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@Arkeus I like your plan, but I think that the sect missions are too valuable to pass up.

[X] Plan Moongernized With More Quests!
Resources: Starlight Elixir, Argent Elixir, 3 red stones, Steady Growth Pill, bear marrow elixir
Major Actions:
[X]Starlight Elixir
[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
-[X] Physical
[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
-[X] EPC
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
[X] Take a Job
-[X] Subject Required
[X] Visit the Archive
-[X] Research the egg. What does it need to hatch?
[X] Cultivate Argent Mirror with Bai Meizhen

Minor actions:

[X] Spend some time with Han Jian outside of training, what do they do for fun?
[X] Go out with Xiulan in your downtime, perhaps she can help you do something with your hair
-[X] Ask about inviting Bai Meizhen
[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test

Edit: Since @Arkeus is going to change his plan, Don't vote for mine!
 
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@Arkeus Some thoughts

1. Maybe you can put a subvote under Han Jian to offer to unlock the Star token and let him know about AS4

2. IMO, the token action isn't as necessary as the Guangli to open up a line into CRX's camp. Guangli's is a bit time sensitive; at some point, it really is too belated to thank him. I think as long as we do token actions next week and the week after to finish before Week 19, it'll be fine, especially since if our guess is right, it won't be that helpful at the moment.

3. Why the steady growth elixir? It's pretty expensive for something that will only benefit a couple rolls. Def. not as cost effective as the Bear Marrow Elixir.

4. I like the plan name :)

5. Remember to put dashes before the other parts of your plan so that tally can count by block.
 
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Oh come on vote [] For Fuck's Sake, Let's Just Get One Bloody Attack Art for a sizzling Arm Art guys! Don't let us get pigeonholed as just the mist-user.
 
Raron said:
[X] Plan Turtle-Snake
-[X] Steady Growth Pill, Argent Elixir, Bear Marrow Elixir, 2 Red spirit stones, Starlight Elixir
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Physical
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Spiritual
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Research the egg. What does it need to hatch?
-[X] Cultivate Argent Mirror with Bai Meizhen
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Minor Actions
--[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
--[X] Spend some time with Han Jian outside of training, what do they do for fun?
--[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things

This advances our cultivation in both Spiritual and Physical, and starts working on the EPC. We should finish Argent Soul this week due to +5 due to vent and bonus successes due to Argent Elixir and 2 Physical rolls and Argent Mirror roll. By cultivating Argent Mirror, we equip it, and we can leave it alone while it will train itself every week. I also get us started on learning about the egg and fixing the relationship prbolems we have with Suying and Han Jian. Last minor action is for learning about the tokens so we get more resources to cultivate.

Should also point out that with this plan, we have a good chance to break trough to Middle Silver, which gives us both combat potential and faster cultivation speed.
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Consider joining us with Plan Moongernized? It is almost the same as your plan, but swaps out Spiritual Cultivation for SCS. Given that SCS rolls with major bonuses from multiple pills and 1/3 of the successes go to AS, I think it is a more efficient approach.
 
PrimalShadow said:
Consider joining us with Plan Moongernized? It is almost the same as your plan, but swaps out Spiritual Cultivation for SCS. Given that SCS rolls with major bonuses from multiple pills and 1/3 of the successes go to AS, I think it is a more efficient approach.
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Or you could vote for an Arm art with us and hopefully get an Art for attacking weakpoints with precise blows.
 
Are people really going to use the Starlight Elixir on a turn where we aren't doing closed door cultivation? That's pretty wasteful.

Edit: Like, next turn isn't the last time moonfall happens, and doing what we would have to do to learn it in time is too expensive.
 
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1986ctcel said:
Oh come on vote [] For Fuck's Sake, Let's Just Get One Bloody Attack Art for a sizzling Arm Art guys! Don't let us get pigeonholed as just the mist-user.
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Don't start, remember what happened last time. If you want to try to convince people of your plan go ahead but this is just a heads up not to get too heated about it. We are all friends here ...mostly
 
[X] Plan: Turtle Must Become Larger!
-[X] Argent Elixir, Bear Marrow Elixir, 2 Red spirit stones, Starlight Elixir
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Sable Crescent Step
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Research the egg. What does it need to hatch?
-[X] Cultivate Argent Mirror with Bai Meizhen
-[X] Intermediate hunting Mission: More advanced beasts require more advanced hunters and offer greater rewards. 6 points. Repeatable
--[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
-[X] Minor Actions
--[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
--[X] Spend some time with Han Jian outside of training, what do they do for fun?
--[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things

This functionally gets us three sets of dice to throw at the Argent Soul Problem, one of which is inflated a bit. We get lots of Art progression out of this, have a very high chance of mastering Argent Soul, and we have time to get an introduction to hunting random encounters for fun and profit. We also have time to start putting out some of our social link fires too, and finally, we start working on baby turtledragon and EPC.
 
