Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
I think the most annoying thing about Lois Lane is that despite being a good person, she is also astonishingly petty sometimes and often pretends to be dumber or more self righteous than she really is to elicit a reaction. That is a classic media ploy, yes, but knowing it is not genuine does not make it any less irritating.

Hiring her sister to be just as petty and elicit a reaction seemed like a drastic step, but I am glad we did it for many reasons.

That said, I admit while I am grateful in a sense for Wayne Enterprises keeping us on our toes and putting actions and progress to compete, hearing they've one-upped us is always infuriating.
 
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trying to play the supervillan on the DC universe is a fools gamble at best.
Depends on the supervillain in question (someone like Mr. Zsasz whose goal is just "kill some people" generally gets what he wants to some degree).

I think it's more accurate to say that in comics any position attempting to make concrete changes on the world is a fools gambit at best. I will say that if the thread wanted to play a more wild and hammy supervillain they could have done so. It would've cost them resources and closed off options that are now open to them but going full supervillain in an attempt to kill Superman is a viable strategy to win as a primary component of the quest is that you can change things and alter the status quo.
No trails if we have a blacksite totally locked. One thing is the experiments on intergang goon that no one would miss and where Lex have full control, other thing is having these experiments on Beealia or Valtevia where we have to rely on vertigo and Bee's discretion, since these 2 attract superhero intervention like the Batsignal . Lex thrive on its secrecy and opsec, outsourcing our crimes aginst humanity installations to a tird party is a mistake.
You cannot lock down any blacksite 100%. Any attempt to do so will fail due to precognitives, postcognitives, psychics, time travelers, magic users, metahumans, gods and a whole host of other things that cannot be defended against conventionally. In fact there's even a point of diminishing returns where if you through enough defenses to protect it from a certain angle of attack you're wasting resources and even potentially gaining interest from powerful entities that would otherwise ignore it.
I don't know if King would make us take another action to fit a similar but bigger costume to Cass a year from now or anything, though.
Costume size-up would be free, much like how I wouldn't force you to get a new costume if a character lost an arm or something along those lines. It's a basic quality of life thing that I don't want to make a whole action out of and would occur automatically but could be made into a personal action.
Lex have "YES" amout of money we but so if we wana make a child size warframe suit for cass we can the action cost is more a problem than the resources
There are limits to Lex's money. He couldn't pay off the debt of everyone in the United States or pay people to make a 50 foot solid gold statue of him in every state without impacting his lifestyle in some way. I don't track money very much in depth but there are still limits to what Lex can do with his money if not ones that come up much.
 
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I dont want to act dumb, i came to a Lex luthor quest to see if he can win for once. Be a mustache twirling villain asking to be exposed, i want to play a a evil *genius* to win in a word that seated you up to fail.

Oh im sorry did i advocate for us to act like the Joker? I must have missed that, dont go putting words in my mouth

Us allying with Queen Bee does not magically gurrantee that we are going to be exposed. You yourself have agreed that the she is extremly compatabile with us personality and goals wise, wouldnt that imply that she carries on her supervillany like we do?

You say we shouldnt outsource human experimentation to a third party, bit fucking late for that as we have already done that with Vertigo, who is alot less careful then Queen Bee.
 
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You cannot lock down any blacksite 100%. Any attempt to do so will fail due to precognitives, postcognitives, psychics, time travelers, magic users, metahumans, gods and a whole host of other things that cannot be defended against conventionally. In fact there's even a point of diminishing returns where if you through enough defenses to protect it from a certain angle of attack you're wasting resources and even potentially gaining interest from powerful entities that would otherwise ignore it.

Yeah, my focus is aginst pepole that might want to destroy our reputation, IE Lois and Bruce.
If something have enough magical power to price Lex corp wards its dont realy care to ruin our reputation.
My problem with Bee is if she goes down she will damage our reputation.

Oh im sorry did i advocate for us to act like the Joker? I must have missed that, dont go putting words in my mouth

Us allying with Queen Bee does not magically gurrantee that we are going to be exposed. You yourself have agreed that the she is extremly compatabile with us personality and goals wise, wouldnt that imply that she carries on her supervillany like we do?

