Defensively? Dunno, but Yrs did confirm on discord that stacking the Worms and Zhengui are what tilted the balance of the fight in our favor since it was pretty damn close before we got that Hoarfrost Caress off apparently.
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victor janus
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Hmm yeah we did something pretty far from what we voted for. were we just so panicked we forgot the plan. It seems to be an odd choice order otherwise.
I really feel that we'd have done a lot better if we'd dropped IPF in turn 2, and then buffed the worms properly with EW.
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I'd just like to see Xin again, maybe have a farewell or hear her comment on Ling Qi signing up with the Cai. It's doubtful that watching the other fights has any meaningful effect besides showing face or being political, and well. I like Xin, after all she did for Ling Qi and want to give her attention when she asks for it.
Aside from that, the fight scenes worked great even if some of the mechanical interpretation is wonky. Or how Ling Qi is on the slower side of the top tournament fighters, despite how focused she seems to be on initiative. But then, even Ling Qi can't be good at everything. But I am looking forward to the next thread when we'll be free of mechanics ^-^
I'd just like to see Xin again, maybe have a farewell or hear her comment on Ling Qi signing up with the Cai. It's doubtful that watching the other fights has any meaningful effect besides showing face or being political, and well. I like Xin, after all she did for Ling Qi and want to give her attention when she asks for it.
Aside from that, the fight scenes worked great even if some of the mechanical interpretation is wonky. Or how Ling Qi is on the slower side of the top tournament fighters, despite how focused she seems to be on initiative. But then, even Ling Qi can't be good at everything. But I am looking forward to the next thread when we'll be free of mechanics ^-^
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Its not because she panicked, if she panicked Yrs would have written that in her emotional internal thought line. What it was is that Happiness Worms Tactics was non-specific, like Yrs asked for.
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Alright... Time for me to just ramble on about the Ji Rong - Ling Qi showdown.
It is simply amazing just how much Ji Rong prepped and prepared to take down Ling Qi, specifically. Like Ji Rong knows his strength, he is a rush down beat down brawler that will get in your face and beat you to a pulp before you can properly react to him. He also knows his weakness, long dragged out fights where he can't pummel the opposition, and so he shores up his weakness with an amazing domain weapon.
His domain weapon doesn't help him bum rush the opposition, but it does keep spirit weapons, and probably other people, from interfering in the fight because of it's defensive nature. However, he can choose to forgo that defensive option in order to, it seems, cleanse himself of lingering effects (as it doesn't seem that Hoarfrost Caress repeated the damage) while healing and giving him back qi.
It's a wonderful domain weapon to give a "restart" to his offense. He is able to deal a ton of damage in the beginning phases, but if it seems to be turning into a long grind he can boost himself up so he has the advantage in that stage of the fight as well.
It is... unfortunate for him that he didn't seem to have any good AoE (his singular powerup that had an AoE effect seems to be a more self-focused version of Shielding Gale, and it is debatable if it did any damage at all to the worms) which means that our pit of worms was simply too much to handle at once. They didn't do all that much damage, it seemed, but they did what they were supposed to in forcing him to respond to them while giving us potent qi to use in order to power up a devastating attack.
His "Super Sayin Ultra Instinct Beat Down Mode" is something I would actually like for Ling Qi, just not as physically flashy and focused on spiritual powerup, an instant that boosts up the power of the next attack. It was really cool, did a good amount of damage to Ling Qi, but ultimately put him in the situation where he had to tank a Hoarfrost Caress.
It is simply amazing just how much Ji Rong prepped and prepared to take down Ling Qi, specifically. Like Ji Rong knows his strength, he is a rush down beat down brawler that will get in your face and beat you to a pulp before you can properly react to him. He also knows his weakness, long dragged out fights where he can't pummel the opposition, and so he shores up his weakness with an amazing domain weapon.
His domain weapon doesn't help him bum rush the opposition, but it does keep spirit weapons, and probably other people, from interfering in the fight because of it's defensive nature. However, he can choose to forgo that defensive option in order to, it seems, cleanse himself of lingering effects (as it doesn't seem that Hoarfrost Caress repeated the damage) while healing and giving him back qi.
It's a wonderful domain weapon to give a "restart" to his offense. He is able to deal a ton of damage in the beginning phases, but if it seems to be turning into a long grind he can boost himself up so he has the advantage in that stage of the fight as well.
It is... unfortunate for him that he didn't seem to have any good AoE (his singular powerup that had an AoE effect seems to be a more self-focused version of Shielding Gale, and it is debatable if it did any damage at all to the worms) which means that our pit of worms was simply too much to handle at once. They didn't do all that much damage, it seemed, but they did what they were supposed to in forcing him to respond to them while giving us potent qi to use in order to power up a devastating attack.
