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- At the Edge of Insanity
*manical laughter ensues* Been waiting for that. They won't know what hit them.
Plagueis must be enjoying the accident that is Ciarans rise to power A WHOLE LOT right now.
May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
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Plagueis must be enjoying the accident that is Ciarans rise to power A WHOLE LOT right now.
- Location
- USA
Didn't we crit the counter blackmail roll?
Dooku is going to be pissed.
So, Onderon is about to be in for an unpleasant time. OTOH, this means that if we focus our hero support on helping the Onderon rebels ("Thrawn, Grievous, The Silencer, and Asajj Ventress walk into a bar. The bartender immediately surrenders."), we might have a decent chance of capturing/neutralizing Sevrance Tann. (Asajj can have her revenge at last). Even if we don't capture her, a major failure on Onderon would undercut her stature within the CIS high command -- Dooku might demote her for incomptence, or even arrange a suicide mission/kill order a la Asajj Ventress.
Isn't Sullust a Separatist world? It shows it as such on the maps that I have, and SoroSuub is a member of the Commerce Guild, which sits on the high Council.... Or is this referring to some Republic battle-fleet that's probing at the Sullust system, and Tann is expecting to lead a counterattack?
...
It's worth noting that, despite the IGBC's ongoing (and barely secret) support for the CIS in canon, the Senate never voted for an embargo or to punish the IGBC in any way. In fact, they rewarded the IGBC, by deregulating more and more of the bank's activity in order to take out new loans. (The Senate's sense of betrayal over this is why Palpatine got away with seizing the Scipio vaults).
Remember that many of the mega-corporations that fund the Separatists still have a vote in the Senate, and despite their support for a rebellion, their continued economic cooperation with the Republic is seen as vital to funding the Republic's war machine and keeping the galaxy out of a Great Depression.
Basically, an embargo would be troublesome for us, but it may well be catastrophic for the Republic, and would do more to undercut Palpatine's popularity in the Senate and his ongoing effort to militarize the galaxy than anything we could do to it. This would be the definition of shooting yourself in the foot.
As for our response, while we could go along with it, I suspect we could probably get away with ignoring it or disregarding it. We do have a lot of income coming from back-channels (smuggling, intelligence gathering) and from CIS worlds. If we need the assist, the IGBC would certainly be willing to float us a loan or two, especially now that the incredibly rich resource-world of Mygeeto is part of Neutral Space.
In addition, we are also 'riding the high' of the PR coup of a century, a galactic cease-fire. if Palpatine (known as a war-hawk) tries to shut us down with this new embargo, we could pretty easily score some PR points against him by claiming (rightly) that he wants to punish us for the cease-fire. This pro-peace message could coincide with our meeting (suggested by Seti Ashgad) with the leaders of the anti-Palpatine faction within the Senate.
All told: I don't expect it will be too hard to turn Palpatine's reaction to our advantage. In fact, I kind of expect it will be easy. So much so, that I'm wondering if Palpatine would commit such a blunder, and if the omake's "canonicity" should be reconsidered...
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Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The Defibrillator of Liberty
"In order to insure the security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first! Galactic! Empire!" shouted Supreme Chancellor, now Emperor Palpatine. The Senate Chamber was filled with applause as he continued. "For a safe, and secure society!"
Senator Padme Amidala stopped leaning forward and looked to her closest friend in shock and abject horror. "So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause." One could clearly hear the disgust and disappointment in her voice as she spat the words out.
"Don't you fret your little head, Padme." said Ciaran, placing a hand reassuringly on her friend's shoulder. "I think I have just the thing to bring liberty back to life."
Just then the First Galactic Emperor wheeled around, whipping out a blood red lightsaber as what looked like a green blaster bolt shot its way clear through the walls of the Senate Chamber and hurtled toward him. The laser impacted the blade, and while the lightsaber did its job of protecting the Emperor, it was also sent flying from his hand.
