Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
[X] Plan teambuilding
-[X]Luthor+Pamela - Destroy Jason Woodrue reptation.
-[X]Mercy+Ivo - Tighten security
 
We are not ignoring it. We have an action dedicated to it. We actually have two actions dedicated two it. And they quite low DC.

What disaster do you expect to happen if we won't get useful information about assassins? Don't act as if it is something we have to do. It isn't

My plan has Mercy working on security so that works against another assassination attempt or sabotage.

The DC is fairly low, but every option this round has a fairly low option. Comparatively, the DC of the investigate the five assassins is a on the upper half. My issue is that your plan is supporting the lowest DC option- the one most likely to succeed, while ignoring the second highest-DC option and also ignoring the "let's try and find out who is trying to kill us" option. In favor of supporting something that already has the highest probability of success (you're just trying to get a higher cooperation in addition to the success). Which is important.

Just, not "People are trying to kill us- who?" and also we know as "someone is trying to puppet both us and the League of Assassins for an unknown reason and we don't know who". So, is it necessary? More necessary than having a higher cooperation above what we will get with a DC 5 option. Also, degree of failure has to be considered: a DC 5 degree of failure is not as high as a DC 23 degree of failure possibility. On a roll of 1 on a DC 23, we might get the police pissed at us, tip our hands to the third party, have the League convinced it was us, and get the wrong idea of who is trying to kill us. So, the entire shadow war on our part will not have a cogent plan.

So, yeah. Pretty important to know who is trying to kill us.
 
I just don't want Anthony Ives going unassigned, since the dude is pretty obviously a "Starscream" type just waiting to go "A God am I" and rampage as AMAZO.
 
The DC is fairly low, but every option this round has a fairly low option. Comparatively, the DC of the investigate the five assassins is a on the upper half. My issue is that your plan is supporting the lowest DC option- the one most likely to succeed, while ignoring the second highest-DC option and also ignoring the "let's try and find out who is trying to kill us" option. In favor of supporting something that already has the highest probability of success (you're just trying to get a higher cooperation in addition to the success). Which is important.

Just, not "People are trying to kill us- who?" and also we know as "someone is trying to puppet both us and the League of Assassins for an unknown reason and we don't know who". So, is it necessary? More necessary than having a higher cooperation above what we will get with a DC 5 option. Also, degree of failure has to be considered: a DC 5 degree of failure is not as high as a DC 23 degree of failure possibility. On a roll of 1 on a DC 23, we might get the police pissed at us, tip our hands to the third party, have the League convinced it was us, and get the wrong idea of who is trying to kill us. So, the entire shadow war on our part will not have a cogent plan.

So, yeah. Pretty important to know who is trying to kill us.
Yes, it is pretty important to know who is trying to kill us. But we can learn it later should we be unlucky and don't find it right now. You are again trying to overrepresent the actual importance of the action.

You should also notice that I don't actually mind Luthor doing whatever else. He is reasonably beneficial at any action. I actively mind Ivo doing anything alone and Pamela doing something that doesn't fit her motivation at all. She didn't join us to recruit us new minions, she wants to save the planet and study plants. For me, it is not-negotiable that Pamela should work on Woodroe's action.

With her working on the Woodroe action, I see a good potential for giving her an opportunity to work together with Luthor without sacrificing much because we don't have must pass actions. Yes, failing to get information about our enemies will be unpleasant but not the end of the world. I believe that actively working towards 9th action to outweigh risks of minor (yes minor) failure. Especially if we'll add huge benefits of a possible highroll.

But I am absolutely fine with Luthor doing whatever else (and can't say that I am 100% that it wouldn't be better) as long as Pamela is doing something she has some personal interest in.

Mercy+Ivo pair is also very logical for me. We are guaranteed that Ivo will be pissed. We can't get much use of Ivo no matter where we assign him, I consider the idea of forcing him to defend the reputation of a person he despises to be an absurd decision. So, my logic is simple - why not put him together with Mercy. Not only she will watch over him, we may even get their cooperation a 0.1 better or something on a highroll. (Or they may start hating each other, but then they'll just don't work together again)

I repeat, Luthor's assignment is the least important part for me. My problem with the Best We Can plan is how Pamela and Ivo used. We did a poor job not picking suitable actions for them during the last vote, voting for the current second by votes plan makes it even worse.
 
Plus, making sure our employees have high cooperation is even more important with the reveal that we have enemies gunning for us. Raising it is vital so they don't betray us.
 