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Alectai said:
[X] Plan: Turtle Must Become Larger!
-[X] Steady Growth Pill, Argent Elixir, Bear Marrow Elixir, 2 Red spirit stones, Starlight Elixir
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Sable Crescent Step
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Research the egg. What does it need to hatch?
-[X] Cultivate Argent Mirror with Bai Meizhen
-[X] Intermediate hunting Mission: More advanced beasts require more advanced hunters and offer greater rewards. 6 points. Repeatable
--[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
-[X] Minor Actions
--[X] Spend some time with Han Jian outside of training, what do they do for fun?
--[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
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You get one "free" attached minor action, so you're one minor action short.
 
PrimalShadow said:
I think the point isn't that we intend to finish it, but that we intend to start it - which means we start getting benefits from it sooner.

Honest, I'm not categorically against doing something else with that slot - but I'm not sure that a gathering mission or whatnot is worth more it. I don't think we were planning to use the sect points in the near future, and the other benefits are nice but not overwhelming.
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It's not about the sect points. It's about the fact that we'll be flat broke by the end of next week without doing a job. Much better to do a job this week and another next week than have to do 2 next week at a rush.

@Arkeus I consider doing EPC rather than SCS this week fairly wasteful as it benifits from none of the pills we're taking. Whereas SCS gets a 5 dice bonus from the starlight elixir. I know people want EPC but this is highly wasteful of valuable resources.

@Raron If you attach a minor action to a major you get a free minor action. At the moment you're losing out on that.
@Alectai You're also short one minor action as you've paired one.
 
I think you're allowed one more minor, @Alectai.

And seriously, why is everyone taking the Steady Growth Elixir? It's so wasteful and so expensive for something that benefits maybe 1 roll.
 
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PrimalShadow said:
Do you really think that a sect mission is worth around 1.5 cultivation actions? Because given the current pill regiment, that is basically what you are giving up by dropping SCS.
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SCS is only benefitting from Argent Elixir right now. While it's nice, it's worth less than a hunting mission I'd say.
Katreus said:
@Arkeus Some thoughts

1. Maybe you can put a subvote under Han Jian to offer to unlock the Star token and let him know about AS4

2. IMO, the token action isn't as necessary as the Guangli to open up a line into CRX's camp. Guangli's is a bit time sensitive; at some point, it really is too belated to thank him. I think as long as we do token actions next week and the week after to finish before Week 19, it'll be fine, especially since if our guess is right, it won't be that helpful at the moment.

3. Why the steady growth elixir? It's pretty expensive for something that will only benefit a couple rolls. Def. not as cost effective as the Bear Marrow Elixir.

4. I like the plan name :)

5. Remember to put dashes before the other parts of your plan so that tally can count by block.
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I don't think we need to vote by block for this one, but if people are doing it I'll edit.

I have edited a few things, please check. Also, good point about Han Jian. About AS4 what is it about AS4?
 
[X] Plan Moongernized

Well, I believe the thought was to talk to Han Jian about the tokens and inform him that AS 4 helps with breakthrough attempts.
 
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PrimalShadow said:
Consider joining us with Plan Moongernized? It is almost the same as your plan, but swaps out Spiritual Cultivation for SCS. Given that SCS rolls with major bonuses from multiple pills and 1/3 of the successes go to AS, I think it is a more efficient approach.
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Considering. However Plan Moongernized uses 3 Red Spirit Stones (when we should only use 2, since Vent gives us one Red and one Yellow). And I feel bad from missing cultivating Spiritual. We have yet to do it once ever since we broke trough to Yellow stage. SCS on other hand has no chance to finish this turn, and I don't see the rush for it, since we will need to unlock the Spine Meridian if we want to finish it. While it does give us extra rolls to Argent and so is safer in that regard, I think we are already safe in that area.

Also, I think the Moongernized just changed SCS for doing a quest. While I think it would be nice to start working towards Yellow Stage Zephyrs, I think forgetting to cultivate is a far more pressing matter. The plan is not bad, I just prioritize cultivation and using our talent to make the gap between us and the ones currently at Red stage even bigger.


1986ctcel said:
Or you could vote for an Arm art with us and hopefully get an Art for attacking weakpoints with precise blows.
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I'm the person which is probably the most against Arm arts...
 
I'm wondering why Moongernized passes off SCS for Physical when SCS counts as a physical action thanks to the Starlight Elixir, as does Argent Mirror?
 
Arkeus said:
I have edited a few things, please check. Also, good point about Han Jian. About AS4 what is it about AS4?
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AS4 gives a breakthrough bonus, which is probably more significant the lower the talent level. Not helpful to Han Jian personally given his cultivation level, but might be helpful to the others (who would take it better from HJ than us).

Raron said:
Considering. However Plan Moongernized uses 3 Red Spirit Stones (when we should only use 2, since Vent gives us one Red and one Yellow).
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The vent gives EITHER a Red or Yellow. So, if we want it to take a Yellow, we'll need 3 red stones to max out.

SCS on other hand has no chance to finish this turn, and I don't see the rush for it, since we will need to unlock the Spine Meridian if we want to finish it. While it does give us extra rolls to Argent and so is safer in that regard, I think we are already safe in that area.
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SCS benefits a ton from the pills we're taking this turn and we have very few things that usually benefit its roll. So we should definitely take this opportunity to cultivate it.
 
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