You say we shouldnt outsource human experimentation to a third party, bit fucking late for that as we have already done that with Vertigo, who is alot less careful then Queen Bee.
Now this is my turn to wirthe "sigh"
The problem with Bee is that shee straght up mind control pepole, it she is expose is a hole set of problems from international scrutiny to the government trying to watch us to "see if we are not compromised"
Vertigo would be bad but would not be as bad.
 
Yeah, my focus is aginst pepole that might want to destroy our reputation, IE Lois and Bruce.
If something have enough magical power to price Lex corp wards its dont realy care to ruin our reputation.
My problem with Bee is if she goes down she will damage our reputation.


Now this is my turn to wirthe "sigh"
The problem with Bee is that shee straght up mind control pepole, it she is expose is a hole set of problems from international scrutiny to the government trying to watch us to "see if we are not compromised"
Vertigo would be bad but would not be as bad.
If, if, if. If she is exposed we go down, if we get exposed we go down. Arguably her op sec is better than ours considering she is mind controlling her flunkies. Thats more gurantee than we have over our flunkies considering we have not spammed the pheremones.

If the shenanigans that we have already gotten up to get exposed, the murders, kidnapping, human experiementation, torture etc we are screwed regardless.

Queen Bee is not magically guranteed to be exposed to the general public just as we arnt. From what we have seen of her so far she acts just like we do, just more liberal with the mind control.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Negation on Oct 2, 2021 at 11:10 PM, finished with 108 posts and 10 votes.
 
So here's a random thought I had, if Lex were to become President, not that we necessarily want him to, who would we choose to fill the various positions?

The ones I can think of are keep Pamela as Administrator of the EPA, Lucy as Attorney General, Marie as Press Secretary, Katherine as Secretary of Defense, Mercy as Director of the Secret Service and Frost as Secretary of the Treasury

Thoughts?
 
So here's a random thought I had, if Lex were to become President, not that we necessarily want him to, who would we choose to fill the various positions?

The ones I can think of are keep Pamela as Administrator of the EPA, Lucy as Attorney General, Marie as Press Secretary, Katherine as Secretary of Defense, Mercy as Director of the Secret Service and Frost as Secretary of the Treasury

Thoughts?
Keep Eiling as Secretary of State or make him Chairman of the Joint Chief's of Staff maybe?
 
So here's a random thought I had, if Lex were to become President, not that we necessarily want him to, who would we choose to fill the various positions?

The ones I can think of are keep Pamela as Administrator of the EPA, Lucy as Attorney General, Marie as Press Secretary, Katherine as Secretary of Defense, Mercy as Director of the Secret Service and Frost as Secretary of the Treasury

Thoughts?
Keep in mind that every position held here couldn't hold a second job that would potentially conflict with their current one. Functionally that means every person you have filling a position you cannot be officially working at LexCorp.

As such the ideal candidates are people who are useful, pro-LexCorp and whom you don't need to keep closely tied to LexCorp in order to have things work.

Edit: in terms of names and met characters General Richter is positively disposed to Lex and seems competent enough and General Hardcastle's a good filler choice if you want loyalty if not necessarily competence. Veronica Cale also could fill a few roles comfortably and competently.
 
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Keep Eiling as Secretary of State or make him Chairman of the Joint Chief's of Staff maybe?
Chairman of the Joint Chief's of Staff could work

I say that over Secretary of State because from what I understand that job is actually to be the foreign representative of the US which isn't exactly the best position for him even if I don't know who I would have replace him

That also makes me think that by this point we'd probably know enough high ranking military personnel that we could give positions away to them as well
Keep in mind that every position held here couldn't hold a second job that would potentially conflict with their current one. Functionally that means every person you have filling a position you cannot be officially working at LexCorp.

As such the ideal candidates are people who are useful, pro-LexCorp and whom you don't need to keep closely tied to LexCorp in order to have things work.
True, I'm mostly assuming that in this theoretical situation Cassandra is old enough and skilled enough to run LexCorp and that she'd have some people she'd want to bring in
 
Some Stuff On Necromancy
Some Stuff On Necromancy
So I figured people would enjoy an exploration of various "schools" of magic. I'm kind of in the mood for discussing Necromancy and I figured people would get a kick out of hearing about how some magic generally works/is classified. It's an interesting subject and I'll almost certainly do another one on a different "school" of magic. Also keep in mind that while I am using broad sweeping terms that there is a good amount of variance in individual practitioners throughout history and there are no concrete rules within each group.