The vote is now closed [ ] Plan team building won. Woodrue somehow managed to easily top Ivo as most disgusting mad scientist in the setting. Yay?
 
Turn 3 results
Here is the results

Turn 3 Results

Things are not going as well as you had hoped these past three months. This pseudo-war with the League of Shadows has severely hampered LexCorp's ability to get things done. There were over thirty different attempts on your life since the first attempt. Unlike before the assassins are not committing to an attack but are instead probing to see how they can bypass the towers security measures. The police, lazy and content due to your own successes are unable to deal with this situation. There are talks of the US government getting involved if the situation continues to devolve as it has so far. The wheels of progress turn inexorably forward. You've still made significant steps forward despite the immense frustration this League of Shadows has caused you. When the time comes and you've completed your plans you'll make this league regret ever crossing Lex Luthor.

[ ] Look into hiring a PR representative
DC 12
Roll 14
Bare success

Before the League of Shadows incident people would have sold their own mother for the chance to represent LexCorp in PR. Now however with Lois Lane writing some less than flattering articles about you and the whole mess with the League of Shadows (of which the public knows very little details beyond that a bunch of ninjas have apparently decided to assassinate you) and people are hesitant to commit to the company. THe League of Shadows mess is particularly bad since it frightens the man on the street and investors that LexCorp has drawn the ire of some very dangerous people who are able to completely evade the authorities and are virtual unknowns. Still there were a few candidates who were willing to sign up for a risky job that might lead to them getting killed.

Results: PR Rep subvote
[ ] Increase manufacturing cell phones
DC 10
Roll 31
Significant success

Your Lex-Phone manufacturing is going well. You've about hit market saturation with everyone who would buy a Lex-Phone probably already having bought one. Most conveniently of all though your phone manufacturing facilities can easily be retooled to make microchips as well for future projects

Results: Lex-Phones are now incredibly common. Phone creation facilities can be used to make other things if market drops down a bit.

[ ] Investigate the five dead assassins
DC 20
Roll 27
Bare success

Someone wants the leader of the League of Shadows, Ra's al Ghul, to believe that you are challenging him. You don't know who or why but with the delay this little conflict has already caused to your plans you would certainly be glad to find this person so you could personally make them pay for blocking your progress. Still you have to credit whoever framed you they were certainly skilled. No records of the person entering or exiting the holding cell exist and all of the camera footage of the past three weeks has been wiped from the system. The person wasn't carrying a Lex-Phone on them that you could track and both the cell and the building that housed it are utterly undamaged. It is immensely frustrating to be this heavily stumped on who did this how they did this and where they are now. Still you have made some progress on figuring out how they did it. As Ms. Lane mentioned in your interview with her the assassins were all killed with some kind of bladed weapon. By investigating the corpses of the assassins you were able to learn three things. One, based on a group of similar puncture wounds in the bodies near the pulmonary artery the weapon was likely some kind of lightweight sword. You can glean further information from this. Due to the inherent issues with the logistics of carving through a human body cleanly in one swing the decapitation and mutilation likely was performed after the assassins were dead to obscure how they were actually killed. Secondly, it is known that the assassins died while awake based off of the autopsy results but there was no sign of a struggle which indicates that it is likely that the assassins knew who their killer was and accepted death. The third fact you've deduced is that message to Ra's was written after all of the assassins had died of blood loss indicating that it is likely that whoever framed you was also manipulating the League of Shadows

Results: No evidence of ??? found. Three facts of how the murder was carried out were learned. 1 The murders were done with a lightweight sword as evidenced by how the assassins were wounded, 2 the assassins died awake but did not struggle, 3 The message was written after the assassins had all died. From this you can safely conclude three things 1 the mutilation was a red herring, 2 the assassins knew who killed them and accepted death, 3 the assassins were unaware of the message that would be written indicating that they were manipulated.

[ ] Donate to injured veterans
DC 10
Roll 16
Bare success

With the current mess with the League of Shadows you haven't been able to do much to improve your city. You have managed to get a few donations of prosthetics to injured veterans. While those who receive the prosthetics are grateful there is a rising undercurrent of fear of Metropolis becoming a war zone. You plan on reassuring everyone that you have the situation under control. You have earned some goodwill but not nearly as much as you would have liked to.

