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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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Arkeus said:
I've been trying to find a reference to it, but where did you see her creating her own white hart vest?
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yrsillar said:
By the time the two of you had finished dissecting the day's spiritual cultivation lesson and cultivating Su Ling had disappeared again, leaving nothing behind but some recently cleaned processing tools, and a silver furred rabbit hide being stretched and dried on makeshift rack.
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Voila.
 
Asael said:
I'd pay to see that.
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Sir Bearington the Third simply wished to take Ling Qi away for a quiet discussion about spirit rights as she's cruelly mistreating a poor hapless baby spirit by depriving it of suitable temperature and likely lacks understanding of proper nutrition. That he did so during her tea appointment with Cai Renxiang was unfortunate, but his schedule was simply too tight for any other time. Bai Meizhen, who was lurking nearby to make sure Renxiang wasn't trying to bribe Qi away from her, interpreted his actions as a kidnapping attempt, possibly under the direction of Cai Renxiang herself. Sun Liling, of course, saw the opportunity for a good brawl and jumped in.
 
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Arkeus said:
Yup, both Li Suyin and Su Ling are probably going for the production track, which is great if they can take advantage of the argent vent to go faster. Makes AM all the better for them, too.
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I've understood Su Ling being a production student, but now that I think about it, why're we so certain that Li Suyin's on track to be a production student? I doubt healing arts are production' in the same way I'd doubt being able to throw a fireball is 'production'. Making pills and such would be production, but either she lied to us and created the very pills she gave us, or she doesn't actually know how to mix medicines and likely doesn't have any other production skills besides speed copying her own notes and books.

If anything, her current obsession with getting stronger could be seen as her getting off track from being a production student. o3o;

Edit: the fact that she's allowed her formations studies to stagnate suggests as much.
 
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FixerUpper said:
I've understood Su Ling being a production student, but now that I think about it, why're we so certain that Li Suyin's on track to be a production student? I doubt healing arts are production' in the same way I'd doubt being able to throw a fireball is 'production'. Making pills and such would be production, but either she lied to us and created the very pills she gave us, or she doesn't actually know how to mix medicines and likely doesn't have any other production skills besides speed copying her own notes and books.

If anything, her current obsession with getting stronger could be seen as her getting off track from being a production student. o3o;
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Healing is probably seen as production simply because it's not being enough for its own track, and we know healing is high-int requirements. Likewise, she has shown certain skills toward formation without omake ridiculousness, so her going formation makes sense too.

I basically want to steal Huang Da's pass for her, but that's going to be a pain and a a half. Xuan's would be hard if I am right about him being one of the late yellow ones.
 
FixerUpper said:
Edit: the fact that she's allowed her formations studies to stagnate suggests as much.
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I think Li Suyin has a different definition of 'stagnate' than us, considering she was formation 3 and probably began at the same time as we did, and didn't have Omake power. Also, this is what she said:
"Oh!" Li Suyin replied, nodding quickly. "Of course, I will be happy to help you with anything you need Ling Qi," she said brightly. Ling Qi silently congratulated herself, Suyin hadn't looked so happy in weeks. "I mean… I hope I can help you… I well, I have not had time to study much of late," and just like that her friend had started to come back down again.
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I think it's less "I want to be combat focused" and more "I realise even if I don't want to do combat I need a minimum of skill".
 
veekie said:
Okay then, if we don't figure out the kiln yet, we get Su Ling to help next time?
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Pretty sure people are going to want to keep baby turtle as secret as possible, but if not, I'm for this option as Su Ling has shown herself to be a dab hand at creating defenses and that's one of my major concerns. I'd be willing to vote to pay her for kiln + show us how to set up some solid defenses.

Arkeus said:
Healing is probably seen as production simply because it's not being enough for its own track, and we know healing is high-int requirements. Likewise, she has shown certain skills toward formation without omake ridiculousness, so her going formation makes sense too.

I basically want to steal Huang Da's pass for her, but that's going to be a pain and a a half. Xuan's would be hard if I am right about him being one of the late yellow ones.
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We don't really know enough about production to judge, but a healing art that works nigh-instantly being a production skill seems like a dangerous assumption because we have to assume that people are somehow grading the production students by some actual metric. I'm assuming they will be assigned a final project and have to show them off to the Elders during the Inner Sect selection exam. One of the unstated goals will be to keep their project safe. A healer who can simply bypass that part of the exam by internalizing a technique... I doubt it, I really do. Everything we know about production so far indicates that it's time-and-labor intensive and involves gathering materials + preparing materials + and finally making something out of those materials. An art that can skip all that and just be cultivated each week and turned in as being good enough... I'm skeptical.