Defining terms
So what is necromancy? The actual term is fairly simple but a lot more restricted in its use than you might think. Necromancy is simply put any magic that interacts with already dead entities. As such things like vampiric conversion, zombie conversion through a bite and a spell designed to render someone dead are not necromancy as they are magic meant to interact with a living being, either to render them dead or undead. Necromancy actually has more in common with divination and communing with spirits than it does with black magic, diabolism or animation. There are admittedly a few well known applications of necromantic magic that involve some degree of animation but those tend to be more of an offshoot of the main study of the discipline.

In other words if the magic in any way brings back or communes with something that is considered dead than it is necromancy and everything beyond that is an application of another type of magic in conjunction with necromancy.

Some History
At the same time necromancy has a bad rap because of its own historical uses. Whilst pure necromancy is in no way shape or form inherently bad or malicious, historically it's tied to a lot of nasty things. Necromancy is one of the oldest forms of magic in existence, having its roots in the shamanistic magic users of hunter-gatherer societies calling upon their ancestors for guidance. With the development of more complex societies, necromancy quickly evolved into a few different paths. The ancient Babylonians often merged necromancy with with diabolism. This particular blend often turned disastrous as the necromancer in question often attempted to call or bind something incredibly powerful that was better off dead and would wreak havoc if not tightly controlled. The blending of the two disciplines based on calling inhuman things quickly earned necromancy a reputation for resulting in death and monsters which in turn started to lead to its darker reputation and necromancy as a whole being looked upon as a vile horrible thing for only the most ambitious and amoral to attempt.

Ancient Egyptian necromancy often delved more into interactions with the soul. Due to their own attempts to both categorize and figure out the components of the soul, Ancient Egyptian necromancy had a lot more applications beyond calling things and reanimating them. By using magic to separate pieces of the soul and then use them to accomplish certain tasks. Of particular note the use of the components of the soul known as Shut and/or Sekhem were often used to create reanimated guardians driven by dead spirits. However even in ancient Egyptian magical tradition necromancy eventually grew a dangerous connotation. The wizard who would go on to be known as Felix Faust figured out how to shatter his soul into infinitesimally small pieces and how the soul could then slowly grow new areas to make up what was lost given enough time. Felix Faust then used the pieces of his soul to effectively cheat dozens of magical entities, gods and more. However the shattering of the soul as Felix did it has side-effects and he quickly grew to become more amoral and destructive than he was before and eventually served as a lesson to Ancient Egyptian magic users not to mess with the purity of the soul and its components.

The Ancient Greeks went with a more ritual focused push towards necromancy and focused on summoning specific ghosts in order to answer questions they would know based off of what had happened to them in life. The ritual focused necromancy did work and it was often safer than Babylonian necromancy which haphazardly attempted to contract and bind the dead but it did often anger Hades and overtime necromancy gained a bit of a disturbing reputation as some necromancers would go as far as to ritualistically consume corpses in order to better commune with the spirit of the deceased.

The Romans slowly melded all three of the traditions but initially had a primarily Greek leaning on necromancy with slight touches of the Egyptian and Babylonian practices melded in as well. As time went on however necromancy once more blended together with diabolism and resulted in an admittedly less destructive mess but it was oftentimes just as ugly and distrusted.

With the rise of Christianity necromancy became a lot more despised and looked down on as disturbing and wrong as the Judeo-Christian religions often considered it immoral and punishable by death, the advent of it rising in Rome where necromancy had been increasingly mixed with diabolism only lead to even more hatred, fear and suspicion towards the practice. As Christianity spread so too spread the implication that necromancy was evil.

By the advent of the middle ages necromancy had become almost indistinguishable from diabolism in most of the world and the advent of the summoning circle, to contain the dead, had been incorporated into the magic. On top of that Arabic magic users began to make necromancy a lot more formulaic and took into account the position of celestial objects. In addition during the middle ages necromancy helped spur on investigation and development into possession and exorcism both of which are independent disciplines who have some overlap with necromancy. The middle ages so the most evolution in making use of necromancy to create various kinds of undead.

