Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

Han Jian's was strong in compassion, but weak in courage. He couldn't fix what was wrong with his world, so he kept trying to sort of patch the symptoms without ever being willing to put in the effort and take the risks necessary to make it right. Some of it fell apart around him, some of it he salvaged, and when he does make it to the Inner Sect next year (near-guaranteed), he'll be much stronger for having had to confront those things.

The Han Jian route wasn't ever going to work out. Once we got to the point where he was no longer way too far above us, he was way too far below us. He does not have what it takes to be the man that we will need.

I think his main issue is putting things off for later. He put off his training, he put off dealing with the Xiulan matter, he put off dealing with Fan Yu's insecurities, etc. Until the moment has passed and the choice is no longer his to make.

Heck, he even tried to put off picking sides until he got dragged in.

Indecision is his bane.

He didn't invest in us.
He very much did invest time and attention on us, bringing us into group training, sharing team missions, at the expense of his group integrity as it turns out we stirred the pot of superheated water and it boiled over.

We did pay it back whenever we could, but Ling Qi never did grasp the social dynamics of whats going on until it was too late and she peeled Xiulan off.
 
Thinking is over, Han Jian is one of the biggest losers from Ling Qi's presence in the sect. Without her the Golden Fields group would have had to stick together for safety in the face of the general chaos caused by the Sun-Cai conflict. This would also have given Han Jian the motivation he needed to get stronger to protect his retainers, as well as the time to deal with the intra-group issues.
 
Thinking is over, Han Jian is one of the biggest losers from Ling Qi's presence in the sect. Without her the Golden Fields group would have had to stick together for safety in the face of the general chaos caused by the Sun-Cai conflict. This would also have given Han Jian the motivation he needed to get stronger to protect his retainers, as well as the time to deal with the intra-group issues.
Probably. It'd have kicked the issues down the road to be dealt with later however, which given how cultivation works, might not exactly be doing him any favors either.

So taking them individually:
-Han Fang - I don't think much changes for him. He's basically Han Jian's rock in this chaos, though admittedly we know little of him.

-Fan Yu - Without Ling Qi he'd have been more secure in his position for longer, but it remains that he has deep issues with his cultivation(I think there was a mention of how his personality could get in the way of his Earth elemental focus?), which is only going to get more pressurized in the event of an endless Thunderdome compared to the relative peace under Cai.
--I think Ling Qi definitely hurt here, she made his lagging cultivation a matter of competing with her for his personal status rather than supporting the group.

-Xiulan - Hoo boy, the biggest impact. Xiulan's issues were that she disliked Fan Yu(but their families wanted the pairing), she loves Han Jian(and he reciprocates, but their families don't want the pairing), she has no other friends, and she has a high opinion of herself.
--With Ling Qi, she could spend a lot of time away from Fan Yu without looking like she's sulking alone. This helped Fan Yu not dig himself any deeper and allowed her to be more disdainful from a distance, but also prevented him from making any progress to making her actually tolerate him over time. Without Ling Qi this could go either way.
--With Ling Qi, she did eventually bring the Han Jian matter to a head and I think she gave up on him after an argument? Hard to tell how much of it was our influence.
--Xiulan probably would have thrived in the Thunderdome chaotic environment...and without Ling Qi she very likely would not have been so troubled about falling behind(between being outcultivated and the Trial showing just how poorly she performed to her, it was critical) and its impact on her self image that she took the Tribulation.

-Han Jian was on a personal level, somewhat better off. Ling Qi's crazy cultivation dedication got him off his ass sooner, I suspect without her he'd have been more focused on social matters until the Thunderdome hit him like a rock. But at the same time her percipitating the strifes inside his group also ate up time he no longer had trying to manage things since he was cultivating seriously sooner, and in the end she got attached enough that even his trying to distance them didn't work because Ling Qi grabbed on like a limpet.
 
He very much did invest time and attention on us, bringing us into group training, sharing team missions, at the expense of his group integrity as it turns out we stirred the pot of superheated water and it boiled over.
Sure - he directed some attention and energy our way back when we were in Red, which is why tried to keep interacting with him at all. The rest of the year, he expressly rebuffed any attempts at strengthening ties.
 