Arkeus said:
I think Li Suyin has a different definition of 'stagnate' than us, considering she was formation 3 and probably began at the same time as we did, and didn't have Omake power. Also, this is what she said:
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I doubt it given how getting better at a skill works. Li Suyin spent months beforehand preparing for the Sect, and if I were a nerd (wait, I am a nerd) the thing I'd study up on wouldn't be cultivation and fighting techniques, but rather things that could easily be studied, like formations. For her to be making as much progress as we she'd have to have received an extra... I recall off the top of my head 12 points were sunk into formations from omakes so, at least that much.

Arkeus said:
I think it's less "I want to be combat focused" and more "I realise even if I don't want to do combat I need a minimum of skill".
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Remember, she has a lot fewer actions than we do to invest meaning that she has to pick and choose. Getting stronger might not mean 'I want to beat people up with my bare hands,' but it is digging into her production training time, if indeed she is a production student at all.
 
FixerUpper said:
We don't really know enough about production to judge, but a healing art that works nigh-instantly being a production skill seems like a dangerous assumption because we have to assume that people are somehow grading the production students by some actual metric. I'm assuming they will be assigned a final project and have to show them off to the Elders during the Inner Sect selection exam. One of the unstated goals will be to keep their project safe. A healer who can simply bypass that part of the exam by internalizing a technique... I doubt it, I really do. Everything we know about production so far indicates that it's time-and-labor intensive and involves gathering materials + preparing materials + and finally making something out of those materials. An art that can skip all that and just be cultivated each week and turned in as being good enough... I'm skeptical.
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Healing has been implied to not just be 'another art'. It's been said to need high int and probably a lot of trials and errors, to the point that getting good healers can bankrupt clans.
I doubt it given how getting better at a skill works. Li Suyin spent months beforehand preparing for the Sect, and if I were a nerd (wait, I am a nerd) the thing I'd study up on wouldn't be cultivation and fighting techniques, but rather things that could easily be studied, like formations. For her to be making as much progress as we she'd have to have received an extra... I recall off the top of my head 12 points were sunk into formations from omakes so, at least that much.

Remember, she has a lot fewer actions than we do to invest meaning that she has to pick and choose. Getting stronger might not mean 'I want to beat people up with my bare hands,' but it is digging into her production training time, if indeed she is a production student at all.
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She only has 1 less action than us though? That's not "a lot less".

Also, maybe I am wrong, but I remember something about formation being locked behind being a cultivator.
 
Arkeus said:
Also, maybe I am wrong, but I remember something about formation being locked behind being a cultivator.
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Actually setting up a workable formation probably requires qi and thus, being a cultivator. Studying the 3,000+ characters to create or read formations is probably not since Ling Qi has some regret over not putting more time in on her literacy lessons in Elder Su's class.
 
Katreus said:
Actually setting up a workable formation probably requires qi and thus, being a cultivator. Studying the 3,000+ characters to create or read formations is probably not since Ling Qi has some regret over not putting more time in on her literacy lessons in Elder Su's class.
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OTOH, it has been noted multiple times that the only reason we are picking up Mastery dots with weapons or even learning something as complicated as Formations in mere weeks is because of Qi.
 
Katreus said:
Actually setting up a workable formation probably requires qi and thus, being a cultivator. Studying the 3,000+ characters to create or read formations is probably not since Ling Qi has some regret over not putting more time in on her literacy lessons in Elder Su's class.
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It's kind of hard to study something when you can't actually practice with it, and there is also the whole 'you learn everything faster the higher your cultivating base is'. It's possible you are right, but I'll wager that even if she had some knowledge on formations beforehand she learned most of it in class.
 
Arkeus said:
Healing has been implied to not just be 'another art'. It's been implied to need high int and probably a lot of trials and errors, to the point that getting good healers can bankrupt clans.
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure that being good at healing requires that you be good at medicine because the relevant attribute and skill would be Intelligence+Medicine. Medicine is largely suggested to be the pill-making skill (Elder Su being head of the Medicine department, the medicine department preparing the marrow bear elixir, etc.). Given that Li Suyin was willing to take on harvesting missions and supposedly made some copies of a herbal book to sell, I am increasingly certain she's actually a pill-maker and just... didn't want to tell us for some reason?

