It's like Anime Inception:

Leo DiCaprio: Uhh guys I think we're deep enough..

Tom Hardy: What? There's 80 levels to this shit! We need to go deeper.

Samuel L. Jackson: He's right. Stomp on these clowns. Die motherkriffers die motherkriffers steel fools..

Leo DiCaprio: Who the hell are you?

Sam Jackson: Don't worry about me..
 
A Grievous Error excerpt / concept said:
Grievous: I have been watching you since you first joined my guard. I've seen you grow. I had been hoping advancing you would enable you to finally bloom. Your tactics were not bad, but your combat skill was embarrassing. I've arranged for you to train on Myrkr.
Riphath: What will I need?
Grievous: Take everything you'd want for a short walk.

--fade in: Myrkr landing--
Grievous: I know, it doesn't look like they're here, but they should be just up ahead. Go on, get out and join them. It's a short walk.
Riphath steps off the shuttle.
Grievous (over shuttle speaker): By 'short walk', they're on the other side of the continent. Do not fear, for I am always watching, and you will probably not die here.
Riphath: Probably?
Grievous: I do sleep, you know.
The shuttle flies off in the distance.
Riphath: Oh. Shit.

He arrives at the Myrkr facility after about six hours short of one month. Grievous is seen there, being handed a twenty credit chit by Masha.

Grievous: I told you he'd make it under a month.
Masha: Remind me never to bet against you.
Riphath: Thank you.
Masha: Not you, him. He's been telling me for the last week he wanted me to be here because he wanted to rub it in.
 
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*blinks confusedly*
*blinks confusedly even more*

Let me get this straight: you'd heard of Kara no Kyoukai, a light novel series that had a relatively obscure anime adaptation a few years ago that - while good - wasn't really that well-known barring fairly hardcore Nasuverse fans. But you hadn't heard of Tsukihime, which was a visual novel that had a manga adaptation, a fighting game spinoff/sequel with its own manga adaptations, and had top billing alongside F/SN in Carnival Phantasm.

Okay.

That makes sense. o_O
No I haven't heard of either. :)
I've heard of this: A Finely Honed Blade [Worm/Kara no Kyoukai | Garden of Sinners]
 

You aren't the only one... :p

I mean, the moment I read the 'Sees lines of death' I thought of that, and what it's crossed-over with. Of course, then Snark said it was obscure, so I thought that it couldn't possibly be that, because that seemed relatively big.

Little did I know that that was the obscure version and there was something much bigger that I hadn't even heard of... :p
 
Hey, to be fair, KnK was definitely obscure, and in many ways still is. Now that Ufotable is getting more popular, and all of the recent exposure due to F/GO's English release, there are more people running around that have seen some adaptations of Nasu's works, and want to see more. Hilariously, this means that Fate seems to be arguably better known now than Tsukihime despite the latter's insane amount of popularity for a Visual Novel back in the day. I feel old.

Still, the Eyes of Death Perception that Tohno uses are mechanically different than Ryougi's. For one, his seems to cut at sympathetic weaknesses in something's concept, and can strike in a single point that shatters the concept of that something's state of being "alive". Ryougi's seems to only have lines (someone correct me if I am wrong here) and seems to target something's lifespan if she considers it at that moment to be something like "alive", as long as that something has the concept of an ending within its origin. All she has to do is understand the concept of an ending, and how it applies to the "concept" that she is viewing, and "cut to the chase" of that concept. It's an incredibly insane power.

Still, that Cade Skywalker could see in such a way is fascinating to me. And, he apparently had a power that Anakin wanted... the ability to save lives through the Dark Side. The very idea of that power, when prompted by his visions of Padme's demise via childbirth, is what led to him falling in the first place... Is Cade's story worth finding a copy and reading?
 
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Hey, to be fair, KnK was definitely obscure, and in many ways still is. Now that Ufotable is getting more popular, and all of the recent exposure due to F/GO's English release, there are more people running around that have seen some adaptations of Nasu's works, and want to see more. Hilariously, this means that Fate seems to be arguably better known now than Tsukihime despite the latter's insane amount of popularity for a Visual Novel back in the day. I feel old.

Still, the Eyes of Death Perception that Tohno uses are mechanically different than Ryougi's. For one, his seems to cut at sympathetic weaknesses in something's concept, and can strike in a single point that shatters the concept of that something's state of being "alive". Ryougi's seems to only have lines (someone correct me if I am wrong here) and seems to target something's lifespan if she considers it at that moment to be something like "alive", as long as that something has the concept of an ending within its origin. All she has to do is understand the concept of an ending, and how it applies to the "concept" that she is viewing, and "cut to the chase" of that concept. It's an incredibly insane power.

Still, that Cade Skywalker could see in such a way is fascinating to me. And, he apparently had a power that Anakin wanted... the ability to save lives through the Dark Side. The very idea of that power, when prompted by his visions of Padme's demise via childbirth, is what led to him falling in the first place... Is Cade's story worth finding a copy and reading?