"Oh no! The Emperor is a Sith Lord!" shouted Ciaran in mock panic as the rest of the Senator actually did panic. "Quickly, we must apprehend him!"
XXX
Miles away, Larana frantically tried to keep her grip on her cousin and pull him back up onto the roof. Cheriss had warned them the blaster cannon she had built for Galvin had a great deal of recoil, practically unheard of for a blaster weapon, but neither of them had expected a single shot to send him tumbling through the air and off the edge of the roof. Luckily Larana had been quick enough to grab his ankle before he could plummet to his doom.
"Haha! That felt amazing!" shouted Galvin as he clambered back up onto the roof, gun still in hand.
"Galvin, take another shot, same place as before." He heard Ciaran's voice through the open comm-link.
"Coming right up." Galvin sprinted back to his previous position, hitting the ground and aiming the large firearm back where it had been.
"One degree to the right and two degrees down." said Thrawn, spotting the shot using the mathematics of the previous shot and a live camera feed of the Senate Chambers. Darth Sidious was currently on his platform, which was lowering into the ground. Luckily for Thrawn, it did so at a consistent pace at all times, and the bodies Palpatine had placed between himself and the shooter would do little to slow a laser of such caliber.
"Got it." said Galvin, realigning the cannon appropriately to lead the shot of a target he couldn't even see. He fired again, and the green laser streaked through Coruscant, the recoil once more sending an exuberant Galvin flying backwards. This time Larana was ready and caught him before he reached the edge of the roof.
XXX
Padme watched the chaos unfold as Ciaran laughed to her right. Another green blaster bolt came shooting in from somewhere, punching a hole straight through the chest of Mas Amedda and kept going, leaving a gaping wound wide enough across to see through. The wounds were cauterized instantly, but both leaders were dead before they could hit the floor.
Padme turned to Ciaran in horror. "What did you just do Ciaran?"
Ciaran merely spoke once more into her communicator. "Excellent shot Galvin. If you haven't named the kyber crystal cannon yet, might I suggest The Defibrillator?"
AN: A little (obviously non-canon) piece about Galvin using the mini Death Star laser his girlfriend built him to save the galaxy. It was too good not to write down.
I may have ideas that are pretty much exactly that. So look forward to the next omake.
EDIT: ...Well. This was timely.
If only because with the absolute flood of omakes recently (cough @Panory), I've noticed that it's gotten harder to sort through the threadmarks and find the major story updates, or identify where turns start and stop.
A suggestion for @Dr. Snark: one of the other quests I follow is Magna Graecia, run by @Cetashwayo. I'm not sure how he does it, but his threadmarks list manages to 'indent' (in the 'View All' screen) any threadmarked post that doesn't start a new turn or mini-arc, which leaves them looking like a proper outline structure.
I've also seen other quests that have rearranged their threadmarks to chronological order -- so you could sort through the omakes and move them around to the right place (for instance, you could move those Yorvi the Hutt omakes to be after the recent Turn updates that made them canon).
Finally, in cases where the omakes get really out of hand, I've also seen the quest authors/managers just give up, stop threadmarking anything except the main story posts, but just keep a single (threadmarked) list that links to all omakes with a title and/or one-line summary of each.
I certainly don't mind the slew of omakes -- they're what made us so successfully! -- but this is just some (hopefully helpful) options for how you might keep them organized.
If only because with the absolute flood of omakes recently (cough @Panory), I've noticed that it's gotten harder to sort through the threadmarks and find the major story updates, or identify where turns start and stop.
A suggestion for @Dr. Snark: one of the other quests I follow is Magna Graecia, run by @Cetashwayo. I'm not sure how he does it, but his threadmarks list manages to 'indent' (in the 'View All' screen) any threadmarked post that doesn't start a new turn or mini-arc, which leaves them looking like a proper outline structure.