Healers are on the fast track to get into the Sect not because they're good at healing but because they can double up on medicine training just like we are getting really good at manipulation through FVM.

She's still going to have to prep a pill project though.

And if she can't prepare pills, well, my objections to healing being enough to get you into the Inner Sect as a production student arise once more.

Arkeus said:
She only has 1 less action than us though? That's not "a lot less".

Also, maybe I am wrong, but I remember something about formation being locked behind being a cultivator.
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She's been a cultivator for months though? She certainly didn't start at zero like we did.
 
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FixerUpper said:
She's been a cultivator for months though? She certainly didn't start at zero like we did.
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Ling Qi simply stared at her, what could she want help with. The other girl had awakened earlier this week, she wasn't exactly far ahead of her. "I don't see how I could help," she said after a moment.

Li Suyin fidgeted slightly under her gaze. "W-well. You have advanced so quickly, it took me a few months to reach this point. I was hoping maybe we could discuss the differences in our methods, and I could maybe observe your cultivation in private, without distractions," her voice seems to get smaller and smaller as she goes on until it is little more than a mumble. By the end she isn't even looking you in the eye any more. "...I'm sorry, I'm aware that that is a very rude request."
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Nah. She took months to awaken, but she only awoke on Week 2.

Arkeus said:
She was part of the non-awakened class like we were in week 1. She had been trying to awaken for months, but hadn't gotten there yet. Presumably because having a cultivation art to do so really helps.
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Does it? It looks like equipping AS1 led to awakening at the same time, but AS1 doesn't come into effect until you awaken so it can't help.
 
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Katreus said:
Does it? It looks like equipping AS1 led to awakening at the same time, but AS1 doesn't come into effect until you awaken so it can't help.
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We used the Argent Soul Scroll for directions in order to awaken:
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Ling Qi had the scroll for the Argent Soul technique open in her lap and was frowning down at the odd diagram and the text around it. To her eye it seemed like no more than a collection of breathing exercises interspersed with flowery philosophical nonsense. She was beginning to feel irritated, she knew she was missing something, but couldn't quite understand what.
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I have been thinking about the tortoise turtle spirit beast egg and what to name it wwhen it hatches. Assuming spirits don't pop into existence with intrinsically held nomenclature, I like Ling Ko.

Ling Qi's name is a diminutive/the first syllable of her mother Qingge's name. The only parent of the egg we know the name of is Kohatu, and I think the shattered core-turned-egg designates that one as the 'mother'? Probably? I would like to pay homage to its parents in some way, in recognition of the good fortune bequeathed upon us and for the tragedy, though we poorly understand it. Also, Ling Qi/Ling Ko sounds theme-ish and cute.
 
Well, that's confusing. Was she trying to cultivate using her clan's broken cultivation method? Or was she just trying to... spontaneously awaken?

Also, the number of times Li Suyin has sold herself short is starting to get... awkward. She more or less awoke in two weeks - so the 'months' thing is misleading. Then there was that thing about how she 'didn't have any arts mastered' (she had a foot technique) and the outright lie (possibly) being the source of the pills she gave us.

I'm not saying Li's a liar, but she undermines herself a lot. I hope she gets a really bold spirit beast, or gets a project which really allows her to shine, because I think that our presence as super-talented newcomer might be validating her inferiority complex.
 
FixerUpper said:
Pretty sure people are going to want to keep baby turtle as secret as possible, but if not, I'm for this option as Su Ling has shown herself to be a dab hand at creating defenses and that's one of my major concerns. I'd be willing to vote to pay her for kiln + show us how to set up some solid defenses.
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Well, I trust her to keep a secret, personally.
 
You know how to keep Turtle safe?

Ask Meizhen for permission to write "BAI" in bold letters on the side of the Kiln. Even the people whom don't like her will give it a wild berth.
 
FixerUpper said:
I'm not saying Li's a liar, but she undermines herself a lot. I hope she gets a really bold spirit beast, or gets a project which really allows her to shine, because I think that our presence as super-talented newcomer might be validating her inferiority complex.
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I'm thinking the opposite here. She has been slowly gaining some measure of confidence, though slowly. Also determination. Yeah, comparing to Ling Qi doesn't only help, but I think it did help more than people are believing.
 
*sees red ping*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....


:mob::mob::mob::sour::sour:


Lol. But yeah daggers are back up weapons , and honestly I'm really hoping we stick with the glaive/heavy polearm just because I want ling qi to be the teenage girl that makes everyone wtf all the time
 
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