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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)

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Barondoctor said:
Ciaran / Padme / Anakin / Obi-Wan / The Most Agreeable Parts of Obi-Wan's Harem?
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...shit, that's better. mine was just the 'obi-wan has two hands' solution to the whole triangle business.
although, that roster's missing Asajj...
Dr. Snark said:
Dooku's status as an ex-Jedi is effectively public knowledge for anyone who wants to ask. And he's fighting against the Jedi Order. Not exactly a big leap of logic for pretty much anyone admittedly...
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Not a big leap of logic, no. Hardly even a tiny step. And yet...
[glances at snark]
[glances at council members straight-facing lines like "he's a political idealist, not a murderer" and "he couldn't assassinate anyone. it's not in his character."]
[glances back at snark]
Strong with the Denial Side of the Force, are they. Worth asking, it seemed.
 
Asajj / Ciaran / Padme / Anakin / Obi-Wan / The Most Agreeable Parts of Obi-Wan's Harem.

Which is, even discounting Ciaran's part in it, probably one of the more ambitious Star Wars polycules proposed. I don't hate it. You've got enough separation between the Asajj side and the Obi-Wan's Harem side, but it's definitely a polar polycule (is that a thing? I don't know enough about the idea to be able to say. I'm happily married and plan to stay that way a long time.)

Stardust&Scotch said:
Strong with the Denial Side of the Force, are they. Worth asking, it seemed.
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For years my brother and I joked that Ki-Adi-Mundi existed to showcase the height of Jedi exceptionalism, arrogance, and incorrectness.

"You can't have attachments, but I have multiple wives. You say you encountered the Sith when they wielded a red lightsaber with exceptional aplomb? I say they've been dead for a thousand years and they're not capable of being sneaky enough to hide in an entire galaxy. Count Dooku is not a murderer or a criminal, despite being neck-deep in the Separatist movement full of them. Ahsoka Tano who has been an exemplary Padawan to Anakin an exemplary Knight definitely doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt or further investigation. Ahsoka Tano who I not ten minutes ago threw out of the Jedi Order I now want to champion."
 
Dr. Snark said:
"You have not fully answered me. Why you, then?" Cerulian questioned.

"I trust him," Anakin responded as Obi-Wan looked at him, slightly surprised. "A lot of Jedi do, even now. It's not a matter of him being a Jedi Master or not. I have faith that he'll do the right thing..." Anakin looked at Obi-Wan and grinned slightly. "...but he might need some help on occasion."

"Much as I would like to disagree with him, he's right," Obi-Wan responded. "I am not going to lead the Army alone. I will freely admit that part of the reason I am here is to seek counsel and wisdom from the people closest to it, in the hope that I might better understand what needs to be done. Perhaps that makes me unworthy, but I would rather be 'unworthy' and wise than 'worthy' and a fool."
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Honestly, I was semi-hoping this would be the moment Anakin and Obi-Wan come out and say they both could never have been what the other needed. Anakin can't be the perfect Jedi exemplar, he always was just a human being with scars given the weight of the galaxy, and Obi-Wan could never have been the father-figure because he is in many ways still a young man himself.

But I think at this topic, in this unspoken moment, they both got the sentiment.
Barondoctor said:
Ciaran / Padme / Anakin / Obi-Wan / The Most Agreeable Parts of Obi-Wan's Harem?
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Barondoctor said:
Asajj / Ciaran / Padme / Anakin / Obi-Wan / The Most Agreeable Parts of Obi-Wan's Harem.
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Call me wierd, but the part of any relationship dynamics I've always found fascinating when it comes to involving Anakin is conflict. When things get bumpy and difficult. Like, all throughout Episode 2 Padme was increasingly scared of the angry, vengeful fascist she was seeing crawl to the surface. But she always papered over that with an excuse, found a semi-reasonable explanation, or just let the emotions of the moment take over. Now?

How long until Anakin and Padme's arguments bring up Ciaran's closeness? Is Asajj going to be comfortable around a guy that's just sitting with one foot in the mindset that nearly killed her? Is The Chosen One's next great conflict going to be between Anakin the Husband and General Skywalker the right hand of Lady Ciaran?
 
I've always got the feeling in this fic that Obi-Wan's off the table for Ciaran because Satine would never ever go for it. Even though she appreciates everything Ciaran's done for the CNS, Satine seems to genuinely dislike Ciaran as a person (unlike being fondly exasperated by her like most people).
 