I've also seen other quests that have rearranged their threadmarks to chronological order -- so you could sort through the omakes and move them around to the right place (for instance, you could move those Yorvi the Hutt omakes to be after the recent Turn updates that made them canon).
Finally, in cases where the omakes get really out of hand, I've also seen the quest authors/managers just give up, stop threadmarking anything except the main story posts, but just keep a single (threadmarked) list that links to all omakes with a title and/or one-line summary of each.
I certainly don't mind the slew of omakes -- they're what made us so successfully! -- but this is just some (hopefully helpful) options for how you might keep them organized.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
All told: I don't expect it will be too hard to turn Palpatine's reaction to our advantage. In fact, I kind of expect it will be easy. So much so, that I'm wondering if Palpatine would commit such a blunder, and if the omake's "canonicity" should be reconsidered...
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Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
...
It's worth noting that, despite the IGBC's ongoing (and barely secret) support for the CIS in canon, the Senate never voted for an embargo or to punish the IGBC in any way. In fact, they rewarded the IGBC, by deregulating more and more of the bank's activity in order to take out new loans. (The Senate's sense of betrayal over this is why Palpatine got away with seizing the Scipio vaults).
Remember that many of the mega-corporations that fund the Separatists still have a vote in the Senate, and despite their support for a rebellion, their continued economic cooperation with the Republic is seen as vital to funding the Republic's war machine and keeping the galaxy out of a Great Depression.
Basically, an embargo would be troublesome for us, but it may well be catastrophic for the Republic, and would do more to undercut Palpatine's popularity in the Senate and his ongoing effort to militarize the galaxy than anything we could do to it. This would be the definition of shooting yourself in the foot.
As for our response, while we could go along with it, I suspect we could probably get away with ignoring it or disregarding it. We do have a lot of income coming from back-channels (smuggling, intelligence gathering) and from CIS worlds. If we need the assist, the IGBC would certainly be willing to float us a loan or two, especially now that the incredibly rich resource-world of Mygeeto is part of Neutral Space.
In addition, we are also 'riding the high' of the PR coup of a century, a galactic cease-fire. if Palpatine (known as a war-hawk) tries to shut us down with this new embargo, we could pretty easily score some PR points against him by claiming (rightly) that he wants to punish us for the cease-fire. This pro-peace message could coincide with our meeting (suggested by Seti Ashgad) with the leaders of the anti-Palpatine faction within the Senate.
All told: I don't expect it will be too hard to turn Palpatine's reaction to our advantage. In fact, I kind of expect it will be easy. So much so, that I'm wondering if Palpatine would commit such a blunder, and if the omake's "canonicity" should be reconsidered...
First off, I wasn't expecting Palpatine to start such a plan immediately. I was thinking maybe 2-3 turns after the last one. This would allow for "bad things" to happen to us which would allow for such a plan. Palpatine's thoughts of an embargo would be step 10 or something, not step 1. He's smart. He might be an arrogant sonnofabitch but he's a smart arrogant sonnofabitch. He's planning around his orders to Dooku which he thinks will pressure the CNS to come out of neutrality in some way which allows for the Republic to smack down on the CNS somehow.
All I'm saying is that this Omake was only supposed to be the start of a plan. Not a full-proof one.
Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
- Location
- Across the Horizon
It's a finickity fucking little thing but you go to the threadmarks box, click the lock, and then start dragging individual threadmarks around. If you put it on top of an already existing threadmark it becomes nested.
Fair enough, and makes sense that his plotting would have more layers than that.
Huh. Good point.
EDIT: though @fictionfan, you did double-post twice. One post with two videos, another post with a single one.
Holy crap that was fast. Thanks for the help!
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Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm not sure whether to apologize or be flattered. Either way, can't stop me now.
So, I've been looking over some Lightsaber forms and I think that with some work we could create a rather dangerous and unorthodox technique, Ciaran has proven rather proficient with Makashi thanks to her tutelage with Count Dooku, examining the style it appears to be a largely one handed style.