Sure - he directed some attention and energy our way back when we were in Red, which is why tried to keep interacting with him at all. The rest of the year, he expressly rebuffed any attempts at strengthening ties.

In Yellow as well. But towards the end of Yellow he tried to cut ties.
This is different from not trying.

He's trying to do damage control
 
Probably. It'd have kicked the issues down the road to be dealt with later however, which given how cultivation works, might not exactly be doing him any favors either.

Remember that these are fourteen year olds. Adolescent crushes are problems that solve themselves with age. As are many of the groups other issues. As they'd become more mature, with the pressure of circumstances giving them strong reasons to work together and get alone, they'd tend to simply grow out of their problems, which would end up just being amusing adolescent anecdotes of their days in the sect when they were adults.
 
Remember that these are fourteen year olds. Adolescent crushes are problems that solve themselves with age. As are many of the groups other issues. As they'd become more mature, with the pressure of circumstances giving them strong reasons to work together and get alone, they'd tend to simply grow out of their problems, which would end up just being amusing adolescent anecdotes of their days in the sect when they were adults.

Or they integrate these adolescent concerns into their enlightenment and built it into their permanent self identity.
 
Forge is on page 2 of best rated on RR. Way to go everyone!

Page 3 actually. And the real question is if it can maintain that rating. After all, the reason it's so high up is the threadgoers here have been bombarding it with high ratings just as it came out. Once the wave of ratings and positive reviews calms down and the story starts to hit its stride is when we can really see if it can continue to maintain its spot or climb up. The most important thing to maintain this is to get new readers in.
 
Nevermind! My support ticket was replied to almost immediately! :lol

The rerelease can be found here
Any chance you can add a link back to the quest/SV? Would be nice to gave a pointer back to this site for once (compared to people who dump a fic from Royal Road on SB/SV and without any author-reader interaction wonder why it dies)

Page 3 actually. And the real question is if it can maintain that rating. After all, the reason it's so high up is the threadgoers here have been bombarding it with high ratings just as it came out. Once the wave of ratings and positive reviews calms down and the story starts to hit its stride is when we can really see if it can continue to maintain its spot or climb up. The most important thing to maintain this is to get new readers in.
yrsillar has a hilariously large back-log of content to post, most of the popularity on RoyalRoad is cemented by ensuring consistent and regular release schedules.
 
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Any chance you can add a link back to the quest/SV? Would be nice to gave a pointer back to this site for once (compared to people who dump a fic from Royal Road on SB/SV and without any author-reader interaction wonder why it dies)
There is already one in the story summary, actually.
royalroadl said:
In the Celestial Empire, a land ruled by Immortals and stalked by Spirits and Beasts, a young girl from the slums of an unimportant city is found to have the Talent. In the great Sect of Argent Peak, she will take her first unsteady steps upon the way.
Can she learn to not only survive, but thrive on her journey?
Updates Thursdays
Cover Art by faith0m

Original, unedited Quest found here
Under 'show more'.
 
So after browsing Royal Road, it seems like it's mostly about fics with explicit rpg mechanics? Is that all stories on the site, or is it the just the most popular?
 
Any chance you can add a link back to the quest/SV? Would be nice to gave a pointer back to this site for once (compared to people who dump a fic from Royal Road on SB/SV and without any author-reader interaction wonder why it dies)


yrsillar has a hilariously large back-log of content to post, most of the popularity on RoyalRoad is cemented by ensuring consistent and regular release schedules.

I did link back, under the illustrator credits. I suppose I could move it up though?

@yrsillar please keep that cover image handy for SV. Once the site moves to XF2 there will be a place to put it ;)


It is under the "show more", which gets added after ~3 sentences depending on which view you see the fic in. It actually hacks up the summary a pile.

Noted :)
 
You still doing the agent interlude after Smelting? My suggestion is all of Smelting and interlude before thursday then start Thursday with week 1.

And for interludes in future, Monday for interludes...
 
So after browsing Royal Road, it seems like it's mostly about fics with explicit rpg mechanics? Is that all stories on the site, or is it the just the most popular?
It's very much not the only thing, but it is very popular.

