Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

My general impression was that everyone voting for that thought they were voting for polearms/glaives whatever.
That was indeed my general impression when I created that option. I looked up Chinese halberd on Google, saw the first image (which is not a Chinese halberd or Jian but a glaive) and said yes, that is what I want in my polearm.
 
Err how exactly do we alternate between flute and pole arm in a battle? That seems kinda awkward...
The exact same way we switch between the flute and a sword or the flute and the bow. We place the flute in the storage ring or in a pocket and draw out the polearm/bow/sword from the storage ring. Any weapon other than the flute will require that type of action to use.
 
Gonna be honest, while I don't want polearms, pushing chinese halberd under spear instead seems a little dodgy.

My general impression was that everyone voting for that thought they were voting for polearms/glaives whatever.

Ji's are halberd, but they aren't glaives or heavy polearms, and they are very much on the lighter end of the scale. Putting them with the heavy weapons is a bigger deal then putting Sabers and Swords together, you actually use some spear techniques with a Ji. That's something that changed plans and votes before, so it's not like it's the first time figuring out where the box was draw made people have to change votes.

As a reminder, the actual boxes being drawn are Heavy Polearm and Light Polearm. Anyone who spent a moment looking up the Ji would realize it's a light polearm just like a spear is.
 
As a reminder, the actual boxes being drawn are Heavy Polearm and Light Polearm. Anyone who spent a moment looking up the Ji would realize it's a light polearm just like a spear is.
Yeah, while I spent a moment looking up a Ji and got two different answers, One looked more like a glaive and the other one is the proper Ji. So I don't know what to say to that statement.
 
That's because they really don't fit us very well. The only techniques we might put in the are Zephyr techniques which are all cheap, or the first FVM technique, and that's strictly inferior to using it on it's own. Only time that's really appealing is if we wanted to thieve, and a good chance for that hasn't appeared yet.
At the time, we don't have many Stones, Qi-replenishing pills, or Talismans that discount technique Qi costs. An extra 5 Qi is pretty good when you only have 20+ Qi overall.

Mist could have been a good emergency card, in case flute is ever taken or stolen (not that it ever happened), Crescent Grace is basically our Dodge. We could have shared the two to Suyin or Su Ling, trading with other things if we don't trade for filling other cards with their Techniques, thus increasing their survivability...

Eh, options not taken.

Err how exactly do we alternate between flute and pole arm in a battle? That seems kinda awkward...
Following the bow question as well, FVM effects now last for 4 rounds after Ling Qi stop playing, including any rider effects that she has managed to turn on before the interruption that makes her switch from flute to bow or polearm.
 
The same way we would with any of the other options. This isn't a polearm-only concern.
The pole arm is a two handed weapon that is long and awkward to wield, I would expect it to be fairly slow as well. If we have a sword or whip at least we can instantly draw it from the ring and transition seemlessly to a quick attack, I cant help but feel the polearm would be stupidly clumsy at both engaging the enemy and disengaging to reuse to reactivate our mist.
 
Who called that a tonfa? That is not a tonfa, that's the size of a walking stick. Tonfas are like forearm length at the outset.

That why I keep saying calling them a tonfa is very misleading. But...

Article:
Although the tonfa is most commonly associated with the Okinawan martial arts, its origin is heavily debated. One of the most commonly cited origins is China, although origins from Indonesia to Thailand are also possible.[3][4][5] Okinawan tradition derives the tonfa from a millstone handle.[2] The Chinese and Malay words for the weapon (guai and topang respectively) literally mean crutch, which may suggest the weapon originating from the crutch. In Cambodia and Thailand a similar weapon is used consisting of a pair of short clubs tied onto the forearms, known in Thai as mai sok and in Khmer as bokgatau. In Thailand and Malaysia the mai sok often has a similar design to the tonfa, with a perpendicular handle rather than being tied on. This weapon might be the original version of the tonfa.
 