I think we could, with training in the Blazing Chain techniques, modify the style to include a blaster pistol intended to force openings in an opponent's guard from an unorthodox vector.
Being capable of deploying blaster shots from close range manipulated to strike at bizarre angles could be crippling to an enemy deploying duellist styles leaving them open to quick capitalisation of their forced exposure whereas appropriately defensive forms could be forced open by Makashi-esque strikes and manipulations, such a style would be complex and require a simultaneous mastery of the lightsaber and remote force manipulation hence why I think the efficiency and elegant simplicity of Makashi would be ideal as the core of the lightsaber bladework.
I think that such a development could benefit from studying the Ataru and Soresu styles to improve blaster bolt manipulation, perhaps opening up some rather dangerous tactics manipulating blaster fire deflected from one's own blade in close combat.
This would be a very 'light' style of combat as the saber and blaster combo would preclude being able to employ both hands for either defence or offence, as such a user would either have to focus on keeping their foe off balance by forcing them into a disadvantageous position or overwhelming a foe quickly under a barrage of mulit-angled strikes and crippling thrusts.
Defence would have to rely on deflections and evasion, I see direct blocks being a death sentence so fluidity and a control of one's mobility would be absolutely essential.
I envisage this as being somewhat specialised as a counter-duellist tactic countered somewhat by masters of Ataru and Shien, assuming they have time to adapt. It could even find use as an assassination style for lightsaber users if a user is also a master of buried presence and able to keep themselves 'buried' after releasing a blaster shot to force an opponent's guard into a mortal position.
It'd take a fair bit of study and skill development but I think we could create something that would make our Agents truly dangerous even when pitted against other Force Users, with the sheer oddness helping to lessen the general experience gap our Agents would likely face.
So, thoughts? Any use at all or a load of hogwash?
I think we could, with training in the Blazing Chain techniques, modify the style to include a blaster pistol intended to force openings in an opponent's guard from an unorthodox vector.
Being capable of deploying blaster shots from close range manipulated to strike at bizarre angles could be crippling to an enemy deploying duellist styles leaving them open to quick capitalisation of their forced exposure whereas appropriately defensive forms could be forced open by Makashi-esque strikes and manipulations, such a style would be complex and require a simultaneous mastery of the lightsaber and remote force manipulation hence why I think the efficiency and elegant simplicity of Makashi would be ideal as the core of the lightsaber bladework.
I think that such a development could benefit from studying the Ataru and Soresu styles to improve blaster bolt manipulation, perhaps opening up some rather dangerous tactics manipulating blaster fire deflected from one's own blade in close combat.
This would be a very 'light' style of combat as the saber and blaster combo would preclude being able to employ both hands for either defence or offence, as such a user would either have to focus on keeping their foe off balance by forcing them into a disadvantageous position or overwhelming a foe quickly under a barrage of mulit-angled strikes and crippling thrusts.
Defence would have to rely on deflections and evasion, I see direct blocks being a death sentence so fluidity and a control of one's mobility would be absolutely essential.
I envisage this as being somewhat specialised as a counter-duellist tactic countered somewhat by masters of Ataru and Shien, assuming they have time to adapt. It could even find use as an assassination style for lightsaber users if a user is also a master of buried presence and able to keep themselves 'buried' after releasing a blaster shot to force an opponent's guard into a mortal position.
It'd take a fair bit of study and skill development but I think we could create something that would make our Agents truly dangerous even when pitted against other Force Users, with the sheer oddness helping to lessen the general experience gap our Agents would likely face.
So, thoughts? Any use at all or a load of hogwash?
Well, Sidious just shot himself into the foot.
Ardion Prosili
An (im)Perfect Cell
It seems like a neat and feasible idea to me @XenonPrime , but we'll have to up Ciaran's martial/lore to really see the dividends, I think.
Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Well, pulling a blaster on people got canon Grievous out of a number of jams. Don't see why it wouldn't help us.
Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
People, People, People! Palpatine isn't going to be (shouldn't be) acting openly against us so quickly! He will know all of this which is why his first step will be some sort of smear campaign. His first actions will be to lower our reputation to such a point where he will be open to get rid of us. This also ignores any underhanded tactics to get rid of us permanently.
"It is not supposed to harm her. It is supposed to leave her open to other attacks. From all sides she will be forced to defend. In the end she will be weak and without allies. It is then that from the darkness her final defeat shall arise."
Panory
The Omake Dragon
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Definitely useful. Most Jedi (and Sith) seem to have a distaste for blasters that is completely out of proportion to their usefulness. Besides which, a lightsaber style designed for blaster fire could be even better for combat in groups, since duelists would know to expect blaster-fire interruptions and would learn where and when to place their fire for best effect.
Seriously, if you (or someone) wants to turn this into an omake, with a Lore write-in next turn to create a custom combat/dueling style... yeah, that'd be sweet.
On the other hand, we did just discover HK-47. As soon as we can wake him up and persuade him to join us as a Hero unit, I imagine he'll have plenty of suggestions for an effective combat style. (I imagine, if anything, that would probably be his Hero Action, setting him on the task of finding a way to convincingly beat this Darth Sidious guy...)
- Location
- At the Edge of Insanity
Okay, I usually don't leave ratings, but for this you get one. *is dying of laughter right now since that fits so well*
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Oh absolutely, I certainly don't think it could be at all possible without mastering the Blazing Chain techniques and would almost certainly require at least a workable familiarity with Soresu or Ataru just to avoid being killed by an unfortunate deflection.
We have a few options for those styles, one of which is arranging tutelage with friendly Jedi if we're comfortable admitting to being that capable if we find something suitably valuable to trade.
Or we could plunder some lost repository, who knows, if we've secured some shade of Kreia as a tutor that solve many of our problems regarding techniques and styles.
One of my inspirations, albeit taking it further into an actual method of combat rather than as a surprise gambit.
Ace! I think it'd be somewhat gated but I think it'd suit our eclectic style as well as complement our Agents' own patchwork style.
I'll try and think of something to do with early experiments to write.
- Location
- Tulsa Oklahoma
I will enjoy it when those who he considers to be pawns to betray him due to attempts to remove us from the playing field. The main problem with attempting to use an "us or them" narrative, sometimes they choose them.
- Location
- UK
I'll give writing it a go if @XenonPrime doesn't mind but do we know if our Abyss Agents and Apprentices use lightsabers/lightfoils as i vaguely remember us acquiring a stash or am i making that up?
- Location
- america
we only got one lightfoil, however, we have the home of a sith lord, and we also have a sith lord ghost. we have good lightsabers. or we will next round, just got to make them.
I had a thought earlier when I was figuring out which systems now belong to Neutral Space.
Did you know that the Damask family has been around since basically forever? They're even a 'clan'. The original Hego Damask (Darth Plagueis's grandfather) was a Muun banker of some note. Plagueis's father (Caar Damask) was a Muunilist banker who was selected to serve as administrator of Mygeeto and later IGBC Chairman. Caar Damask was rich enough to buy the game planet of Sojourn (called "Hunters' Moon") and turn it into a IGBC resort-cum-think tank that would host annual 'Gatherings' of the financial elite.
As for Plagueis... Hego Damask II inherited so much wealth upon his father's death that in 120 BBY (a bit past his 20th birthday) he had enough money to start his own investment company and immediately purchase a superspire in the capital city of Harnaidan as its headquarters.
It's also worth noting that (per the 'Damask clan' article):
So he's basically your stereotypical rich kid, who's handed enough money in his 20s to literally buy a skyscraper, who then proceeds to use his resources and Sith training to off everyone else in the family, presumably arranging their murders so that all of their fortunes would ultimately be inherited by him.