A surprisingly good observation actually, previously Metaworld Chronicles was the only non-game mechanics story I followed closely on the site (now joined with the FoD rewrite).
 
That's actually why my previous story there got taken down. I tried to go with the popular flow but the game-y stuff grated too much with the story and left me not wanting to write it anymore :p
 
Hi. I'm reading though the quest for the first time, but i had a question that made me post.

I'm just after the mountain fight with Sun, and I notice that the voters held off on a Breakthrough attempt to the next cultivation stage. Some of the nuances of the leveling system elude me, so I was curious about it. I'd think that attempting the breakthrough at as soon as it was available was good? It's the level up for the character right?
 
Hi. I'm reading though the quest for the first time, but i had a question that made me post.

I'm just after the mountain fight with Sun, and I notice that the voters held off on a Breakthrough attempt to the next cultivation stage. Some of the nuances of the leveling system elude me, so I was curious about it. I'd think that attempting the breakthrough at as soon as it was available was good? It's the level up for the character right?
Basically, the Xianxia genre (and the quest) works of a narrative where the stronger your foundation is (E.G, how good you are at low level) the stronger you will be once you rank up.

Mechanically, by taking the time to increase our meridians/qi, master our cultivation art, combat arts, and maximise our stats and skills before breakthrough, the 'better' the level up gains will be.
 
Hi. I'm reading though the quest for the first time, but i had a question that made me post.

I'm just after the mountain fight with Sun, and I notice that the voters held off on a Breakthrough attempt to the next cultivation stage. Some of the nuances of the leveling system elude me, so I was curious about it. I'd think that attempting the breakthrough at as soon as it was available was good? It's the level up for the character right?
Breaking through when you've reached certain milestones gives you some extra permanent bonuses. For example breaking through when you've maxed out dexterity will give dexterity bonuses and increase the cap. Breaking through with enough mastery in Fire Arts, will give bonuses to using and training fire.

This mechanic wasn't discussed explicitly in the story, other than Meizhen stating how many arts she mastered before attempting breakthrough.
 
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Precisely. Someone who just rushes climbing up the Cultivation Ladder is going to be considerably weaker than someone who maximizes their gains and every stage before stepping up to the next one.

We already saw some of it in the tournament, how dominating Ling Qi was even against people who--on paper--should be stronger than her. But because she had such great progress at the earlier ranks, she was qualitatively superior enough that most competitors weren't her match, until we got to the Ducal Households, who have the advantage of knowing exactly what you need to do to get the biggest long term gains as fast as possible.
 
Ok, so: mechanics revamp pretty much done. As a teaser, here's my attempt at recreating the Week 47 Meizhen spar in the new system.

This is using our current stats, also it should be emphasised that I do not know what Meizhen's passives and tech abilities are, so there is a fair amount of guesswork here. They should not be taken as super precise canon figures.

Speed comparison:

Ling Qi:
Base Speed: B17 (Strength D, Dexterity A,) Unqualified Bonuses: Zephyr 2, Step 15, AS 5, PLR 5
Base Initiative: B19 (Dexterity A, Wits C), Unqualified Bonuses: Way 5, Zephyr 2, Step 10, AS 2

Meizhen:
Base Speed: A (Strength C, Dexterity S) Unqualified Bonuses: Serpent's Shadow 10 + Cultivation 10
Base Initiative: A35 (Dexterity S, Wits A) + cultivation 10