Results: Slight increase in reputation. Can recruit from a very small pool of veterans

[ ] Reach out to Lucy Lane
DC 24
Roll 26
Bare success

It appears that while Lucy Lane resents her older sister she still puts some stock in her words and doesn't dismiss everything out of hand. She isn't foolish enough to refuse your request to meet but she is very hesitant to commit to anything long term and seems skittish and avoidant. Perhaps she is afraid you are going to make unreasonable demands of her based off of her sister's actions? Maybe the what her sister told her about you only seemed to be confirmed when you asked to meet with her so shortly after the article was published? You don't know why but it appears that neither of the Lane's are not without their own biases against you. Still since Lucy has agreed to meet with you and seems to be the more sensible of the two sisters you can correct her misconceptions and get her to see things your way.

Results: Lucy Lane in dialogues with Lex. Lucy Lane is hesitant and skittish however about agreeing to anything and wants to avoid talking if at all possible.

[ ] Destroy Jason Woodrue's reputation
DC 5
Roll 66 +21 Luthor intrigue + 6*0.3 rounded up from Pamela intrigue assist.
Total score= 89
Stupendous success

You learned that Jason Woodrue was the scum of the earth. Originally it hadn't been anything too personal. The man had slandered your employee and for that he had to pay, just the cost of doing business. As such you went and began investigating into the man. You barely had to put in any work to discredit the man. Woodrue was a professor of Botany at Gotham university who had slept with several of his students and embezzled funds from the university. However you wanted to dig deeper. Woodrue was barely hiding these indiscretions yet no one had caught him yet. Even Pamela who disliked the man due to having an ugly relationship with him in the past still seemed unable to not insert bizarre bits of praise about the man repeatedly interjecting "but he is brilliant" and the like into her list of complaints about the man. Something was up and you were going to investigate it. To figure out what was going on you planted a camera in Woodrue's home and office. There you discovered that the man had an odd collection of chemicals and journals stashed away in various hidden compartments. You stole the journals and the chemicals and handed them over to Isley as she would likely be able to interpret them faster than you would. What you discovered shocked you. Pamela found out that Woodrue had stolen some of her work and kept it for himself. Her initial graduate paper was on the ability of plant pheromones to affect the human mind. Dr. Woodrue had looked over the paper and told Pamela that it was a dead end. Pamela had believed in the man and had given up on looking into it any further, only as it turns out Woodrue had lied. Not only could plant pheromones theoretically influence the human mind but Woodrue soon proved that it was practically possible as well. Woodrue created several pheromone "colognes" which he used to manipulate others around him. He recorded hundreds of different trials in which he improved on the initial formula and eventually ended up creating a spray that would make people incredibly suggestible to anything he might say with particularly great results on members of the opposite gender. Woodrue then proceeded to test this on several of his students getting them to do things that they otherwise wouldn't. In the journals Woodrue revealed how he manipulated Isley's mind into believing that he was brilliant and used the pheromone sprays influence to get Pamela to become dependent on him. He manipulated her into a relationship and made her feel as though her efforts were worthless unless she helped him. Pamela broke down upon learning this, although your not sure whether it was from terror despair rage or some combination of the above. Personally you didn't blame her. However you kept reading. It appeared that Woodrue wanted to use Isley's natural genius to expand on his own project which he was struggling to complete on his own. Woodrue was researching a way to integrate human and plant life together but he simply wasn't smart enough to figure out how to do so on his own. However by using the pheromone spray to manipulate others into helping him Woodrue was able to advance the project. When Pamela left Woodrue was furious. His research had stalled and he wasn't sure how to continue going forward. When Lois showed up to interview him Woodrue found a possible solution. He dosed Lois with some of the pheromone spray and implanted suggestions to cause as much trouble for you as possible and to make sure Pamela was "back where she belonged". The man disgusted you. No matter what happened you were going to destroy the man's reputation and career. Pamela came back after you had finished reading Woodrue's journals. She thanked you for all of your help and stated that she was glad you were going to make the man pay. The only question left to ask now is to what degree?

Results: Jason Woodrue is a creep. Woodrue's journals acquired. Pheromone spray acquired. Leak subvote available

[ ] Integrate banking and payment service onto phone
DC 20
Roll 24
Bare success

The banking and payment service managed to be integrated onto the Lex-Phone. However because you couldn't devote your personal attention to the project and your scientists had been under a lot of stress from the multiple assassination attempts the product was subpar. It was buggy and not user friendly but you did get it installed onto the Lex-Phones. Now if only you could get people to use it more often.

Results: Banking and payment service integrated onto phone but not well. Service is still rather unpopular.