SuspiciousBird said:
I've always got the feeling in this fic that Obi-Wan's off the table for Ciaran because Satine would never ever go for it. Even though she appreciates everything Ciaran's done for the CNS, Satine seems to genuinely dislike Ciaran as a person (unlike being fondly exasperated by her like most people).
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Honestly even before satine Ciaran and Obi romantic prospects had an major issue. Ciaran may be a daam heroic person now but before she was extremely self interested and had a bigger dislike for the Curouscant jedi. So while he is fun to tease revealing any secret to obi wan, really trusting him, was kinda out of question.
 
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A reminder that there is a force prophecy also involved with the Valley 'The Poem of the Ages'...so I'm going to invoke Jolee Bindo about the Force when capital D 'Destiny' is invoked and just say the Force works in mysterious ways and will find some poor schmuck (Anakin in this case, Kyle Katarn in OTL Legends) to jerk around to fulfill it.

The Valley could be lit up like Vegas and it still wouldn't be found until the Force feels like it.
 
Dr. Snark said:
Second, that detail about the Valley being Force-shielded isn't technically canon but would explain why no one was able to find the damn thing despite Ruusan being frequented by smugglers and the like before it was rediscovered. Apparently. Good old EU plotholes...*sigh*
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You actually missed the bit that the Sith might have worked to ensure that Ruusan and the exact locations of anything on it got lost and stayed lost. Because they'd probably preserved the location (though said records might have since got lost) and didn't want anyone else, especially Jedi, touching anything there. Just in case it causes a problem or say, means another Sith popped up somewhere in the galaxy making the Jedi poke around for others once they inevitably either found, or got attacked by, them.

Those work for 'scientific' reasons. There's also the fact that is actually is in fact a very Force-saturated region and thus might have... You know, got lost any time someone went looking for it. At least until the 'time was right'. Very convenient having something that might as well be 'Plot Mcguffin that generates Plot' as a universal (or at least intergalactic) Force like that...
 
"It was cleary due the abnormally high concentration of plotium pre crystals on the atmosphere and planet core"

Jokes asside this valley of jedi probably is something we would pout on the "to neutralize" category than the "get it for ourselves" category.
 
Slaggedfire said:
Woah woah. Those are jedi souls buddy. We can't neutralize em.
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MrRobot said:
We can, getting them to join the cosmic force like their religion believes they should and not being used for some sith bullshit.
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I'm pretty sure there are also Sith souls mixed somewhere in the mass of force energy… stuff. The utter torture of bitter enemies sharing a small cramped space for a thousand years without being able to fight each other. It's either a nightmare or the basis of a wacky sitcom.
 
JAGwin said:
@Dr. Snark, I was rereading the results for Turn 29, and I noticed something;

While I doubt it would've changed the result, this bonus was not applied to the Ossus roll.
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Noted and accounted for/edited in. Not surprised I missed that one given the hiatus.

Semi-Autogyro said:
A reminder that there is a force prophecy also involved with the Valley 'The Poem of the Ages'...so I'm going to invoke Jolee Bindo about the Force when capital D 'Destiny' is invoked and just say the Force works in mysterious ways and will find some poor schmuck (Anakin in this case, Kyle Katarn in OTL Legends) to jerk around to fulfill it.

The Valley could be lit up like Vegas and it still wouldn't be found until the Force feels like it.
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Pyro Hawk said:
You actually missed the bit that the Sith might have worked to ensure that Ruusan and the exact locations of anything on it got lost and stayed lost. Because they'd probably preserved the location (though said records might have since got lost) and didn't want anyone else, especially Jedi, touching anything there. Just in case it causes a problem or say, means another Sith popped up somewhere in the galaxy making the Jedi poke around for others once they inevitably either found, or got attacked by, them.

Those work for 'scientific' reasons. There's also the fact that is actually is in fact a very Force-saturated region and thus might have... You know, got lost any time someone went looking for it. At least until the 'time was right'. Very convenient having something that might as well be 'Plot Mcguffin that generates Plot' as a universal (or at least intergalactic) Force like that...
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Hey, there was a reason Cerulian was vague about the details. It's so that I can be vague about the details in case I need to walk them back later for whatever reason :V

Whumbly said:
I'm pretty sure there are also Sith souls mixed somewhere in the mass of force energy… stuff. The utter torture of bitter enemies sharing a small cramped space for a thousand years without being able to fight each other. It's either a nightmare or the basis of a wacky sitcom.
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Hoth: So. The thought bomb.
Kaan: Shut up.
Hoth: Did you actually read the fine print on that one?
Kaan: Shut. Up.
Hoth: Because, stop me if I'm wrong, this doesn't exactly seem like the endgame you'd planned.

-repeat ad nauseam for 1000 years-
 
Well the endpoint of the banite order is the darkside crackhead palps, not as planed can pretty much describe the rule of two really.
 