....
The queen deigns allow us our pretenses of speed

~~~
Turn 1

Ling Qi casts Hoarfrost Caress and Spring's End Aria(instant) D, E qi expenditure. Minor.
Hit: A (Manip B, Music S) + Specialty 20 + Equip 20 (flute 5, shawl 5, SMB 10) + Passives 5 (Darkness 3, Sixiang 2) + Tech 5 + First Strike 10 + Multi 10 = S20
Penetration: C10 (Presence E, Music S) + Specialty 10 + Flute 10 + Passives 18 (FSS 5+10, Darkness 3) + Tech 10 + First Strike 10 + Multi 10 = A18

The Meizhen responds with Abyssal Mantle, D qi expenditure. Minor.
S.Avoid: B (Wits B, Fade B) + Passives 10 - SEA 5 = B5 + 10 (cultivation) = B15
S.Armor: A (Resolve A, Resilience A) + Equip 35 (robe 30, talisman 5) + Passives 10 + Mantle 10 - SEA 5 = S + 10 (cultivation) = S10

HC hits!
6 damage reduced by 5 (Mantle) = 1
It's not very effective!
1 damage negated with 2 qi

Meizhen's counterattack activates
Hit: A (Int A, Projection A) + Equip 10 + Passives 15 + Tech 5 = A30 + 10 (cultivation) + Multi 5 = A45
Pen: A (Presence A, Projection A) + Equip 5 + Passives 15 + Tech 10 = A30 + 10 (cultivation) + Multi 5 = A45

Ling Qi responds with Deepwood Vitality. Gains temporary E Health attribute, D qi expenditure. Minor.
P.Avoid: B20 (Dex A, Dodge B) + Passives 14 (Way 3, AS 5, PLR 5, FZ 1) = B34
P.Armor: D5 (Stam C, Fort D) + Equip 25 (Robe 20, anchor 5) + Passives 17 (TRF 10, AS 2, low light 5) = B17

Counterattack hits!
Damage taken by temporary Health attribute. Temp Health destroyed.
No damage taken.

Singing Mist Blade Attacks vs Meizhen, Implacable Edge, Terror Phantasm
Hit: A (Dex/Expression A25, rank down reduces to C10 +50 meridians)
Penetration: A5 (Dex A, rank down reduces to C, +50 Meridians, +15 Bonus)

Meizhen:
S.Avoid: B (Wits B, Fade B) + Passives 10 - SEA 5 = B5 + 10 (cultivation) = B15
S.Armor: A (Resolve A, Res A) + Equip 35 (robe 30, talisman 5) + Passives 10 + Mantle 10 - SEA 5 = S + 10 (cultivation) = S10

Hits! No damage! 1 stack of SMB debuff acquired.

Implacable Edge
Avoid: A35 base? -> rank down to ~B30 + meridians 30 = A20 + 10 (cultivation) = A30
Armor: A45 base? -> rank down to ~B35 + meridians 30 = A25 + 10 (cultivation) = A35

Clips and does ~5 damage if yrs is feeling nice.
Implacable Edge health: 45/50

Terror Phantasm activates Fading Light (sword can actually do serious damage now)
S.Avoid: ~C (Wits C, Fade C) + Passives 10 + FL 5? = C15?
S.Armor: ~C (Resolve C, Resilence C) + Passives 20 + FL 5? = B5?

Phantasm gets hit for ~15 damage? -> Fading Light reduces by 5 -> Health ~30/40? 1 stack of SMB debuff acquired.

Implacable Edge Vs. Singing Mist Blade
Hit: A (Resolve A, Projection A) -> B + 60 meridians + 5 passives = A25 + 10 (cultivation) = A35
Penetration: Resolve A -> B + 60 meridians + bonus 20 = A40 + 10 (cultivation) = S

SMB:
Avoid: B2 (B33 ranked down reduces to D7 +25 meridians)
Armor: B2 (B30 ranked down reduces to D7 +25 meridians)

SMB takes ~30 damage? -> Health ~10/40
SMB armor reduced by 10? -> Armor: C12

Terror Phantasm activates Flayed Banner Wailing
Hit: B20 (Presence A, Projection B) + Passive 20 + Tech 10 + Multi 5 = A15
Against Zhengui: A10 -> S20 (cultivation) + Multi 5 = S25

Ling Qi:
Avoid: C (Wits C, Fade C) + Way 3 + PLR 3 + AM10 = C16