[ ] Tighten security
DC 23
Roll 11 + 19 Mercy Martial + 0 Ivo martial assist - 20 League of Shadows interference
Total score=10
Minor failure

Mercy was being worked to the bone. These past few months had been very stressful for all involved. However Mercy suffered the worst from it out of everyone. You assigned Mercy to increase security and at the same time to keep an eye on Ivo. However with the constant attacks on LexCorp and Ivo's argumentative nature as well as his refusal to do anything helpful lead to Mercy being stretched a little too thin. The security has repelled all attacks but your troops are growing angry at Ivo and are being run ragged.

Results: Security not improved. LexCorp security forces run ragged. Mercy and Ivo cooperation score reduced to-0.2. Ra's al Ghul has foiled your actions once.


PR Rep Subvote
Please vote for one of the following options. A PR Rep will automatically intercept diplomacy interactions with hero units outside of your control. However they will also be able to heavily influence the way you and your company are percieved.

[ ] [PR] Veronica Sinclair
This woman has some talent at working a crowd and is willing and able to keep dirty secrets under wraps but her expensive tastes, loose moral code and desire for flashiness showmanship and hedonism may end up costing you in your image with the more morally upstanding individuals and be very expensive to maintain.

[ ] [PR] Fay Moffit
This young ex-stuntwoman has years of special effects training and knows how to work a camera. However she has been involved in numerous scandals, has a bit of a temper and has very little experience in dealing with the more complex parts of PR.

[ ] [PR] Miranda Tate
The most professional of all of your PR rep candidates. Miranda Tate is an upstanding moral person with over a decade of experience in PR work for other tech companies. However something seems ever so slightly fishy about her records although you can't quite pin down what it is that makes you suspicious.

[ ] [PR]Do it Yourself
None of the current candidates are anywhere close to being ready to take on the responsibility of representing LexCorp. You are though. You might have made a few mistakes in your interview with Lois but you can adapt to anything you put your mind to.

Leak Subvote
Please vote for one option. The vote selected will not affect your relationship with Pamela but it will affect how the world perceives you and which actions will be available next turn

[ ] [Leak] Leak nothing but Woodrue's most obvious offenses
The man is utter slime but having blackmail and exclusive information could be useful. Keeping the knowledge of Woodrue's experiments and the pheromone spray means you'd be able to use them to your own ends without anyone else being any wiser.

[ ] [Leak] Leak Woodrue's Journal
Leaking the journal to the world will vindicate you as being in the right and will force Lois Lane to reconsider her stance on you. Admittedly the journal says that Woodrue only enhanced what was already there but portraying Lois as unintentionally mentally compromised might be a boon. However if you go with this option people might be questioning how the journal was obtained and where the pheromone spray is now

[ ] [Leak] Leak everything
The world deserves to know the truth. Play the part of the people's champion. While it likely will not benefit you as much as hoarding the information would one cannot underestimate the power of public perception. It is a bit worrying that every two-bit nutjob with an understanding of chemistry could create similar concoctions.
 
Can we replace our PR rep later by repeating this action if the one we decide on doesn't work out?

Edited for clarity.
 
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I want to release everything with the addendum that we truly emphasize that Louis Lane was influenced.

Perhaps use it to add some minor difficulties to her ever investigating us.... Perhaps we could.... change a bit of info to make it seem like the version he used on Louis will have residual effects.

We do that and she would be suspicious of any dislike or suspicion against us, any investigation she does could be hampered or dismissed outright as she was "under the influence of residual effects", anything she writes against us would be under suspicion, and if we are very lucky she could be outright be prevented from ever investigating due to her being biassed.
 
[X] [Leak] Leak Woodrue's Journal
Leaking the journal to the world will vindicate you as being in the right and will force Lois Lane to reconsider her stance on you. Admittedly the journal says that Woodrue only enhanced what was already there but portraying Lois as unintentionally mentally compromised might be a boon. However if you go with this option people might be questioning how the journal was obtained and where the pheromone spray is now

What use would a cell phone manufacturer have for pheromones? None, whatsoever. Not suspicious at all.

Can't decide on PR, so I'll leave it up to the other voters.
 
I want to release everything with the addendum that we truly emphasize that Louis Lane was influenced.

Perhaps use it to add some minor difficulties to her ever investigating us.... Perhaps we could.... change a bit of info to make it seem like the version he used on Louis will have residual effects.

