So he was Chancellor for almost a thousand years?
Pretty sure you meant "oversight".
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The family was in power that long, yes.So he was Chancellor for almost a thousand years?
The Ruusan Reformation guy was Tarsus Valorum, his great-great-grand-???-descendant was Finis Valorum.
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Did, thanks. Summarizing Star Wars' best impression of WH40K (SWNegative2K?) was kinda exhausting. Autoconfound (because when autocorrect is not actually corrective what else should we call it, lol) didn't help either.So he was Chancellor for almost a thousand years?
Gave his first name in an edit and acknowledged he was the great great etc. grandfather
Pretty sure you meant "oversight".
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Hmph. Chancellor Binks will always be number One in my book.
And eventually he shall be emperor.
And eventually he shall be emperor.
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I mean, we laugh now, but if we could manoeuvre him into the Vice Chair/Deputy Chancellor position(s) post-Operation-Shiv this could be real.Hmph. Chancellor Binks will always be number One in my book.
MrRobot
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The embodiment of "It seemed like a good idea at the time"
I said it before is not an terrible idea, it's just that we do have better candidates like bail organa .Hmph. Chancellor Binks will always be number One in my book.
Barondoctor
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Bail Organa is a plausible threat to Palpatine's attempt to gain a stranglehold on the galaxy.
Binks, however, was Palpatine's useful idiot once and granted him Emergency Powers. Palpatine would have no plausible reason to oppose him. He'd trade Amedda to another spot he could be useful and think he'd acquired Binks as a pawn.
At worst, we'd be trading a smart opponent for a dumb one. At best, we'd be sneaking a skifter into the deck.
MrRobot
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That may be true but the way we are angling the "republic" as a political body may fall, trough the CNS just become the republic. Aka we have a major reform and reorganize at this point we might as well push for comptent replacements. Even with the critical success machine we may not be able to save the republic.
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Precisely.
If we win and the Republic can be saved, Binks is smart enough to know he needs help and borders on being Too Dumb To Fool while also being idealistic enough to be not immediately thrown out by the Senate.
If we win and the Republic cannot be saved, Binks is an attack ad writer's dream.
If we lose? Binks would at least try to curb the worst excesses of the Empire, likely before meeting a dagger in an alleyway.
It's a decent enough Xanatos Gambit. A cheeky little pawn play in the Xanatos Speed Chess we're playing against Palpatine.
If we win and the Republic can be saved, Binks is smart enough to know he needs help and borders on being Too Dumb To Fool while also being idealistic enough to be not immediately thrown out by the Senate.
If we win and the Republic cannot be saved, Binks is an attack ad writer's dream.
If we lose? Binks would at least try to curb the worst excesses of the Empire, likely before meeting a dagger in an alleyway.
It's a decent enough Xanatos Gambit. A cheeky little pawn play in the Xanatos Speed Chess we're playing against Palpatine.
I personally prefer the term "autocorrupt".
That aside, this talk of getting Jar Jar into the Deputy/Vice/Supreme Chancellor's seat has given me a question; What happens if the Vice Chancellor dies? Does the Deputy Chancellor become the new Vice Chancellor, or is there some other method of replacing them?
MrRobot
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Please elaborate on that, i don't get it and still think this is the more likely of the cases.
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Basically it's a somewhat polite way of saying that if the Republic dies with the Man who Would Be Emperor, we have a ready made target to hit with the propaganda stick.
It's definitely not nice, and will probably piss off all of Jar-Jar's friends, but they're saying that if all else fails, blame Jar-Jar.
MrRobot
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That's probably something we would not do, have some missiformation campaign and blame another scumbag that deserve at least part of it would something we would do even if its harder.
If you want an IC reason it would be because padme is one of jar jar friends.
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Canon doesn't supply an answer, though it appears that the Vice Chair is actually the real secondary power after the Supreme Chancellor, and the Deputy Chancellor is really just a position Palpatine crafted to stuff Saro Sanuo into as a combo "effectively neuter this inconvenient person"/"have a useful scapegoat at hand if something delicate is accidentally exposed" move. That said, Snark hasn't put Mas Amedda on the list of "kosher targets in the Chancellor's Office" and does have Sanuo (& Sate Pestage, for what he's worth) so I can't authoritatively say what the line of succession is for quest!canon.