Zhengui:
Avoid: D (Wits C, Fade E)

Flayed Banner Wailing hits all targets!
????? effects unknown

Meizhen activates Abyssal Envenoming, Imperious Serpent's Majesty (instant). E, D qi expenditure? Minor.
gains +10 poison damage to Urumi attacks? +nasty debuffs
Hit: A (Presence A, Intimidate A) + Way 10 + Passives 10 + Equip 8 (talisman 5, gown 3) + IE 5 + Tech 10 = A43 + 10 cultivation + Multi 5 = S3
Against Zhengui: S3 -> S33 (cultivation) + Multi 5 = S38

Ling Qi:
Avoid: C (Wits C, Fade C) + Way 3 + PLR 3 + AM10 + Acclimation 10 = B6

Zhengui:
Avoid: D (Wits C, Fade E)

Tech hits! speed reduced by 2 ranks? -5 to all defenses

Sixiang uses Chaos Phase on Ling Qi
Dispel: B20 (Presence A, Tech B) + Tech 10 = B30

Flayed Banner Wailing Resist: D5 (Resolve C, Tech D?) + Passives 20? = C15
Imperious Serpent's Majesty Resist: B (Resolve A, Tech C) + Passives 10 + Equip 5 = B15 + 10 (cultivation) = B25

Flayed Banner Wailing dispelled, Imperious Serpent's Majesty maybe dispelled?

Zhengui activates Mind's Apart, then activates Ashfall and Boiling Shot
D, D, F rank qi expenditures. Minor.

Ashfall debuffs -5 to perception & hit
Ashfall Penetration: D5 (Presence D, Power C) + Multi 5 = C

Terror Phantasm:
P.Armor: ~C (Stamina C, Fortitude D) + Passives 10 + FL 5? = C15 + 10 (cultivation) = B5?
Ashfall does ~2 damage, reduced to 0 by Fading Light

Boiling Shot: Hit: B20 (Strength A, Natural Weapon B) + BB10 + Equip 3 + Tech 10 + Multi 5 = A18
Penetration: D5 (Presence D, Power C) + Base 5 + BB 5 + Multi 5 = C10

Terror Phantasm:
P.Avoid: ~C (Dex C, Dodge C) + Passives 5 + FL 5? = C10 + 10 (cultivation) = B?
P.Armor: ~C (Stamina C, Fortitude D) + Passives 10 + FL 5? = C15 + 10 (cultivation) = B5?

Boiling Shot hits and does ~5 damage reduced to 0 by Fading Light?

Turn 2
Ling Qi activates Mist of the Vale/Dissonance. E, E rank expenditure. Minor.
Diapason: Hit: A (Manip B, Music S) + Specialty 20 + Equip 20 (flute 5, shawl 5, SMB 10) + Passives 5 (Darkness 3, Sixiang 2) + Tech 10 + Multi 10 = S10

The field is covered in fog! Stealth is now possible. +5 stealth buff, -5 single target hit debuff.

Meizhen responds with Blackwater Riptide, D qi expenditure. Minor.
S.Avoid: B15 - SMB2 = B13

Terror Phantasm: Avoid: C15 - SMB2 = C13

Diapason lands on all targets! -5 perception, -5 avoid.
Ahahahaha! Debuffs landed! We're so awesome!
Meizhen: you realise you still can't really hurt me, right?
Ling Qi: :(


Blackwater Riptide: Hit: A (Intelligence A, Projection A) + Way 3 + Passives 10 + Specialty 10 + Equip 10 (Weapon 5, Talisman 5) + Tech 5 - Mist 5 - Ash 5 + 10 (cultivation) + Multi 5 = A43
Penetration: A (Presence A, Projection A) + Passives 10 + Equip 15 (Weapon 10, Talisman 5) + Tech 10 + 10 (cultivation) + Multi 5 = S

Ling Qi activates Grinning Crescent Dancer
Avoid: C (Wits C, Fade C) + Way 3 + PLR 3 + AM10 + SCS 5 + GCD 15 = B16
Armor: B (Resolve B, Resilience B) + AE 10 + Equip 30 (gown 25, anchor 5) + GCD 10 = A10

Counterattack hits! ~15 damage. Ling Qi health: 35/50
.... mistakes were made :(


Ling Qi activates Ten Ring Defense
Avoid: C (Wits C, Fade C) + Way 3 + PLR 3 + AM10 + SCS 5= B1