His "Super Sayin Ultra Instinct Beat Down Mode" is something I would actually like for Ling Qi, just not as physically flashy and focused on spiritual powerup, an instant that boosts up the power of the next attack. It was really cool, did a good amount of damage to Ling Qi, but ultimately put him in the situation where he had to tank a Hoarfrost Caress.
Ahh... Ji Rong. It was actually the other way around! You might have been stronger than us. It is... unfortunate that you failed, again. I'm sensing a pattern here.
During the first council fight, Sun wasn't regenerating her blood arms after they had been broken in her fight with CRX.
It's quite likely that CRX dispel art was used to prevent her from growing back her weapons.
It certainly won't seem like it to him, since we took Ji Rong on in his preferred range and then flipped the tables on him.
Zhiqiang's perspective on this fight is gonna be pretty fun to write when I get around to it later today
In what way is this Ji Rong preparing to take down Ling Qi specifically? You yourself mention that his domain weapon is built to close holes in his build, no to let him attack holes in our own.
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That, and using GCD before DWV. It's not like at worse we couldn't use TRD to Qi block for Zhengui, and he does have 11armour before HRA, and 13+2PD with.
But yeah, EW instead of second round of worms would have basically won us the match, and IPF turn 2 would have meant being full health and full Qi when winning.
I mean, Ji Rong made himself a good build... that had nothing to do with Ling Qi. In fact, his domain weapon is arguably a bad choice against Ling Qi, and a good choice against other burst fighters.
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I expect copious internal cackling and much commentary along the lines of "Welp, them's the breaks. Interesting girl though."It certainly won't seem like it to him, since we took Ji Rong on in his preferred range and then flipped the tables on him.
Zhiqiang's perspective on this fight is gonna be pretty fun to write when I get around to it later today
It would've been hilarious against Sharp Note, ngl
*Breaks Mirror*
*Nothing happens*
*Sweat drop*
It is a fantastically good domain weapon ability though. Like, think about it, by the time you probably want to recover qi your domain weapon is probably close to breaking anyway, so burning it like that works really well.
victor janus
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Yeah but he could have gotten the gist of full defense and only after that offense. Most notably not a single plan called for more then one worm.
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Well, we know that his domain weapon isn't a weapon that focuses on enhancing his bum rushing skill, but rather counters an aspect of an attrition style build. I mean... who else do we know would be able to drag on a fight into an attrition style in the Sect? Kang Zihao, Bai Meizhen, and then us. I can't think of another person on the outer sect that would be able to push his offense back into an attrition style game and then possibly come out on top. Gan certainly wasn't able to, and Ji Rong didn't even feel threatened enough to pull out his domain weapon against him, even when Gan used his.
So yes, it does fill up a hole in his build, but it is a hole that only a faint few would be able to actually exploit, one of them on his side of the conflict. I find it hard to believe that his well-developed build would choose to go for a domain weapon that would help deal with that hole without contemplating if that hole was worth filling and who would be able to exploit it. He was clearly concerned enough about this hole in his build that he devoted the resources to get an exemplary means of filling it, or Sun did, and that demonstrates that he was concerned about this hole being exploited.
This means that he is using his domain weapon slot not to enhance his own prowess or offensive power, but to stop a hole in his build from being exploited because he believes that if the flaw is exploited he will do worse in the fight and might lose. Only Ling Qi or Bai Meizhen are individuals that might have the ability and reason to exploit the flaw, and really Ling Qi is the only person he would need to be concerned about if he had an inkling on how the brackets would shake out.
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Talk about instant karma the 7 years of bad luck were ready to go.
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Well, they're meant to heal any obvious injuries as far as I am aware. If Sun Liling's bullshit holds anything like Gae Buidhe's bullshit(since there were Lancer comparisons earlier), that can't be healed without the wielder's weapon breaking or something insane like that, I don't think the Elders would heal that or anything non-obvious...
I mean, the only people who know the bullshit that the Sun can pull are the Sun themselves since this only showed up within the very recent generations(Sun and her father and Grandpa). Perhaps the Bai might have a clue, but I doubt it, since their White died.
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I mean, it doesn't counter attrition builds, it turns his burst build into a double-burst build, and that counters enemy burst builds.
Ling Qi doesn't win because she gets Ji Rong's Qi low, or because she gets his life low. She wins because she has debuffed him until Ji Rong can't do anything. Ji Rong's domain weapon actually couldn't do anything because the way it works is that it is perpendicular to Ling Qi's win condition, and he had already lost by the time the ability triggered. It just meant he lost 4 turns later.
Hell, there is an argument that Ling Qi had more Qi and was less wounded (thks Zhengui) by the time Ji Rong lost compared to when Ji Rong used his domain weapon ability, so it actually made Ling Qi look better. Not sure @yrsillar had that though.
However, that weapon would work great against Kang Zihao or Chu Song or Xiulan. It's just useless against Meizhen or Ling Qi.