Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
- Location
- United States of America
So... yea. Operation "Like a Leaf upon the Wind, watch me soar" is a go.
200m is plenty high enough to avoid pretty much anything Chu Song could do to us. 100m is probably fine.
200m is plenty high enough to avoid pretty much anything Chu Song could do to us. 100m is probably fine.
Filling out the ever expanding non-stealth menu...
[X] Turtle Fortress: Express Zhengui and work together to reinforce your position, stacking defenses and area-of-effect debuffs to make ourselves unassailable. If we can sustain an inviolable core, Chu Song will only weaken over time, letting us take her down at our leisure.
[X] Set up and Stick in
[X] Plan Untethered
I think it's kind of pointless to debate the optics. You can spin that kind of thinking any which way. The important thing to remember here are the words of insight provided by famous cultivating sage Vince Lombardi: Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.
[X] Turtle Fortress: Express Zhengui and work together to reinforce your position, stacking defenses and area-of-effect debuffs to make ourselves unassailable. If we can sustain an inviolable core, Chu Song will only weaken over time, letting us take her down at our leisure.
[X] Set up and Stick in
[X] Plan Untethered
I think it's kind of pointless to debate the optics. You can spin that kind of thinking any which way. The important thing to remember here are the words of insight provided by famous cultivating sage Vince Lombardi: Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.
Wiggin42
Wage Slave
[X] Plan Untethered
Now you're think with portals! Err... Three dimensional space. What I meant. I remember a D&D campaign in which I played an archer with Levitate and just climbed stupid high and sharpshot everyone. DM explicitly asked me to cut that shit out eventually.
This has the added bonus of showing of some Emerald Seas workmanship. Yeah, our home province can build 'I Win' buttons, no big deal.
Now you're think with portals! Err... Three dimensional space. What I meant. I remember a D&D campaign in which I played an archer with Levitate and just climbed stupid high and sharpshot everyone. DM explicitly asked me to cut that shit out eventually.
This has the added bonus of showing of some Emerald Seas workmanship. Yeah, our home province can build 'I Win' buttons, no big deal.
Yes, let's be the 5 th level wizard laughing at the futile flailings of the fighter.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Plan Untethered
First vote to really catch my eye. I've always liked the fact that yrs has Ling Qi tend to think for herself in fights so I appreciate Untethered's simplicity. Also that we'll clearly be using Cai gear to outmaneuver Cai's main detractor in the Outer Sect. Good show of loyalty from us, if not slightly mean in her issues with the Clan being perfectly valid.
Rewards for success are different from paying her daughter's way to victory. Even Renxiang's use "personal loyalty" would likely earn disapproval if it's implied to purely depend on station and I can't imagine much getting past Shenhua. This is likely even more relevant when considering the wide array of loyal cultivators in the province, as well as pride, I imagine the cutoff point will be Renxiang's cultivation level.
Plus we already know that Shenhua's personal attention will be drawn by Renxiang surrounding herself with people who surpass her. I expect a purposeful attempt would look worse though, at least if she's surpassed by her retainers it's a matter of them being impressive rather than a poor attempt at being sneaky on Renxiang's part.
First vote to really catch my eye. I've always liked the fact that yrs has Ling Qi tend to think for herself in fights so I appreciate Untethered's simplicity. Also that we'll clearly be using Cai gear to outmaneuver Cai's main detractor in the Outer Sect. Good show of loyalty from us, if not slightly mean in her issues with the Clan being perfectly valid.
There does have to be a limit though. Shenhua wants to test CRX, to have her prove herself worthy of investment, hanging on the coattails of her betters proves nothing and seems the sort of thing Shenhua wouldn't allow to continue.
Rewards for success are different from paying her daughter's way to victory. Even Renxiang's use "personal loyalty" would likely earn disapproval if it's implied to purely depend on station and I can't imagine much getting past Shenhua. This is likely even more relevant when considering the wide array of loyal cultivators in the province, as well as pride, I imagine the cutoff point will be Renxiang's cultivation level.
Plus we already know that Shenhua's personal attention will be drawn by Renxiang surrounding herself with people who surpass her. I expect a purposeful attempt would look worse though, at least if she's surpassed by her retainers it's a matter of them being impressive rather than a poor attempt at being sneaky on Renxiang's part.
- Pronouns
- They/It
[X] Plan Untethered
NaanContributor
Provider of delicious flatbread, and nothing else.