To be fair Ciara can come up as very intimidating if you look closer, the woman is dangerous if ultimely trustworthy.
Since she does not do backstabbing really.
 
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SuspiciousBird said:
I've always got the feeling in this fic that Obi-Wan's off the table for Ciaran because Satine would never ever go for it. Even though she appreciates everything Ciaran's done for the CNS, Satine seems to genuinely dislike Ciaran as a person (unlike being fondly exasperated by her like most people).
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I figure that sort of thing always depends on perspective. Like, sure, I could see the Duchess not wanting Ciaran to be even marginally, infinitesimally, more present in her life. I could also see her saying "huh. Obi-Wan spends one afternoon in her presence, after which he stays with me for weeks, trying to spend as much time as possible with me ... I can work with this."

Myself, I wonder more about how/if she and Siri would get along.
Barondoctor said:
Asajj / Ciaran / Padme / Anakin / Obi-Wan / The Most Agreeable Parts of Obi-Wan's Harem.
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I feel like I must be missing at least one person if not several (in order for there to be the aforementioned 'harem') as the only people I was aware of are Siri and Satine. Were/are there others who I've missed?

asking because of reasons.
Barondoctor said:
For years my brother and I joked that Ki-Adi-Mundi existed to showcase the height of Jedi exceptionalism, arrogance, and incorrectness.

"You can't have attachments, but I have multiple wives. You say you encountered the Sith when they wielded a red lightsaber with exceptional aplomb? I say they've been dead for a thousand years and they're not capable of being sneaky enough to hide in an entire galaxy. Count Dooku is not a murderer or a criminal, despite being neck-deep in the Separatist movement full of them. Ahsoka Tano who has been an exemplary Padawan to Anakin an exemplary Knight definitely doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt or further investigation. Ahsoka Tano who I not ten minutes ago threw out of the Jedi Order I now want to champion."
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Something that's really interesting to me is that, to the best of my recollection, apart from the OT characters Mace Windu and Mundi are the only Council members with lines in the prequel films ... and pretty much all of them are variations on the same theme as what the other one is saying. I wonder sometimes if it started out in the drafts as just Mace Windu, and then someone realised that Samuel L Jackson is far too cool and naturally charismatic to be the Professional Wrong Person, and Mundi was put in and given some of his lines to say/echo. Because boy, if anybody was the designated Professional Wrong Person in canon, Mundi was it.
 
Stardust&Scotch said:
Were/are there others who I've missed?
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Lena Cobral Lena Cobral, 3 years older and was willing to turn around and testify against the Cobral crime ring that was so big and so powerful they took over the entire planet of Frego (a Core world, no less) at the age of 20. (Also, in a change for Obi-Wan, she's written as having dark hair. Incidentally, the remnants of the organization re-formed on one of Naboo's moons and was still active circa 1 ABY. Written for one pre-Ep-I book and vowed to live somewhere else quiet, so if Obi-Wan has some 'quiet' time in his schedule...

Bant Eerin/Legends Bant Eerin, one of Obi-Wan's friends from his training clan. Jedi Knight and contemporary of Obi-Wan, who survived at least to Order 66 in OTL. Mon Calamari. Has traded saving each others' life with Obi-Wan at least once. Hard to argue against someone he knows who he cares about who's capable of almost as much as him.
 
Jack_Trade said:
Most probably would rage-quit but the remaining ones would be those diehard 'there was a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it but let's keep going and see what happens.' types.:p
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Honestly, before I even read the recent updat. My mind goes under "every time I hear a Nega-verse quest player suffer from the Sage Dice Lucky B######". My mind wander's to this game;


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZQPIxYH-oc

Or fueled by spite filled 'relief'.

Nega-Verse Players: "Oh fuck, it's another Doctor Lucky. We need to ensure that Luck Dice get's crippled, if not maimed outright!"

IE: If it were a Nega-verse quest, now realising just how bullshit Lucky Ciaren is, that it's a "certified force power". It'd be a no brainer if Palpy's doing his (belated) "Anti-Ciaren" reports now, in Seething scheming.
 
Palpatine nega quest... Also know as the great kingdom of salt. Honestly he was the worst character to actually have as a focus, an obi-wan quest in other hand would be "fun".
Like "shark what this invisible D100 mean?" "fun".
 
However, what is truly worth celebrating is the fact that this starfighter can act functionally independently from any carrier force due to its extremely comprehensive sensor suite and potential astromech mount, and with the ability to arm it with proton torpedoes a squadron of them can act as an independent strike force capable of handling strike missions that would normally be relegated to bomber units such as the Y-Wing.
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Reminds me of the X-Wing series where Wedge turned a squadron into a force to win wars with some very independent starfighters.
 
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