It absolutely is. Legacy is my favorite part of the EU/Legends by far. Cade himself might be a little OP but you have the rebuilding Jedi Order, the Imperial Knights, the One Sith who's absolutely insane..

Oh and let's not forget the badassery that is Gar Stazi.
 


For some reason this makes me smile. It also makes me want to see if we can nudge R2 to spend more time with Yoda.
 
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You aren't the only one... :p

I mean, the moment I read the 'Sees lines of death' I thought of that, and what it's crossed-over with. Of course, then Snark said it was obscure, so I thought that it couldn't possibly be that, because that seemed relatively big.

Little did I know that that was the obscure version and there was something much bigger that I hadn't even heard of... :p
Brother!
 
But why call Disney characters fanon OC?

Because Disney is an evil corporation out to ruin beloved franchises.

Their total control over the world building and script of the new Star Wars films will kill the franchise like the prequels did..... eerrr scratch that, like The Clone Wars tv show did..... eerrr scratch that, like Rebels did..... eerrr scratch that, like all the new literature did..... eerrr scratch that. Anyway it doesn't matter they'll ruin it.

Like they did Star Wars by getting rid of the EU and such great things like the Vong, the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances, Luke's Jedi who were actually grey Jedi so weren't like the old Jedi but were like the old Jedi.... or something. :V
 
(Omake) A Grievous Omission (Canon)
A Grievous Omission

I sat in the fishbowl of the Abyss Watchers med center. Look, after trying to do stuff I wasn't good at like spywork and combat, it was comforting to go do something I was actually good at. I still hadn't held my lightsaber since Coruscant, but I figured if I kept busy doing other things I wouldn't need it.

I walked back from the med center to my lodging and at my doorstep was Grievous. I blinked. "Sir?" I acknowledged. If he was here, something very bad was about to happen and the more I knew about it, the better.

Grievous looked at me and I thought I saw a hint of a smile on his face. "I have been watching you since you first joined my guard. I've seen you grow. I had been hoping advancing you would enable you to finally bloom. Your tactics were not bad, but your combat skill was embarrassing. I've arranged for you to train on Myrkr."

I blinked. "Understood, sir. What should I take with me?"

Grievous positively grinned, and my danger sense screamed at me. "Everything you'd want for a short walk. I will be back in one hour, and you will be coming with me."

My eyes went wide. I had an hour to pack everything I'd want for a short walk on Myrkr. I started my datapad loading everything available in the Abyss Watchers' files on Myrkr. I loaded up my combat harness. Medical kit, survival kit, scythe, blaster, lightsaber--look, it was a useful tool even if I couldn't use it as a weapon--datapad, and spare power packs for the blaster and power cells for the datapad and lightsaber, along with a basic toolkit to be able to repair these things. Look, ever since that warehouse on Coruscant I'm a little paranoid, okay?

The hour nearly finished and I met Grievous at my front door. "You're prompt. That's good news for your door."

I reviewed the datapad files on Myrkr while we flew there. The files were fairly brief. Forested. Plants tended to have a high metal content, which messed with sensors. Home of the ysalamiri and vornskrs. Vornskrs were vicious canines that got to around a meter high, sensed the Force and used it to hunt. Their typical prey, ysalamiri, were lizards that tended to cling to trees and generated bubbles in which the Force...was pushed back, or negated, or unable to be used. Reports differed.

Great. That uncertainty was just what I needed to be able to not sleep at night. I flipped my datapad back to "Introduction to Medical Ethics" and set up to sleep on the shuttle.

I woke to the sound of the proximity alarm.

"Well, it's beautiful, all right," I said, looking at the planet through the cockpit.

Grievous grinned. "Perfect for a short walk."

As we flew down to the planet's surface, I looked through the cockpit to try to find the Watchers facility. It wasn't showing up on the sensors at all, but that could be the weird plants having more metal than usual.

"I'll join you shortly. They're up ahead. It's a short walk," Grievous urged.

I made sure I had my things and stepped off the loading ramp of the shuttle. I'd taken about four steps and then the shuttle started to take off. I ran back toward it, but it was already pretty far up in the air. Apparently Grievous wasn't taking chances for some reason.

There was an electronic crackle and then the shuttle's speaker came to life. "The other side of the continent is your short walk. Do not fear, for I am always watching, and you will probably not die here."

I reached for the comm on my belt. "Probably, sir?"

There was laughter to the response over the comm. "Contrary to popular myth, I do sleep." The shuttle flew off.

"The other side of the continent. Oh. Shit."

I spent a few minutes looking over the map and getting my bearings, as well as where the actual Watchers facility was.

I then spent the next few weeks walking. And hunting. And walking. And running from vornskrs. And hiding from vornskrs. And finding ways to use ysalamiri bubbles to hide from vornskrs. And sleeping. And walking. And learning how to kill vornskrs. And walking. And sneaking past vornskrs. And finding water I could drink with the filter straw out of my survival kit. And sleeping.