Necromancy eventually began to separate from diabolism in the renaissance and similarly began to transition more to spells than rituals as practitioners often found that safer and more deniable. As such a lot of manuals on necromancy began to float around but there was a lot of misinformation and so it was often looked down on with derision. Notably Leonardo Da Vinci, the ancestor of the Zatara line of magic users, famously disdained necromancy and called it the most foolish of all human ideals.

Necromancy began to spread and diversify. Tying into things like Voodoo, Celtic Druidism, attempts to unify Germanic magical tradition, Spanish recreations of old Arabic rituals and much, much more. Generally Europe returned to older roots and mixed in and evolved necromancy based off of other magic as opposed to anything unique to the discipline in and of itself, whilst in the America's necromancy was often developed in wildly new, unconnected ways.

Other types of Necromancy
Whilst the western tradition of necromancy is the most easily tracked and the most spread out across the world, there are other traditions out there. Most Eastern types of necromancy are centered around the Buddhist conception of the afterlife and as such are a fair bit more strict and specialized than the Western counterpart. That being said there are differences amongst various countries as each one worked with necromancy slightly differently.

Aliens have developed their own forms of necromancy fully independent of earth and as such have their own traditions and history.

Necromancy in the Modern day
Necromancy in the modern day remains somewhat contentious and its traditions like almost all magic are heavily, heavily fragmented. It does not have all that great of a reputation but it isn't something people get killed on sight for anymore.

Papa Midnite is the most powerful Voodoo based necromancer living on earth and he currently resides in New York City. Circe is well aware of Ancient Greek necromancy and her being able to teach it to others is catalogued in the Odyssey. Eldon Peck is a powerful necromancer on the west coast and allows necromancers safe harbor in his territories though he isn't really known for his use of necromancy. Felix Faust is arguably the greatest Ancient Egyptian magic user in living memory but he's also considered the most dangerous and untrustworthy of them all as well. John Constantine is the most well known necromancer with an expertise in British and Spanish techniques as well as a few ancient Babylonian ones and he is despised amongst the greater magical community.

All in all most necromancers are not considered to be good news. This is through no fault of necromancy itself but because a lot of necromancy was forbidden knowledge and got tied up with diabolism fairly regularly, most people who invested the time into learning necromancy tend to be those willing to disregard boundaries and limits for knowledge and power and thus tend to not be the best of people.

General functions of Necromancy
Necromancy is generally used in a few different ways. Below are some of the uses and some of the connections to other branches of magic they might have.
  • Divination via the summoning of a spirit for answers
  • Contracting with a spirit of the dead for more power and skill
  • Having the spirits of the dead act as the arbiters of a binding deal (crosses over with enchantment)
  • Creation of undead minions (crosses over with animation and sometimes with enchantment)
  • Creation of minions animated by the undead (crosses over with animation and with enchantment)
  • Allowing the spirit of the dead to possess an individual
  • Creating ghosts that will not leave and can interact with anyone as they please
  • Exorcism of dead spirits (crosses over with exorcism)
  • Soul splitting
  • Soul regeneration
  • Use of dead spirits to see far away (crosses over with divination)
 
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An incomplete list of the types/schools of magic
An incomplete list of the types/schools of magic
Keep in mind that these schools are not the be all end all of classification, are incomplete, are oversimplified and that magic often fits into multiple schools at once. This sort of classification really only is meant to help you identify what type of magic something is through function.
  • Necromancy: Magic dealing with the dead
  • Blood magic: Magic centered on blood and familial ties
  • Animation: Magic centered around getting things to move
  • Divination: Magic focused on gaining information through magical means
  • Enchantment: Magic centered around the application and removal of properties to an object
  • Exorcism: Magic centered around the removal of souls
  • Transmutation: Magic centered on the transformation of substances
  • Curses/Black Magic: Magic centered on the destruction of an object
  • Restoration/White Magic: Magic centered on the preservation of an object
  • Invocation: Magic used to draw upon the power of another entity
  • Conjuration: Magic centered around the creation of things
  • Order Magic: Magic based on the creation of ordered stable predictable systems
  • Chaos Magic: Magic based on the creation of chaos and denial of systems
  • Diabolism: Magic centered around working with demons
  • Transposition: Magic centered around moving things through the use of magic
  • Thaumaturgy: Magic centered on the use of magic
 
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There are limits to Lex's money. He couldn't pay off the debt of everyone in the United States or pay people to make a 50 foot solid gold statue of him in every state...
A fifty-foot solid gold statue (assuming it didn't slump and collapse under its own weight, I don't actually know)...