- Location
- Hawaii
Chu Song's already shown a ranged AoE Wind attack from our first battle, and I expect her to have an improved version equipped because she hates CRX and knows that the two of us are some of the few disciples who can fly. We don't know what her range limit is going to be, but I'll treat Ji Rong's lightning hadouken that he partially burned us with at the fortress as a reasonable benchmark.
We'll still have good projectile defense (though does her AoE Wind Slash count as a projectile?), and it'll negate all of her melee options, so it's still a good strategy, but I don't expect her to be helpless. Getting swatted out of the air like a mosquito if she gets a lucky shot in would be embarrassing.
[X] Plan Untethered
[X] Once More, Into the Shadows
We'll still have good projectile defense (though does her AoE Wind Slash count as a projectile?), and it'll negate all of her melee options, so it's still a good strategy, but I don't expect her to be helpless. Getting swatted out of the air like a mosquito if she gets a lucky shot in would be embarrassing.
[X] Plan Untethered
[X] Once More, Into the Shadows
but, like, our other defensive techs are still all better...
In the sense that she would know your general area, but the gowns ability doesn't follow you around like your mist does so it functions more like a smoke bomb than a roving darkness field.
- Location
- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
Meh just completely staying out of her reach is boring especially if she can't even threaten us from range.
This just seems too much like punching down to me. What's the point if neither of us can show off? At least the fight with Shen Hu had some actual tension to make it interesting for our audience.
This just seems too much like punching down to me. What's the point if neither of us can show off? At least the fight with Shen Hu had some actual tension to make it interesting for our audience.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Yes and no I think. There should be circumstantial bonus to gale shield pushing people away while they are jumping in the air, and it also acts as a secondary defensive layer, as they have to pass the Gale Shield test to get to us. In that sense, it's like Diapason.
It shouldn't be used before GCD/TRD though.
It doesn't stay completely out of her reach, we go back down when we are set up (unless we already won).
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Despite my best efforts and the revelations that Stealth isn't actually a bad idea, people hate the idea of stealthing even more.
- Location
- Not Telling
[x] Set up and Stick in
Stealth remains a bad idea though? It seemed proven pretty conclusively.
- Location
- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
Nope, naysayers just gonna naysay that's all.
Meh, we're stronger than her. It doesn't matter. If trying to be too clever fails, we'll still win.
[X] Once More, Into the Shadows
[x] Set up and Stick in
[X] Turtle Fortress: Express Zhengui and work together to reinforce your position, stacking defenses and area-of-effect debuffs to make ourselves unassailable. If we can sustain an inviolable core, Chu Song will only weaken over time, letting us take her down at our leisure.
[X] Once More, Into the Shadows
[x] Set up and Stick in
[X] Turtle Fortress: Express Zhengui and work together to reinforce your position, stacking defenses and area-of-effect debuffs to make ourselves unassailable. If we can sustain an inviolable core, Chu Song will only weaken over time, letting us take her down at our leisure.
- Location
- United States of America
Well, it's a bit of showmanship, marketing, and good tactics.
Like, our first concern is winning the match. Our second concern is making us look as good as possible, and then our third concern is making it entertaining for the audience. This isn't an exhibition match like the match between Duchess Cai and Bai Suzhen.
In that light, demonstrating that placing us in a neutral environment will not hinder our ability to ramp up to colossal proportions is a bit of good marketing. Demonstrating the futility of fighting us without specific skill sets is also demonstrates our capability of handling peer level opponents.
I mean, this is some of the best from the outer sect, and making the fight as trivial as possible through good tactics and utilizing the gains we made in the outer sect just makes us seem that much more potent of a combatant.
Nope, stealth remains a pretty wretched idea. It's not likely our stealth dice can consistently beat perception, when we need it to >90%, and it takes a major action to use besides. It is wrong and misleading to say that it's just naysaying.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
That, and we actually do dive down once Traveller's end is set up.
So it's not like we won't have an actual fight where we can show off.
It's also a tactic that doesn't mean anything to see for future rounds.
We aren't going to be able to use it against any of the monsters and it's quite questionable against ramp and energy blast man Ji Rong. If they overprepare for flight that's our gain.
We aren't going to be able to use it against any of the monsters and it's quite questionable against ramp and energy blast man Ji Rong. If they overprepare for flight that's our gain.