Armor: B (Resolve B, Resilience B) + AE 10 + Equip 30 (gown 25, anchor 5) = A

Counterattack hits! ~15 damage. Ling Qi expends 16 qi to negate. E rank expenditure. Minor.​

Dissonance activates
Hit: A (Manip B, Music S) + Specialty 20 + Equip 20 (flute 5, shawl 5, SMB 10) + Passives 5 (Darkness 3, Sixiang 2) + Tech 3 + Multi 10 = S3
Penetration: C10 (Presence E, Music S) + Specialty 10 + Flute 10 + Passives 18 (FSS 5+10, Darkness 3) + Tech 5 + Multi 10 = A3

Meizhen:
P.Avoid: A25 (Dex S, Dodge A) + Passives 10 = A35 - Diapason 5 = A30 + 10 (cultivation) = A40
P.Armor: A (Stamina A, Fortitude A) + Equip 35 (robe 30, talisman 5) + Passives 10 + Mantle 10 = S5 + 10 (cultivation) = S15
Dissonance hits! No damage. -4 to armor (1/3 stacks)

Terror Phantasm activates Darting Shade:
P.Avoid: ~C (Dex C, Dodge C) + Passives 5 + FL 5 + DS 10? - Diapason 5 = C15
P.Armor: ~C (Stamina C, Fortitude D) + Passives 10 + FL 5? = C15
Dissonance hits! 5 damage reduced to 0 by Fading Light? -4 to armor (1/3 stacks)

HC Echo: 15 damage reduced to 10 by Mantle. Meizhen expends 10 qi to negate. E rank expenditure. Minor.

Singing Mist Blade Attacks vs Meizhen, Terror Phantasm
Hit: A (Dex/Expression A25, rank down reduces to C10 +50 meridians)
Penetration: A5 (Dex A, rank down reduces to C, +50 Meridians, +15 Bonus)

Meizhen:
S.Avoid: B (Wits B, Fade B) + Passives 10 - SEA 5 - Diapason 5 - SMB2 = C18 + 10 (cultivation) = B8
S.Armor: A (Resolve A, Res A) + Equip 35 (robe 30, talisman 5) + Passives 10 + Mantle 10 - SEA 5 = S + 10 (cultivation) = S10

Hits! No damage! 2/5 stack of SMB debuff acquired.

Terror Phantasm:
S.Avoid: C13 - Diapason 5 = C8
S.Armor: B5 - Dissonance 4 = B1

Phantasm gets hit for ~15 damage? -> Fading Light reduces by 5 -> Health ~20/40?

Implacable Edge Vs. Singing Mist Blade
Hit: A (Resolve A, Projection A) -> B + 60 meridians + 5 passives = A25 + 10 (cultivation) = A35
Penetration: Resolve A -> B + 60 meridians + bonus 20 = A40 + 10 (cultivation) = S

SMB:
Avoid: B2 (B33 ranked down reduces to D7 +25 meridians)
Armor: B2 (B30 ranked down reduces to D7 +25 meridians) - IE 10 = C12

SMB takes ~30 damage? -> Health 0/40

Singing Mist Blade broken!

Terror Phantasm activates Sanguine Howling? Is there really any point?
Dispel: B (Presence A, SH C) + Passives 10 + Tech 10 = B20

Resist: C (Resolve B, Tech D) + Passives 18 + Equip 10 = B8

Probably dispels? But do we care? not really. Honestly, the qi expenditure there probably isn't worth it for it.

Meizhen activates Gleaming Abyssal Raiment (instant)
Meizhen uses Enrapturing Ophidian Strike!
Hit: A25 (Dex S, Urumi A) + Passives 10 + Equip 10 (Weapon 5, talisman 5) + Tech 10 - Mist 5 - Ash 5 + cultivation 10 = S
Penetration: B (Strength C, Urumi A) + Passives 10 + Equip 15 (Weapon 10, talisman 5) + Tech 15 + cultivation 10 = A10

Ling Qi:
Avoid: B20 (Dex A, Dodge B) + Passives 18 (Way 3, AS 5, PLR 5, SCS 5) = B38
Armor: D5 (Stamina C, Fortitude D) + Passives 12 (TRF 10, AS 2) + Equip 30 (Gown 25, anchor 5) + TRD 15 = B33

Attacks hits for 20 damage + 10 poison damage. Poison damage reduced by 5 -> 25 damage. Ling Qi uses 26 qi to negate damage -> D rank expenditure. Minor.
 
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