Well. That's about 8.1 times Lex's height if he really is 6'2" tall. 531 times Lex's volume. Average ideal body weight for a man Lex's height is about 190 pounds. Human bodies float in water but not by much, so I'm going to approximate his density as around 1 kg/L. Rounding everything to two decimal places, gold is 19 times as dense as Lex Luthor, and the statue is about 530 times bigger, so it weighs almost exactly ten thousand times as much: 1900000 pounds or 950 tons.

950 tons times fifty states is 950 is 47,500 tons of gold- the cost of shaping the gold into statues is trivial compared to the cost of the gold itself. As of right now in real life, gold costs 56.89 dollars per gram. At 454 grams per avordupois pound, that's about 25,800 dollars per pound, or about 51,600,000 dollars per (English-system) ton. Multiply that by the number of tons of gold, and that comes to about 2.57 trillion dollars. Which, yes, is likely to be well outside Lex's price range for any remotely reasonable expenditure.

On the other hand, he could assuredly afford fifty giant gold-plated statues, or one solid gold statue, in the desired size range, even if either one of those would be an absurd vanity project. And the latter might be crippling if Lex is merely rich in the sense that, say, Jeff Bezos is rich in real life.
 
General functions of Necromancy
Necromancy is generally used in a few different ways. Below are some of the uses and some of the connections to other branches of magic they might have.
  • Divination via the summoning of a spirit for answers
  • Contracting with a spirit of the dead for more power and skill
  • Having the spirits of the dead act as the arbiters of a binding deal (crosses over with enchantment)
  • Creation of undead minions (crosses over with animation and sometimes with enchantment)
  • Creation of minions animated by the undead (crosses over with animation and with enchantment)
  • Allowing the spirit of the dead to possess an individual
  • Creating ghosts that will not leave and can interact with anyone as they please
  • Exorcism of dead spirits (crosses over with exorcism)
  • Soul splitting
  • Soul regeneration
  • Use of dead spirits to see far away (crosses over with divination)
Wow. A lot of these are crap. About the only things useful are:-
  • Having the spirits of the dead act as the arbiters of a binding deal (crosses over with enchantment)
This may work for the execution of Last Will and Testaments to actually make them binding without the usual shinnanigans in disputed Wills. Though Divine magic can still interfere I assume?
  • Exorcism of dead spirits (crosses over with exorcism)
Always good to know to get rid of pests without calling upon Gods to hold our hand. Better PR to boot.
  • Soul regeneration
Soul splitting is what turned Felix Faust into the failure he is today, let's not follow in his footsteps and focus on healing. We will get less shit from doing this.
 
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Scarecrow on the other hand is oddly short for a character noted for being tall and spindly. Whatever his final height is it should be greater than the Joker's for sure
He may be using elements of his clothing to appear taller, like Anarky, perhaps.

The Flash and Reverse Flash should probably have the same height. Think shaving an inch off of the Flash's height is the ideal solution
I disagree (if we are talking about Eboard RF here). It can be a plot point in more ways than one:
1) Eobard's insecurity that for all the facemorphing techniques of the future, or his own vibration techniques, he can't look ideally the same as Barry due to height difference.
2) If Eobard steals Barry's identity, a person that knows him well may notice him being shorter (if he forgets heels).
3) Some place for the Flash's (Barry or Wally) quips regarding Zoom being "a shortie" due to that one inch difference.
 
So you can technically exorcise someone out of their own body? Also, can you exorcise AI from a computer they are controlling remotely, assuming AI lived long enough to develop a soul, or is it too conceptual?
Yes you can exorcise someone out of their own body. Any thing that rips out a soul from a body without directly killing the body technically does that. It's a thing that is done.

As for exorcising an AI from remotely controlling someone it is possible but it's also highly theoretical and most magic users wouldn't be capable of doing it.
He may be using elements of his clothing to appear taller, like Anarky, perhaps.