Also, @Barondoctor is 100% correct about inserting Binks into the Chancellor's office, with my only addition being that he's also very easily influenced by the people he trusts, and hey, #1 on that list is none other than our
In terms of other 'contenders': Bail Organa, like Padme, has been too visibly an ally of ours and a public opponent to Palpatine's political machinations (plus, Alderaan and Naboo are both in the CNS. Palpatine's never going to give that de facto state an inch more of credibility/acknowledgment than he absolutely has to). Any other Senator who could be trusted by us would, naturally, never be invested with any power by Palpatine (Mon Mothma, Garm Bel Iblis, etc.) and any he would be inclined to install would be corrupt, or Sith adepts, or both.
Jar-Jar, loathe as I am to say it, is the perfect candidate.
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This. In the event the Republic dies with Sheev, Jar Jar is very very easy to make fun of and make look like a buffoon. He does such a good job of it himself, you scarcely need to try.
"Jar-Jar Binks was responsible for granting Palpatine Emergency Powers. Do you really want that bad of a judge of character in charge of the Republic? Join the CNS today!"
Absolutely it's a backstab move, but that's politics.
@Stardust&Scotch has the better play, having Padme ask Jar Jar nicely to do whatever we ask. With how trusting he shows himself to be, a word and a polite smile's all the move we'd need and we'd get to preserve our reputation and friendships. Enlightened Self Interest indeed.
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What is this? Anything I can find is about the gsme by Quantic Dream.
Red_Knight25
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Honestly if we really felt like beating our enemies with the propaganda stick, doing it toward Palpatine's actual supporters will take less actions overall, be more moral than scapegoating Jar-Jar, and be less likely to enrage our allies that consider Jar-Jar a friend.
The DC would probably be higher that way, though.
If we do go through with Chancellor Binks, we ask Padme to negotiate with him for a better future, like how others have said.
The DC would probably be higher that way, though.
If we do go through with Chancellor Binks, we ask Padme to negotiate with him for a better future, like how others have said.
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Not gonna lie, Rhen Var would be cool. It's too bad we didn't think of it before, to coincide with going after Exar Kun.
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oooh, i use automangle but the use of similarity in autoconfound is much better. Yoink! -g-
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I prefer autocorrupt myself.
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Was honestly thinking more on that "Wound of the Force" hiding within that Jedi Temple, being... Ripe, for a horrific Eclipse event from Berserk, more than some other game studio.
As in, "do you want a Planet Eating Palpatine" on the list of war crimes, if going "In Death, I become Eternal"? Tier of (Cosmic Horror) Bad End. At which point, calling/crying for your Mother, might be an 'at worst' acceptable Godzilla threshold, and that's well... Not a wise, table flipping idea, to be mindful on.
That aside;
Honestly, if we're being frank on loose comparisons to a certain infamous world war. No, just in canon would be a better apt comparison.
Don't, let Jar Jar Binks hand out "Emergency Powers" to Palpatine. Or if that malicious, turn him into the 'targeted' Fall Guy, if of course we're being spiteful. Or Watcher rigged spiteful.
That said, if the alternative is a case of; "What If, Palpatine turned Jar Jar Binks, into a Sith"? It'd no likely have resulted in Nega-verse tier paranoia, escalating over meme's. Or worse. "Did Sidious picked Mesa, in the hopes his bullshit clutz would cancel out Ciaran's bullshit luck?"
Anyone else get a chuckle at imagining the sheer confusion of various negaverse questers when they learn that the X-Wing is being developed so damn early.
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"Boy was that a great background nat 100 to generate a force sensitive crime lord."
MrRobot
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A chaotic good alingned force sensitive crime lord with seer like powers... And an obsession for bullying Obi-wan.
Meanwhile on palpatine's quest:
WHY EVERYTHING IS GOING WRONG?! THIS IS BULLSHIT! RAILROADING BULLSHIT! THOSE ARE FUCKING AUTO FAILS!
Meanwhile on palpatine's quest:
WHY EVERYTHING IS GOING WRONG?! THIS IS BULLSHIT! RAILROADING BULLSHIT! THOSE ARE FUCKING AUTO FAILS!
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