We do that and she would be suspicious of any dislike or suspicion against us, any investigation she does could be hampered or dismissed outright as she was "under the influence of residual effects", anything she writes against us would be under suspicion, and if we are very lucky she could be outright be prevented from ever investigating due to her being biassed.
Warning, Pamela was under the effects for far longer than Lois was. Trying to paint Lois as "being under residual effects" also heavily effects Pamela's credibility. On top of that people will be conducting analysis on what Woodrue did to others considering he used it on a lot of people (it's how he hid his embezzlement for starters). Having only one person be suffering from lingering effects is kind of skeevy and people will give Lois brain scans to check for lingering influence.
 
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[ ] [PR]Do it Yourself
[ ] [Leak] Leak everything

I would rather try again for a better PR option. Leaking everything seems to be the best bet - we can come up with something better and easier to hide (only we know about it because we invented it) than pheromone sprays for our plans. Plus this would probably give us the biggest boost for cooperation and thus closer to an extra action.
 
Warning, Pamela was under the effects for far longer than Lois was. Trying to paint Lois as "being under residual effects" also heavily effects Pamela's credibility. On top of that people will be conducting analysis on what Woodrue did to others considering he used it on a lot of people (it's how he hid his embezzlement). Having only one person be suffering from lingering effects is kind of skeevy.
Maybe have it show that the specific one he used on Louis was a new version. One meant for longer control.

Pamela wouldnt have been exposed as she left before he had made it but Louis arrived just in time to be a convenient lab rat.

EDIT: If we arrange for him to be caught by the result of a "botched application" that makes people hate the user to a homocidal degree.... Well, i suppose it is just karma.

To bad he won't be able to dispute that claim, but with all the evidence we have it would be perfectly reasonable for him to test a new one and have it go horrifically wrong and end with him dead.

In fact, Pamela might just help with that out of a desire for revenge.
 
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I want to release everything with the addendum that we truly emphasize that Louis Lane was influenced.

Perhaps use it to add some minor difficulties to her ever investigating us.... Perhaps we could.... change a bit of info to make it seem like the version he used on Louis will have residual effects.

We do that and she would be suspicious of any dislike or suspicion against us, any investigation she does could be hampered or dismissed outright as she was "under the influence of residual effects", anything she writes against us would be under suspicion, and if we are very lucky she could be outright be prevented from ever investigating due to her being biassed.

I'm just not sure that would work out as since the full workings are open for everyone, certain actors would immediately try to replicate 'residual effects' which we would have to explain to be credible and very quickly they would test whatever we makeup and find it to be false. I mean if we sat on it until we developed such effects then maybe we could slip that factor in but then there would be a lot of questions as to why we wait to leak for so long and it would be even harder to cover up how long ago the journal was taken considering it would stop by a certain date and Woodrue himself could object and creating more false entries would open up a whole nother can of worms to cover up...

Plus to reveal such a powerful weapon (were we to develop 'residual effects') just to further discredit Lois seems wasteful, as it would have such great potential be a secret weapon.
 
@King crimson could we instead say that he influenced Lois to "find dirt on Luthor" and so she came with the intent of smearing him? The effects had stopped but it soured her impression of Lex And made her biased.
 
@King crimson could we instead say that he influenced Lois to "find dirt on Luthor" and so she came with the intent of smearing him? The effects had stopped but it soured her impression of Lex And made her biased.

We could phrase it in a way that Lois was under the command to "find dirt on Luthor" and she succumbed to it while Isley was under a command to "obey me" and she had the willpower to resist it.
 
Maybe have it show that the specific one he used on Louis was a new version. One meant for longer control.

Pamela wouldnt have been exposed as she left before he had made it but Louis arrived just in time to be a convenient lab rat.
It was not a new version. Woodrue didn't experiment with it too much. The journal explicitly outlines this information and people will replicate this stuff so phony claims will get called out fast.
@King crimson could we instead say that he influenced Lois to "find dirt on Luthor" and so she came with the intent of smearing him? The effects had stopped but it soured her impression of Lex And made her biased.
Yes to an extent. I won't include it in the subvote but it will be an option going forward.

Be very, very careful about including false information. Your PR person can slate the info once its out but including false information will get you called out since the government will most certainly be doing all it can to investigate possible mind control.
 
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[ ] [Leak] Leak everything
The world deserves to know the truth. Play the part of the people's champion. While it likely will not benefit you as much as hoarding the information would one cannot underestimate the power of public perception. It is a bit worrying that every two-bit nutjob with an understanding of chemistry could create similar concoctions.

Right now we need to load up on as much goodwill as possible in the short term so when we fight Superman we can survive a couple of PR disasters, but I'm open to trying to hide parts of it to keep this weapon to ourselves, although I'm not sure it's worth it.
 
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