I disagree (if we are talking about Eboard RF here). It can be a plot point in more ways than one:
1) Eobard's insecurity that for all the facemorphing techniques of the future, or his own vibration techniques, he can't look ideally the same as Barry due to height difference.
2) If Eobard steals Barry's identity, a person that knows him well may notice him being shorter (if he forgets heels).
3) Some place for the Flash's (Barry or Wally) quips regarding Zoom being "a shortie" due to that one inch difference.
I mean it's possible for Scarecrow to be using elements of his clothing to look taller like Anarky, but it's very specifically Jonathan Crane who is noted to be tall and spindly (so as to make him look like the character Ichabod Crane from literature to act as a point of mockery). As such it's weird to have a figure noted for being tall not actually be that tall it all. Mr. Freeze is often drawn than Batman and that discrepancy can be laid at the feet of his costuming but when Scarecrow's civillian identity is noted as being unusually tall it becomes weird for him to be shorter than multiple characters not particularly noted for being tall.

I agree that it's not necessary for Eobard to be the same height as the Flash in every story he appears in. However considering that Eobard at one point apparently both "knew everything about the Flash" and "was convinced he was Barry Allen" when he went back in time, it just feels a little odd to me personally to have him suddenly forget what height the Flash is supposed to be whilst believing himself to be the Flash. I have no issues with Eobard pre-Barryfying (undergoing medical procedures to look like Barry Allen) being of a different height than the Flash. However because of the decisions I made regarding time, it doesn't make sense for a Eobard Thawne to be shorter than Barry Allen because he'd have never been able to retcon getting surgery to look like Barry Allen. Whilst I could see him getting surgery to make himself look different from Barry, I don't see any reason for him to get surgery to make himself shorter again. It's not necessarily universal wonkiness so much as it is some wonkiness for the quest universe (like how Mercy being as tall as Wonder Woman isn't weird if she's an Amazon but gets a bit odd once you remove that context).

Edit: Also general note on terminology. I personally try to only refer to Eobard Thawne as the Reverse Flash or Professor Zoom whilst Hunter Zolomon is just Zoom (without being a professor). That hopefully can clarify a bit for readers (not you specifically) who I'm referring to when I talk about one of them.
 
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Whilst I could see him getting surgery to make himself look different from Barry
IIRC he didn't need to use surgery for that. He removed the results of his facemorphing in TROBA somehow via vibrating. He used a Barry-likeness in multiple appearances during Silver/Bronze Age (which happen later in his personal timeline), but those happened after his first couple of battles vs Barry, so it seems Eobard has access to technologies/powers to easily and quickly change his face whenever he wants. I GUESS he could also have some tech to change his height, although it's something not so easily explainable as "surgery", I think? Adding an extra layer of skin and muscle to his legs, or what? Interesting thought, might interfere with running, but can be explained via future tech.
Heck, Eobard having health problems due to surgery to make himself higher is a plot that writes itself!

Edit: Also general note on terminology. I personally try to only refer to Eobard Thawne as the Reverse Flash or Professor Zoom whilst Hunter Zolomon is just Zoom (without being a professor). That hopefully can clarify a bit for readers (not you specifically) who I'm referring to when I talk about one of them.
I am using "Zoom" because I'm annoyed when people try to "correct" others that "It's not Zoom, it's the Reverse-Flash!" (especially on Youtube), when Eobard has been (usually) just shortened to "Zoom" for a long time before Hunter's introduction (as, specifically, "the second Zoom"). Like, having read all of Eobard's Earth-1 / New Earth appearances, I am a bit flabbergasted whenever someone tries to ignore the characters'/legacy's whole history.
 
I GUESS he could also have some tech to change his height, although it's something not so easily explainable as "surgery", I think? Adding an extra layer of skin and muscle to his legs, or what? Interesting thought, might interfere with running, but can be explained via future tech.
Heck, Eobard having health problems due to surgery to make himself higher is a plot that writes itself!
Actually if I remember correctly there already are "height extension surgeries" that basically cut open the leg and insert a metal brace to make someone's leg a little longer and thus the person a little taller IRL. It's not something I'd ever recommend to people and I imagine it does cause some health complication but it is a technology that is present IRL and so I can only imagine that Eobard's time had something even better.