Eh. I just think that spears are better for working in formations and attempting to engage people from an intermediate range rather than having to get as close as a sword implies, plus sword-swinging protagonists are a dime a dozen because people just love to make swords primary weapons for no reason that I can discern. The advantage of unarmed is that it provides additional strength that cannot be as easily disabled by simply disarming us (unless we are actually disarmed but then a weapon won't work either) and allows for more diversity in terms of attacking from other limbs. Boo for swords.
 
[X] Bow
[X] Heavy Polearm

A heavy polearm is actually pretty good for us, lots of damage if we need to shuck something out of a shell, and the reach is a great advantage--narratively anyway. Considering that we can use Strength or Dexterity to fight with, I think we can get a lot of mileage out of this, especially since we still have our daggers as close in weapons if something can get inside our reach.

A sword is a fine duelist's weapon, but the spear is what you take to war, and that's what we can expect in the future.

We're a support specialist after all, getting in formation with the others and then spreading out buffs makes us a huge pain to specifically target, while our formation gets more and more effective. Many arrows are harder to break than a single one after all.
 
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Ji's are halberd, but they aren't glaives or heavy polearms, and they are very much on the lighter end of the scale. Putting them with the heavy weapons is a bigger deal then putting Sabers and Swords together, you actually use some spear techniques with a Ji. That's something that changed plans and votes before, so it's not like it's the first time figuring out where the box was draw made people have to change votes.

As a reminder, the actual boxes being drawn are Heavy Polearm and Light Polearm. Anyone who spent a moment looking up the Ji would realize it's a light polearm just like a spear is.
I think voters can be forgiven for deferring to explicit QM rulings. It's the vote whiplash that is of concern here. Good that it was caught now rather than requirring creative correction later, but still hardly satisfied for those inconvenienced.
 
The pole arm is a two handed weapon that is long and awkward to wield, I would expect it to be fairly slow as well.
Except that as a silver stage cultivator, the weight of the weapon isn't that much of a hindrance to us and with proper training, a polearm doesn't become awkward to wield at all. The speed of the swings isn't much of an issue because we are able to use our dex stat for fighting with the weapon.
 
I think voters can be forgiven for deferring to explicit QM rulings. It's the vote whiplash that is of concern here. Good that it was caught now rather than requirring creative correction later, but still hardly satisfied for those inconvenienced.

I would apologize, but if we settle on a weapon I would vastly prefer the sort of elegant Ji over a heavier pole-arm, so I'm not going to apologize. I want to keep it distinct, because this is the kind of story were we do ultimately learn a bunch of weapons, and I don't want the Ji folded in with the heavier polearms. That would just mean it disappears.

I think Sword is more urgent because I want a flying sword, and we need to do the prep work now, but I certainly wouldn't mind a Ji.
 
The pole arm is a two handed weapon that is long and awkward to wield, I would expect it to be fairly slow as well. If we have a sword or whip at least we can instantly draw it from the ring and transition seemlessly to a quick attack, I cant help but feel the polearm would be stupidly clumsy at both engaging the enemy and disengaging to reuse to reactivate our mist.
To be clear, there are no weapons that, if stored in the ring, can be drawn and used instantaneously. And there have been no weapons put forward that would allow us to fight and play the flute at the same time. Seems to me like you're trying to make the polearm option look worse, but all weapons have those limitations.

As for clumsiness, Ling Qi is massively strong compared to a standard human thanks to her cultivation and even regular humans can learn to wield a glaive or halberd with a measure of grace. We have even been told she's strong enough to use her Dexterity attribute for all but a few weapons. It's not an issue.
 
To be clear, there are no weapons that, if stored in the ring, can be drawn and used instantaneously. And there have been no weapons put forward that would allow us to fight and play the flute at the same time. Seems to me like you're trying to make the polearm option look worse, but all weapons have those limitations.

As for clumsiness, Ling Qi is massively strong compared to a standard human thanks to her cultivation and even regular humans can learn to wield a glaive or halberd with a measure of grace. We have even been told she's strong enough to use her Dexterity attribute for all but a few weapons. It's not an issue.

Actually, he's voting unarmed. So I think he wants us to go for kicks?
 
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