, a smith-based Style taught by his blacksmithing teacher that can, like, throw metal around (plus Ironbloom attacks that do the same).
 
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it might be, but we saw his sheet after that spar. he was strong- but not that far from us. and surprisingly with less Hugareida then Halla(though thats because Halla just collects them all)

btw, have we tried infusing odr into martial styles?

what about trying to put odr into shapeshifts/shapeshifted body parts etc?

and have we tried experimenting with shapeshifting? like beyond using the presented options? maybe even looking for tricks based on it?
 
it might be, but we saw his sheet after that spar. he was strong- but not that far from us. and surprisingly with less Hugareida then Halla(though thats because Halla just collects them all)

His sheet was just missing things we're pretty much certain he has, though. Like, he definitely has Stoker State because of the heartbeat thing but it's not on his sheet. I think the sheet only showed stuff he demonstrated during the fight. Steinarr probably has some Glima as well, he just didn't use it so it's not on the sheet.

btw, have we tried infusing odr into martial styles?

what about trying to put odr into shapeshifts/shapeshifted body parts etc?

So far, we have only been able to put Odr into the same things we can put Orthstirr into. We've tried other stuff and it hasn't worked super well. We can try again, but it's not a priority.

and have we tried experimenting with shapeshifting? like beyond using the presented options? maybe even looking for tricks based on it?

We've fiddled around with minor shapeshifting, but Tricks in that vein seem to be Hamr Tricks (look at Magnify Sight)...do you have some specific one in mind?
 
btw, have we tried infusing odr into martial styles?

what about trying to put odr into shapeshifts/shapeshifted body parts etc?

and have we tried experimenting with shapeshifting? like beyond using the presented options? maybe even looking for tricks based on it?
Don't think we have tried any of those yet.

We should try infusion 1 Odr in a martial style (Hugr infusion precautions: have spare calm charges, no weapon and competent fighter friends to stop us if need be (Steinarr, Abjorn).

Odr into shapeshits... We could try, though by general vibes i think we should get a basic shapecrafting education, i bet we would get the beginnings on how to true cultivate shapeshifts.

Experimenting with Shapeshifting: Got good experiment ideas? Will probably involve some arguing to get the research dice, but sounds like an interesting area.
 
@Imperial Fister, could Halla tell if the Midwife had odr when she came over to deliver her children?

Experimenting with Shapeshifting: Got good experiment ideas? Will probably involve some arguing to get the research dice, but sounds like an interesting area.



Imperial said he's fine with adding new shqpeshift options, although I think we actually have to come upon it naturally or through research. I recall it being said that we could replicate the Threaded Man's extend-o-limbs if we wanted to.
 
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I kinda want to feed his heart to one of our puppers.
So we can raise our own Fenriskin.

Fenriskin apparently have a built in hatred of humans, which seems like an issue there.

Don't think we have tried any of those yet.

Checking back over things we haven't. I'm pretty sure they just won't work based on how Odr has worked previously (ie: you can only Infuse it into things you can put Orthstirr into), but we can try...I'm leery of investing Odr into shapeshifting while pregnant (in case it does work but there are side effects), but we can try Martial Styles.
 
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