That being said I 100% agree that Eobard having health complications because of his attempt to look like Barry (which then likely prompts him to blame Barry for said problems) is an interesting story that writes itself.
I am using "Zoom" because I'm annoyed when people try to "correct" others that "It's not Zoom, it's the Reverse-Flash!" (especially on Youtube), when Eobard has been (usually) just shortened to "Zoom" for a long time before Hunter's introduction (as, specifically, "the second Zoom"). Like, having read all of Eobard's Earth-1 / New Earth appearances, I am a bit flabbergasted whenever someone tries to ignore the characters'/legacy's whole history.
I have no issues with people using the term so long as its made clear who they are referring to. I personally like to use Professor Zoom and Zoom to differentiate between Eobard Thawne and Hunter Zolomon because I personally think that's a solid way of differentiating the two characters. In stories characters might refer to Professor Zoom as Zoom and I have no issue with that in the same way where a lot of people in story might call Batman "Bats". I make the distinction of referral only when I as the out of universe author am personally talking about the character and the distinction is for clarities sake. If you want to call Eobard Thawne Zoom, I have no issue with that so long as you clarify what you are talking about.

Both Eobard and Zolomon are arguably the "Reverse Flash" and "Zoom" but in conversations about the character I make the artificial distinction that Eobard is "Reverse Flash" and "Professor Zoom" whilst Hunter Zolomon is just "Zoom" in order to make it more immediately apparent who I'm talking about. I do something similar with Mongul and his identical son Mongul where ones called Mongul and the other is called Mongul 2 or Mongul Jr. in order to make it more clear which character I'm referring to even though the distinction is not present with in universe names.
 
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I missed some stuff I want to respond to.
Wow. A lot of these are crap. About the only things useful are:-
  • Having the spirits of the dead act as the arbiters of a binding deal (crosses over with enchantment)
This may work for the execution of Last Will and Testaments to actually make them binding without the usual shinnanigans in disputed Wills. Though Divine magic can still interfere I assume?
  • Exorcism of dead spirits (crosses over with exorcism)
Always good to know to get rid of pests without calling upon Gods to hold our hand. Better PR to boot.
  • Soul regeneration
Soul splitting is what turned Felix Faust into the failure he is today, let's not follow in his footsteps and focus on healing. We will get less shit from doing this.
I disagree with the assertion that the general body of work of Necromancy is "crap" or useless.

Divination via summoning the dead not only is good for information gathering in general but it's also extermely useful for investigative purposes as it lets you effectively solve a ton of murder cases very easily. In fact in any situation in which ghosts can be used to pin evidence on someone in a court of law, someone can immediately pin Lex for the murder of Lionel Luthor and it's difficult to deny that. That's already one potentially useful application of this versatile ability.

Contracting with a dead spirit for more power and skill can be useful if you want it to. Being able to give someone the artistic skills of Michelangelo is possible for this type of application of necromancy. There are uses for it especially once you consider you can stack contracts.

Creation of undead minions isn't something to be scoffed at as something totally useless. Imagine if someone could create an army of 100 Solomon Grundy's that could be directed? There's a lot that can be done with undying minions that follow your every command. Similarly minions animated by the undead is effectively the creation of a magical automaton. An easy to create obedient customizable workforce isn't something most people would consider useless.

Possession and the creation of ghosts enables mind control and a form of limited and functional immortality. For example imagine if Lex kept a necromancer on payroll so that every time he dies the necromancer revives him as a ghost and enables him to possess a new body to effectively keep on living. There are obviously snags and complications and reasons why it could go wrong but there are also uses that could encourage people to want to explore this side of necromancy.

Soul splitting has the immediately useful benefit of enabling you to turn the resource of a single soul into what is effectively multiple souls (it doesn't work this way universally) but you can use it to effectively multiple resources at your disposal.

I can list out more benefits and potential uses for necromancy that aren't inherently evil or doomed to failure and are in some way effective and useful but I think my point has been made, magic is almost always useful in some sense and there's no magic that's just straight up bad (diabolism is the closest it gets to straight up bad magic and even it can be used positively by good people and is useful in certain situations).

As for using the dead as arbiters of binding deals, lots of sufficiently powerful magic can interfere, it's not limited to gods in any way shape or form.
Now I want a diabolist/necromancer quest run by KC…
DC Diabolist is a snappy title for a quest. I'm happy to co-author such a quest but I won't be making it on my own any time soon. I'll probably be posting an informational post about diabolism some time this month though.
 
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