For most of his 'youth' (until he was about 70 years old -- don't ask), Hego traveled the galaxy at the side of his master Darth Tenebrous (known as the custom starship designer & Damask family friend, Rugess Nome), familiarizing himself with the Baneite Sith network of agents/informants and making contact with the galactic elite. On Nome's death (aka, once Plagueis had killed him) in 67 BBY, Hego returned to Muunilist and took full control of Damask Holdings and his clan inheritance. After narrowly surviving an assassinations attempt (in 52 BBY) that did kill his business partners and Damask Holdings manager, Darth Plagueis retired to conduct his midi-chlorian research full-time.
And then, twenty years later (32 BBY), on the eve of Palpatine's election as Supreme Channcelor in 32 BBY, Plagueis was killed by his apprentice.
At the time of his death, Hego Damask II owned:
- The "Hunters' Moon" of Sojourn, including an ancient Sith fortress used as his personal retreat
- The Harnaidan superspire on Muunilist, which served as his corporate headquarters
- The Aborah "vault-spire" (volcanic lava-column filled with precious metals), which served as Plagueis's research lab for midichlorian experiments
- The Kaldani Spires Residential Apartment building in Coruscant's Monument Plaza (reserving the penthouse suite for his own personal use).
Now, given Palpatine's own ambition and cunning, I have no doubt that most of his fungible assets were (indirectly) taken over by Palpatine himself. That probably includes the Kaldani Spires building as well, given the Coruscant proximity.
However, I'm not at all confident that Palpatine got his hands on Hego Damask's properties on Muunilist. For one thing: the connection between Palpatine and Dasmask was not public knowledge -- it was apparently a shocking revelation when Pax Teem (Gran senator and potential Chancellor candidate) discovered the two of them working together. Moreover, if only because Hego's entire clan had died, there was no one able to inherit directly. Frankly, given the size of the company, the genetic distance to the closest surviving relative, and Hego's own twenty-year isolation, it wouldn't surprise me if the estate was still in probate court.
Why do I bring all this up? Because two years before Hego Damask's death, we received:
So we did a favor for the IGBC, and Hego Damask came out of isolation to pay us back. Considering that those credits let us hook up with the Trade Federation on their Naboo invasion, and the datachips gave us a headstart to understanding the Force... we're basically Hego Damask's protege.
Of course, we later found out that Damask Holdings had funded the Sienar fleet and the clone army that are the backbone of the GAR, and that he was in all likelihood a Sith lord. But we don't have problems with Sith Lords -- in fact, we're already employing one.
And what did we do with Darth Vectivus, again? Right -- we went to his home and claimed it in the name of the Abyss Watchers.
Anyone interested in doing the same with Damask's Aborah research-lab, or Sojourn? In fact, I'm kinda curious to see what's new with the Damask Holdings superspire in downtown Harnaidan, given that it's been (mostly) unused for twenty years. Depending on how that probate case is going, I wonder if Muunilist might be willing to sell it to us. We are pretty popular there, or so I'm told.
...Actually...
...Right now, I'm wondering if we could ret-con our Muunilist mansion purchase (last turn) so that it turns out we had actually purchased the Damask Holdings superspire. That would be just. so. perfect -- to accidentally lay claim to the Damask legacy, as his rightful protege (the only one that didn't kill him, after all). The building is in downtown Harnaidan, so it still fits the 'cheap due to bomb & blaster damage from the recent battle'. And it would be exactly our kind of luck to unwittingly purchase a building once owned by a Sith Lord. Anyway.
The original reason I brought all of this us was to convince us to use our amazing public image & connections to lay claim to some of Hego Damask's other assets, especially Abadon and Sojourn. Frankly, given our incredible Intrigue stat and our past connection, I'm wondering if we couldn't slice into the Damask files and insert some proviso that lets us 'inherit' parts of his business empire outright. Or something that clears us the probate so we are allowed to buy up some of his other properties on the planet.
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