I noticed my thoughts becoming more sharp, more focused. Immediate survival actions only. Keep moving to the target. Sneak past or kill anything in my way. If it took training from some form of hell to get to be good at this stuff? Well, a place where drawing upon the Force made you smell like a steak to two-meter-long scorpion-hounds and where there were areas sometimes kilometers wide where you couldn't actually grasp the Force would probably qualify as a form of hell.

By the end of week three, I started recognizing areas the ysalamiri liked congregating, started recognizing the tracks of vornskrs.

Up on top of what passed for a mountain here, I saw the facility down in the valley and started making my way towards it. I thought I saw the shuttle there too, but that might have been me hallucinating.

About a week later, I walked into the area the scientists had cleared for the facility. Grievous was there, and so was a dark-brown haired woman in black, holding herself as though the planet made her uneasy.

Looking at a timer in his hand, Grievous laughed. "I told you he'd make it under a month," Grievous said, extending his hand towards the woman, who seemed to growl in irritation.

"Remind me never to bet against you," she said in my direction, reaching into her pocket and slapping a twenty credit chit into Grievous' hand.

I grinned. "Thank you," I said, seeing amusement flare in her bright blue eyes. It was then that I recognized Masha.

She laughed. "Not you. Him," she said, indicating Grievous. "He's been telling me for the last week that taking his wager was a terrible mistake and he wanted to make sure I'd be here to rub it in, the schutta."

Grievous looked between us. "I have with me two training lightsabers. First one to land a blow on the other gets to go back on the shuttle with me. The other one has to walk back."

I blinked. Walking a month back? Like hell.

I started walking over, waiting for Masha to fully turn her back to me. I then called one of the sabers to hand, lit it and stabbed Masha in the back with it, the flesh sizzling and stinging. She fell, uninjured but very much in pain.

I turned to Masha, offering her my hand to stand up. "He didn't say when that started. You're way better at lightsabers than me. Also, there's no way in hell I'm walking a month the other way. It left me with one option, really." As she took my hand and pulled herself up, I leaned in close. Don't worry, I'll make it up to you in private.

Grievous smiled. "A month ago, you would have fought her normally...and probably lost."

"I learned a lot on my short walk, sir."

A/N: For some reason Riphath doesn't want to recall the actual details of the walk. Somehow, I don't blame him.

Unrelated:
Hasn't he removed the elections with his emergency powers until the war is over? I could have sworn something like that happened earlier.

...holy crap the Republic Emergency Powers Act is horrible.

Emergency Powers Act said:
It eliminated term limits for Supreme Chancellors, giving each Chancellor the option of when to stand down for new elections. The act also granted powers for chancellors to make instant decisions without the need for full senate approval, giving Palpatine all necessary authority to attempt to end the Separatist Crisis, including declaration of martial law on local systems.

The senate granted Palpatine special powers for the duration of the emergency, yet Palpatine himself was the only person who had the authority to declare the emergency over.
 
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Yeah it's basically the Star Wars equivalent of Senatus Consultum. George Lucas might have compared Palpatine to Nixon, but the Galactic Republic has more in common with the Late Roman Republic. A corrupt oligarchical democracy made up of Senators from predominantly privileged backgrounds (people of wealth, dynastic lines or puppets of the former two) who in a time of national crisis decide to democratically elect a dictator and grant him unlimited authority to deal with the situation.

Difference is in Rome the Dictator, in most cases, steps down peacefully after the situation is resolved and hands power back to the Senate. Palpatine has no intention and is only keeping democracy alive to discredit it for when he can declare an Empire.
 
Difference is in Rome the Dictator, in most cases, steps down peacefully after the situation is resolved and hands power back to the Senate. Palpatine has no intention and is only keeping democracy alive to discredit it for when he can declare an Empire.
It was actually exactly how Rome went from a Republic to an Empire.
Dictator for life became Emperor.
 
For a little context, early Rome had a strong antipathy towards Hereditary Kingship as a thing, and so instituted a lot of checks and balances designed to ensure that however influential you got, you couldn't make your rule permanent for your line.

But because they took great pride in their warmaking, and because their total and bloodyminded drive to never take a loss without paying back the victors and restoring the damage to Roman Manhood, the Dictator/Imperator became a necessary evil. Turns out a senate can't prosecute a war for shit(which also happened in SW).
The dictator had absolute power for a fixed term, and could thus mobilize the whole damned empire to crush whowever pissed them off. During the later empire this was a big pain because the biggest problems were internal, rebellious provinces, generals, etc were stuff that could actually give the Legions trouble.

So ultimately, a war drags on long enough, and the terms got extended. Once that happened it was just a matter of time before the 'emergency powers' got indefinitely extended.

But it's not all that unique to Rome. It's basically the classic roadmap for a democratic state moving towards an autocratic one. Wouldn't be much of a Democracy if you couldn't vote to end it!
 
It's basically the classic roadmap for a democratic state moving towards an autocratic one.
Incorrect, there wasn't a coup backed by the USA because they didn't like the elected government. :rolleyes:
Not that I can talk much, being from the UK. :oops:

Anyway, excellent omake Barondoctor. It's good to get confirmation from Grievous himself that he is in fact a living being and not some terrifying spectre from beyond space and time.
 
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