Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
They won't stop either way. It's just that I can include Ciaran in them if we learn it.
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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
- Thread starter Dr. Snark
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- Sci-Fi
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- star wars canon what canon tsundere dice ck2 quest actions have consequences all the credits all work and no play makes ciaran a dull girl best sister capitalism ho! despairing qm teetotaller society member gotta catch 'em all insanity looting off the rails sage dice approaching spicy sheev tsundere asajj
Well, that makes 12.
So:
[ ] Mission to Qiilura: last year, the Senate promised to evict Qiilura's human colonists in exchange for the native Gurlanins' assistance against the CIS. The deal went through... and the Senate stalled. Then the Gurlanin sent two agents to Coruscant to ensure the Senate upheld the bargain... and the human colonists refused to cooperate. More fools they. Negotiate with the Gurlanins for Qiilura to join the CNS, to create an excuse to deport the humans per the original deal. In exchange, the natives will agree to let Lady Ciaran recruit Gurlanin agents for the Abyss Watchers, starting with the pair who worked with Omega Squad on Coruscant. Reward: Qiilura joins the CNS, receive 2 Gurlanin agents, chance of ongoing Gurlanin recruitment, Etain Mur-Turkan leaves the Jedi Order, chance of gaining Etain as part-time Lore Advisor (increased odds of Abyss Agents tiering up).
Yeah. @Dr. Snark, I'd like to put this forward as another Diplomacy recruitment write-in. The 'official' reward would be Qiilura joins the CNS, but the main reason we'd want to pick it would be the possibility of recruiting Gurlanin agents to join the Abyss Watchers.
I like this -- perhaps a secondary reward could be that Etain's assistance increases the odds for our Force Users to tier up each turn.
Giving our 'Abyss Apprentices' a 40/50% chance of tiering up, and/or giving 'Abyss Agents' a 10/15% chance (depending on how good the roll).
So:
[ ] Mission to Qiilura: last year, the Senate promised to evict Qiilura's human colonists in exchange for the native Gurlanins' assistance against the CIS. The deal went through... and the Senate stalled. Then the Gurlanin sent two agents to Coruscant to ensure the Senate upheld the bargain... and the human colonists refused to cooperate. More fools they. Negotiate with the Gurlanins for Qiilura to join the CNS, to create an excuse to deport the humans per the original deal. In exchange, the natives will agree to let Lady Ciaran recruit Gurlanin agents for the Abyss Watchers, starting with the pair who worked with Omega Squad on Coruscant. Reward: Qiilura joins the CNS, receive 2 Gurlanin agents, chance of ongoing Gurlanin recruitment, Etain Mur-Turkan leaves the Jedi Order, chance of gaining Etain as part-time Lore Advisor (increased odds of Abyss Agents tiering up).
- Location
- america
i never knew i wanted to shot a sith lord to death so much until now
also i am voting to call the 3rd tier force users abyss watcher's
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Bones
Don't look behind you.
- Location
- Behind you.
And afterwords we can finally kidnap someone. Because I refuse to let up on that.
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
So what are our Force users equivalent to?
Would a Tier 1 be equal to a Youngling since we're teaching them the Force from scratch? Would a Tier 2 be equal to a Padawan and a Tier 3 be a Knight?
Do they actually do anything for the organization or do they just sit around the Oracle and various bases around the galaxy and train?
Would a Tier 1 be equal to a Youngling since we're teaching them the Force from scratch? Would a Tier 2 be equal to a Padawan and a Tier 3 be a Knight?
Do they actually do anything for the organization or do they just sit around the Oracle and various bases around the galaxy and train?
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- Location
- america
tier 1 is padawan 2 is knight and 3 is master
- Location
- Seattle, WA
Going to have to ask @Dr. Snark for confirmation, but I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. I don't have time to go back though the whole thread, but I think Tier 3 is Jedi Knight Level. And not even a particularly good Jedi Knight, like, dead average.
Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
Tell you what, that'll trigger next time something is added to the Vault. So...probably sometime next turn knowing your rolls.
To be fair the genius of Ciaran is that it's totally in line for her to look at something happening and go "I want to get in on that action" no matter what, whether it's from profit or trolling.
...I approve. Can't make it canon yet, but you definitely deserve that +10.
Hmm...I might end up reworking the rewards but I can make this work.
- Location
- america
hey what are our agent's compared to? knight's or padawans?
Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
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- He/His/Him
Shit I forgot to respond to that.
Your highest tier Agents are currently comparable to well-trained Padawans in terms of Force power, whereas Tier 3 Agents would be comparable to your average Jedi Knight.
That's not to say that they are unskilled; a more accurate way to put it is that they are broadly skilled but not particularly specialized. They're not only learning Force powers but also being put through very vigorous conventional training to make them some of the deadliest members of the Watchers.
- Location
- america
so what's the chance of them surviving (tier 3 and 2) against a jedi knight? or killing one?
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Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
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- He/His/Him
That's...complicated, mainly because no Agent would ever take on a Jedi (or Sith) in a straight-up fight if they can help it, and it's very difficult for them to be blindsided thanks to Buried Presence. Given the chance, an Agent (or more likely an entire team of them) would try to launch an overwhelming surprise attack to eliminate their target.
It'd be much dicier for them in a straight-up fight; the Agents fight dirty to be sure but odds are the Jedi in question would be more skilled in a straight up 1v1 fight than a Tier 2 Agent. A Tier 3 Agent could probably fight an average Knight toe-to-toe but would lose to a proper Master.
Ardion Prosili
An (im)Perfect Cell
Man, I'm excited to see what the rumor mill is grinding out, if only to get to the next turn and see all the non-firey metalrope options! 
- Location
- america
okay then, what are the 3rd and 4th level agent's called then? because i want the 4th one to be called abyss watchers (it's funny because the name's are the same)
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
So they're being trained more like Imperial Knights then Jedi.
Of course they're still missing proper lightsabers. We're sort of lacking when it comes to Lightsaber forms and combat.
Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
Hey, remember the first omake I made? You know, the origin story I said was part one? Well guess what I happen to be working on!
Link? First omake in this thread, or last one?
EDIT: never mind. You got me curious, so I found it. Last thread, here you go:
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Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
My very first one in the last thread. I'll link to it when I'm done with the second part. That might be tomorrow night depending on how bored I am with the games I own.
- Location
- Asia
So Ciaran should be much better than most Masters by now.
- Location
- Tromso, Norway.
Given that all you need to do to become a master is to successfully train a padawan to knight status, probably.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
In a straight up fight or in irregular combat?
Stealthy
Reverently Irreverent
- Location
- Roaming
Yeah Snark's laid out the benchmarks a few times now. Ciaran is certainly not at the level of a Master, let alone exceeding them. The char sheet puts her as on par with most Jedi, meaning she's probably at Knight level or so. The trick with stats is that you need to balance them so that there's actually room to grow, hence why you have Thrawn starting off at 32 Martial instead of like 10-20 points higher.